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| #81 - Posted 27 November 2009, 9:08 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597  | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: perlurdom previously said: Hey guys there is nothing wrong about showing / exclaiming / highlight my regional sentiment, it does not make of me a bad Dominican or traitor..I would kill anyone attempting against my country. But also we need to respect regional sentiment that every country has; and are those unique regions that enrich country's cultural mosaic. You can find regionalism everywhere...Texas in US; Cali, Colombia; Santiago de Cuba; Monterrey, NL in Mexico where people refer to capitalinos as "Chilangos"..."Mata un Chilango y harás patria". We need to learn to live with it and as a country we need pay special attention to those regions, as they normally are the richest and more productive of their respective countries. Well said. |
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| #82 - Posted 27 November 2009, 9:29 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Santiago de los Caballeros Join date: November 2009 Member #: 4018 Posts: 713 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: Sajomero previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! Migration from rural to urban areas is expected, especially in developing countries. Centralization is also to blame for that trend. I did not say Cibaenoo have a superiority complex, simply that if we were to talk about a complex it certainly would not be a inferiority complex. Don't take this so seriously, you're pretty much getting upset over nothing. I don't understand your point about the past Presidents. Leonel is from the capital (or Washington Heights in reality) and the rest were Cibaenos. If you're saying they were terrible presidents (most of those were) take into account ALL our Presidents and a large majority were from El Cibao. It really upset me that (some) amongs my people think this way. I for one don't put too much stock on what part of DR one is born, so long as they are Dominicans. And what i meant by writing the names of the Cibaeno president is that, if we have then in la capital, santiago would have them too if they were independent... in short, they would still be corrupt, and unwiselly mispending money! This nationalism is quite unnecessary and is putting us in a position to fight amongs ourselves... Carlos, You are among the few that doesn't care if others aren't from the capital. It gets boring after a while that the minute you arrive in the capital and they notice that you don't look, act, speak or dress like them, they start mocking a Cibaeno accent. The funny thing is, that these capitalenos will go to great lenghts to crack joke at our accent, yet they can barely speak correct Spanish themselves. Im at a point where I really don't want to deal with stupid ass capitalenos either here or in DR. The capitalenos have a big chip on their shoulders just because they live in the capital, eventhough most dont enjoy the basic necesities which abound in most of el Cibao. Its a real pitty that we get treated like that, so if any of us dislike the capital's inhabitants you really can't blame us, blame yourselves. good stement sajomero... QUE VIVA Ei CIBAO "yo soy primero cibaeño y despues dominicano" Pedro Manuel Hungria |
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| #83 - Posted 28 November 2009, 10:27 PM | |
 Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: Sajomero previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! Migration from rural to urban areas is expected, especially in developing countries. Centralization is also to blame for that trend. I did not say Cibaenoo have a superiority complex, simply that if we were to talk about a complex it certainly would not be a inferiority complex. Don't take this so seriously, you're pretty much getting upset over nothing. I don't understand your point about the past Presidents. Leonel is from the capital (or Washington Heights in reality) and the rest were Cibaenos. If you're saying they were terrible presidents (most of those were) take into account ALL our Presidents and a large majority were from El Cibao. It really upset me that (some) amongs my people think this way. I for one don't put too much stock on what part of DR one is born, so long as they are Dominicans. And what i meant by writing the names of the Cibaeno president is that, if we have then in la capital, santiago would have them too if they were independent... in short, they would still be corrupt, and unwiselly mispending money! This nationalism is quite unnecessary and is putting us in a position to fight amongs ourselves... Carlos, You are among the few that doesn't care if others aren't from the capital. It gets boring after a while that the minute you arrive in the capital and they notice that you don't look, act, speak or dress like them, they start mocking a Cibaeno accent. The funny thing is, that these capitalenos will go to great lenghts to crack joke at our accent, yet they can barely speak correct Spanish themselves. Im at a point where I really don't want to deal with stupid ass capitalenos either here or in DR. The capitalenos have a big chip on their shoulders just because they live in the capital, eventhough most dont enjoy the basic necesities which abound in most of el Cibao. Its a real pitty that we get treated like that, so if any of us dislike the capital's inhabitants you really can't blame us, blame yourselves. I understand what you mean, but we should not contemplate the division of the country over something so trivial... The cibaeno accent has roots in taino manner of speaking, educate a dumb capitaleno next time he comes up with some stupid remark, and he'll think twice before saying something like that again... |
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| #84 - Posted 28 November 2009, 10:29 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: deicibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: deicibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: deicibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! well most dominican presidents have not been to great but the few that i know that were the most honest and good presidents come from here, which are Antonio Guzman, Juan Bosh and horacio vasquez to me and to many other dominicans these presidents were very good now tell me all the good capitalenos presidents? Yes the most honest have been from el Cibao, but also the MOST CORRUPT... and i think the latter outnumbers the first... Please SHUT THE HELL UP and take your Haitian techniques of dividing us elsewhere. "hatian techniques of dividing us" are you kidding me, i'm totally against hatian illegal imigration or their desire to label us as an all black nation. better look around you, most people in the capital are just spanish speaking hatians.. ohh by the way i will post all i want is my opinion and if you get offended by it well sorry my friend.... How can you call yourself dominican when you are instigating this feud... Yo te conozco haitiano aunque tu vengas disfrazo! ja ja ja ja ja si sigue pensando que soy hatiano por que apuesto que tu te parces a un hatiano mientras que yo ja ja ja no tengo nada de hatiano soy uno de los que quieren que los hatianos se vallan de mi lindo pais pero tu seguro tienes primos hatianos como los otros capitalenos que muchos son simplementes hatianos que hablan el idioma espanol yesss there are lots of haitians in the capital... lots of jobs there too, else the haitians would be elsewhere... |
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| #85 - Posted 28 November 2009, 10:30 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: perlurdom previously said: Hey guys there is nothing wrong about showing / exclaiming / highlight my regional sentiment, it does not make of me a bad Dominican or traitor..I would kill anyone attempting against my country. But also we need to respect regional sentiment that every country has; and are those unique regions that enrich country's cultural mosaic. You can find regionalism everywhere...Texas in US; Cali, Colombia; Santiago de Cuba; Monterrey, NL in Mexico where people refer to capitalinos as "Chilangos"..."Mata un Chilango y harás patria". We need to learn to live with it and as a country we need pay special attention to those regions, as they normally are the richest and more productive of their respective countries. true true! |
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| #86 - Posted 28 November 2009, 10:30 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: perlurdom previously said: Hey guys there is nothing wrong about showing / exclaiming / highlight my regional sentiment, it does not make of me a bad Dominican or traitor..I would kill anyone attempting against my country. But also we need to respect regional sentiment that every country has; and are those unique regions that enrich country's cultural mosaic. You can find regionalism everywhere...Texas in US; Cali, Colombia; Santiago de Cuba; Monterrey, NL in Mexico where people refer to capitalinos as "Chilangos"..."Mata un Chilango y harás patria". We need to learn to live with it and as a country we need pay special attention to those regions, as they normally are the richest and more productive of their respective countries. true true! |
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| #87 - Posted 29 November 2009, 12:39 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santiago de los Caballeros Join date: November 2009 Member #: 4018 Posts: 713 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! Migration from rural to urban areas is expected, especially in developing countries. Centralization is also to blame for that trend. I did not say Cibaenoo have a superiority complex, simply that if we were to talk about a complex it certainly would not be a inferiority complex. Don't take this so seriously, you're pretty much getting upset over nothing. I don't understand your point about the past Presidents. Leonel is from the capital (or Washington Heights in reality) and the rest were Cibaenos. If you're saying they were terrible presidents (most of those were) take into account ALL our Presidents and a large majority were from El Cibao. It really upset me that (some) amongs my people think this way. I for one don't put too much stock on what part of DR one is born, so long as they are Dominicans. And what i meant by writing the names of the Cibaeno president is that, if we have then in la capital, santiago would have them too if they were independent... in short, they would still be corrupt, and unwiselly mispending money! This nationalism is quite unnecessary and is putting us in a position to fight amongs ourselves... Carlos, You are among the few that doesn't care if others aren't from the capital. It gets boring after a while that the minute you arrive in the capital and they notice that you don't look, act, speak or dress like them, they start mocking a Cibaeno accent. The funny thing is, that these capitalenos will go to great lenghts to crack joke at our accent, yet they can barely speak correct Spanish themselves. Im at a point where I really don't want to deal with stupid ass capitalenos either here or in DR. The capitalenos have a big chip on their shoulders just because they live in the capital, eventhough most dont enjoy the basic necesities which abound in most of el Cibao. Its a real pitty that we get treated like that, so if any of us dislike the capital's inhabitants you really can't blame us, blame yourselves. I understand what you mean, but we should not contemplate the division of the country over something so trivial... The cibaeno accent has roots in taino manner of speaking, educate a dumb capitaleno next time he comes up with some stupid remark, and he'll think twice before saying something like that again... Actually i think the ciabaeno dialect comes from the canary islands and the andalusia region in spain since so many people from these two places settle in the ciabo, anyway we still do have alot of taino words in our dialect.. QUE VIVA Ei CIBAO "yo soy primero cibaeño y despues dominicano" Pedro Manuel Hungria |
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| #88 - Posted 29 November 2009, 1:28 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: deicibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! Migration from rural to urban areas is expected, especially in developing countries. Centralization is also to blame for that trend. I did not say Cibaenoo have a superiority complex, simply that if we were to talk about a complex it certainly would not be a inferiority complex. Don't take this so seriously, you're pretty much getting upset over nothing. I don't understand your point about the past Presidents. Leonel is from the capital (or Washington Heights in reality) and the rest were Cibaenos. If you're saying they were terrible presidents (most of those were) take into account ALL our Presidents and a large majority were from El Cibao. It really upset me that (some) amongs my people think this way. I for one don't put too much stock on what part of DR one is born, so long as they are Dominicans. And what i meant by writing the names of the Cibaeno president is that, if we have then in la capital, santiago would have them too if they were independent... in short, they would still be corrupt, and unwiselly mispending money! This nationalism is quite unnecessary and is putting us in a position to fight amongs ourselves... Carlos, You are among the few that doesn't care if others aren't from the capital. It gets boring after a while that the minute you arrive in the capital and they notice that you don't look, act, speak or dress like them, they start mocking a Cibaeno accent. The funny thing is, that these capitalenos will go to great lenghts to crack joke at our accent, yet they can barely speak correct Spanish themselves. Im at a point where I really don't want to deal with stupid ass capitalenos either here or in DR. The capitalenos have a big chip on their shoulders just because they live in the capital, eventhough most dont enjoy the basic necesities which abound in most of el Cibao. Its a real pitty that we get treated like that, so if any of us dislike the capital's inhabitants you really can't blame us, blame yourselves. I understand what you mean, but we should not contemplate the division of the country over something so trivial... The cibaeno accent has roots in taino manner of speaking, educate a dumb capitaleno next time he comes up with some stupid remark, and he'll think twice before saying something like that again... Actually i think the ciabaeno dialect comes from the canary islands and the andalusia region in spain since so many people from these two places settle in the ciabo, anyway we still do have alot of taino words in our dialect.. This reason for our dialect is what makes the most sense to me, especially since Jibaro accents used to have it and they were mainly Canarians. |
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| #89 - Posted 29 November 2009, 7:22 AM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: deicibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: May i remind the separatist in this forum that La Capital had like 10,000 inhabitant a few decades ago, now it has nearly 2 Million Plus... Where do you presume these people came from... EL CIBAO... Like all of my family... father from La Vega, Mother from Cotui.....And as to Cibaeno superiority complex over Capitalenos JAJJAAJJAJAJAJJAAJJAJ LMAO. Please remind me Where was balaguer born and Leonel, Jorge blanco, Antonio Guzman, Hipolito. Your hypothesis that el Cibao would be better managed if it were independent is proven false by the obvious answer to the question in bold above.... HAVE A NICE DAY Ps those cibaeno que piensan asi, son muy ignorantes! Migration from rural to urban areas is expected, especially in developing countries. Centralization is also to blame for that trend. I did not say Cibaenoo have a superiority complex, simply that if we were to talk about a complex it certainly would not be a inferiority complex. Don't take this so seriously, you're pretty much getting upset over nothing. I don't understand your point about the past Presidents. Leonel is from the capital (or Washington Heights in reality) and the rest were Cibaenos. If you're saying they were terrible presidents (most of those were) take into account ALL our Presidents and a large majority were from El Cibao. It really upset me that (some) amongs my people think this way. I for one don't put too much stock on what part of DR one is born, so long as they are Dominicans. And what i meant by writing the names of the Cibaeno president is that, if we have then in la capital, santiago would have them too if they were independent... in short, they would still be corrupt, and unwiselly mispending money! This nationalism is quite unnecessary and is putting us in a position to fight amongs ourselves... Carlos, You are among the few that doesn't care if others aren't from the capital. It gets boring after a while that the minute you arrive in the capital and they notice that you don't look, act, speak or dress like them, they start mocking a Cibaeno accent. The funny thing is, that these capitalenos will go to great lenghts to crack joke at our accent, yet they can barely speak correct Spanish themselves. Im at a point where I really don't want to deal with stupid ass capitalenos either here or in DR. The capitalenos have a big chip on their shoulders just because they live in the capital, eventhough most dont enjoy the basic necesities which abound in most of el Cibao. Its a real pitty that we get treated like that, so if any of us dislike the capital's inhabitants you really can't blame us, blame yourselves. I understand what you mean, but we should not contemplate the division of the country over something so trivial... The cibaeno accent has roots in taino manner of speaking, educate a dumb capitaleno next time he comes up with some stupid remark, and he'll think twice before saying something like that again... Actually i think the ciabaeno dialect comes from the canary islands and the andalusia region in spain since so many people from these two places settle in the ciabo, anyway we still do have alot of taino words in our dialect.. This reason for our dialect is what makes the most sense to me, especially since Jibaro accents used to have it and they were mainly Canarians. well i have heard different, that it was our taino heritage that puts la "i" en donde no va, still i am not familiar with the topic so i can't disagree! |
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| #90 - Posted 15 December 2009, 4:38 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4182 Posts: 14 | RE: the dominican republic, cuba, puerto rico, and venezuela should become one country! If i am not mistaken, Juan P. Duarte, Jose Marti, and Maria Eugenio de Hostos, Ramon Bentances pitch the idea to form "La Confederation Antillana" their has been several books that commented on this confederation. Also you have to consider that the Caribbean islands of Cuba, Dominican republic, and Puerto Rico were inhabited by Tainos/Arawaks indians. Also their is a lot of connection between this 3 island nations people tend to forget Duartes mother is Puerto Rican, and also Cuban, Dominican Republic, and Puerto Rico were suppose to simultaneously fend of the Spaniards to form the federation. |
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