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| #71 - Posted 25 September 2009, 2:46 PM | |
 Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4098  | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: I think not cibby  Can you now stop this crazy vendetta against the Cubans  By giving them credit for the guayabera I'm somehow waging a "vendetta agaisnt the Cubans"?? Anyway who knows anything about the guayaberas origin out there? Rizzo claims Philipine origin while I'm laborong under the assumption that it originated in Cuba? Who's correct or are we both wrong? (and yes, I can google it but that wouldn't be much fun  )Enrico is correct. The shirt was developed in the Phillipines, and brought by the Spanish galleons to Cuba. But Cubans christened the name "Guayabera" that it is called nowadays.  I don't think anyone of us can be proven correct...I've spent the last twenty some odd minutes reading about the origin of the guayabera and it boils down to one of three places...the yucatan peninsula, the phillipines, and cuba but I couldn't find anything definitive that nailed it down to a specific country. It seems that its origin has been lost to history. However, it does bare a STRONG resemblance to the phillipine Barong Tagalog, which is definitely older than the guayabera proper so, in my mind at least, it gives the phillipine origin more weight. BTW I love guayaberas...they look very elegant on me Edited on 9/25/2009 2:47 PM by cibaeño75. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #72 - Posted 25 September 2009, 2:51 PM | |
 Location: United States, Quisqueya La Bella Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 5718 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: I think not cibby Can you now stop this crazy vendetta against the Cubans By giving them credit for the guayabera I'm somehow waging a "vendetta agaisnt the Cubans"?? Anyway who knows anything about the guayaberas origin out there? Rizzo claims Philipine origin while I'm laborong under the assumption that it originated in Cuba? Who's correct or are we both wrong? (and yes, I can google it but that wouldn't be much fun )Enrico is correct. The shirt was developed in the Phillipines, and brought by the Spanish galleons to Cuba. But Cubans christened the name "Guayabera" that it is called nowadays. I don't think anyone of us can be proven correct...I've spent the last twenty some odd minutes reading about the origin of the guayabera and it boils down to one of three places...the yucatan peninsula, the phillipines, and cuba but I couldn't find anything definitive that nailed it down to a specific country. It seems that its origin has been lost to history. However, it does bare a STRONG resemblance to the phillipine Barong Tagalog, which is definitely older than the guayabera proper so, in my mind at least, it gives the phillipine origin more weight. BTW I love guayaberas...they look very elegant on me If we were to wear dress Guayaberas instead of the more formal "European coat and tie" just think of all the money we would save in air conditioning, detergent, power bills, and so forth. No kidding. In Trinidad for example, high level ministers dress in mostly blue color, short sleeved, Guayaberas. (Not white).  "United by purpose, bound by honor", La Hermandad. |
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| #73 - Posted 25 September 2009, 3:01 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4098 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: I think not cibby Can you now stop this crazy vendetta against the Cubans By giving them credit for the guayabera I'm somehow waging a "vendetta agaisnt the Cubans"?? Anyway who knows anything about the guayaberas origin out there? Rizzo claims Philipine origin while I'm laborong under the assumption that it originated in Cuba? Who's correct or are we both wrong? (and yes, I can google it but that wouldn't be much fun )Enrico is correct. The shirt was developed in the Phillipines, and brought by the Spanish galleons to Cuba. But Cubans christened the name "Guayabera" that it is called nowadays. I don't think anyone of us can be proven correct...I've spent the last twenty some odd minutes reading about the origin of the guayabera and it boils down to one of three places...the yucatan peninsula, the phillipines, and cuba but I couldn't find anything definitive that nailed it down to a specific country. It seems that its origin has been lost to history. However, it does bare a STRONG resemblance to the phillipine Barong Tagalog, which is definitely older than the guayabera proper so, in my mind at least, it gives the phillipine origin more weight. BTW I love guayaberas...they look very elegant on me If we were to wear dress Guayaberas instead of the more formal "European coat and tie" just think of all the money we would save in air conditioning, detergent, power bills, and so forth. No kidding. In Trinidad for example, high level ministers dress in mostly blue color, short sleeved, Guayaberas. (Not white). Oh the guayabera makes so much sense in the climates where we're from...legend has it that Trujillo despised the shirt and heavily chastised on of his subbordinate ministers when Trujillo saw him wearing one in public. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #74 - Posted 25 September 2009, 3:05 PM | |
 Location: Puerto Rico, Oso Blanco Rio Piedras Join date: September 2009 Member #: 3578 Posts: 672 |  RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights BeginHe was probably anti Cuban as well cibby You are entering the Ultra Spin Zone... |
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| #75 - Posted 25 September 2009, 3:08 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4098 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: EnricoRizzo previously said: He was probably anti Cuban as well cibby Oddly enough his paternal grandfather (Jose Trujillo Monagas) settled in Cuba, became Havana's chief of police, and is the ancestor of many of the Trujillos on that island where it is a much more common last name than it is in DR (Besides THE Trujillos themselves I've never come across another Dominican with the last name or even heard of one). Edited on 9/25/2009 3:09 PM by cibaeño75. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #76 - Posted 25 September 2009, 3:52 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4955 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: HateroPardo previously said: Are Filipinos technically Hispanic? Actually, they would be mexicans, cuz' during the colonization phase on those islands, the majority of the conquistadores were of Nueva España (mexican) stock, and afterwards, the islands were an administrative dependency of that viceroyalty. Phillipines would only experience direct spanish control after the latin american countries cut off their political ties with the mother country. Edited on 9/25/2009 3:58 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #77 - Posted 25 September 2009, 4:06 PM | |
 Location: United States, Brooklyn, NY Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3511 Posts: 240 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin I love Guayaberas, I'm young only twenty three but I love the look. Even here in NYC I wear them during the spring and summer. I also like my cigars from time to time, I love being at roof top lounges in the city with my guayabera, my romeo y julieta and my rum/bourbon (brugal is hard to find). Thats the life. My friends hate on me cuz I wear them, but I tell them they don't know anything about style, because guayaberas are it. Edited on 9/25/2009 4:07 PM by HiHater. Formerly Estrella. |
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| #78 - Posted 25 September 2009, 4:53 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2214 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: HiHater previously said: I love Guayaberas, I'm young only twenty three but I love the look. Even here in NYC I wear them during the spring and summer. I also like my cigars from time to time, I love being at roof top lounges in the city with my guayabera, my romeo y julieta and my rum/bourbon (brugal is hard to find). Thats the life. My friends hate on me cuz I wear them, but I tell them they don't know anything about style, because guayaberas are it. I have an easy time finding Brugal up here in Angloville, I figured NYC was easier. Only difference is up here it costs an arm and a leg because it's "exotic". I had to pick one up recently to refill la mama juana. |
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| #79 - Posted 25 September 2009, 4:57 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2214 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin So people seem to dig these shirts, should I get some Guayaberas for my DR trip this December? |
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| #80 - Posted 25 September 2009, 4:58 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn, NY Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3511 Posts: 240 | RE: The National Museum of the American Latino ----Let the Fist Fights Begin Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Quote: HiHater previously said: I love Guayaberas, I'm young only twenty three but I love the look. Even here in NYC I wear them during the spring and summer. I also like my cigars from time to time, I love being at roof top lounges in the city with my guayabera, my romeo y julieta and my rum/bourbon (brugal is hard to find). Thats the life. My friends hate on me cuz I wear them, but I tell them they don't know anything about style, because guayaberas are it. I have an easy time finding Brugal up here in Angloville, I figured NYC was easier. Only difference is up here it costs an arm and a leg because it's "exotic". I had to pick one up recently to refill la mama juana. Well it depends were you go, if your in Wash Heights or in Corona, Queens yeah you can get it. But in these dique trendy spots like LES, Meat-Packing District, SOHO, Tribeca, its as scarce as water in the desert. But there is also LQ formerly Latin Quaters and that is on Lexington and 48th street, in the heart of midtown and they do serve brugal. So overall easy to find but when I go out with the blanquitos hard. Formerly Estrella. |
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