| #1 - Posted 2 October 2009, 2:27 PM | |
Location: Tanzania, on the river to lake Taganyika with Kate Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3707 Posts: 78 | By EDDIE GARCIA Posted: 2:49 AM, September 28, 2009 It sometimes seems like Congress thinks Puerto Rico is a Never-Never Land: No matter how many times the island’s people vote to keep their identity as a separate nation affiliated with the United States, it’s never enough. Since 1967, Puerto Ricans have voted three times against becoming a US state and in favor of maintaining their status as an independent commonwealth in association with America. The last time was 11 years ago. But now a bill moving in Congress would have Puerto Ricans vote on the issue of statehood yet again. And this time, the process is rigged to favor statehood.The bill could come up for a floor vote in the House any week now; it’s widely expected to pass. On its face, HR 2499 calls for a nonbinding expression by Puerto Rican voters on the political status of their island. Yet, as Puerto Rican Sen. Jose Hernandez- Mayoral of Puerto Rico’s Popular Democratic Party says, “Behind this innocuous bill lies a fully thoughtout assault on Congress to designate the island the 51st state.The bill creates a two-stage plebiscite. Stage One would be a yes-or-no vote on whether to maintain the “current political status.” The clear hope is that those favoring full independence — which normally draws at most 5 percent of the vote — will combine with those favoring statehood, and outpoll those who want to remain a commonwealth. If State One passes, we’d move to Stage Two — a second vote in which Puerto Ricans would have only two choices: statehood or full independence. As Hernandez-Mayoral puts it, “With the commonwealth option out of the ballot, statehood is finally, albeit crookedly, assured a victory.”<p>This electoral sleight-of-hand could easily result in a minority of Puerto Rican voters producing a false landslide vote for statehood. Although billed as “non-binding,” the referendum would serve as a pretext for pushing through statehood against the true wishes of the Puerto Rican people.A fast track to statehood is clearly just what the measure’s proponents have in mind. Puerto Rico’s pro-statehood delegate to Congress wrote the bill.And his party’s 2008 platform declares that after a pro-statehood vote the party will explore all avenues, including a Tennessee strategy, to force Congress into admitting Puerto Rico as a state.What’s a “Tennessee strategy”? After the 1795 Census found that a majority of the then-time territory’s population favored statehood, the territorial governor convened a constitutional convention wherein delegates “converted” the territory into a state — and then lobbied for admission to the Union by sending “elected” senators and representatives to stand in the hallways of Congress demanding their seats. Congress soon caved in and admitted Tennessee as a state.Despite its unfairness, the bill enjoys wide bipartisan support. The General Accounting Office says half of Puerto Ricans would qualify for food stamps and federal assistance. So Democrats are drawn to the prospect of a constituency likely to elect more Democrats to Congress. Many Republicans are eager to sign on to the measure to show that they’re “pro-Hispanic.” If Spanish-speaking Puerto Rico becomes a state, it would also deal a major blow to English as the common language of the United It sometimes seems like Congress thinks Puerto Rico is a Never-Never Land: No matter how many times the island’s people vote to keep their identity as a separate nation affiliated with the United States, it’s never enough. Since 1967, Puerto Ricans have voted three times against becoming a US state and in favor of maintaining their status as an independent commonwealth in association with America. The last time was 11 years ago. But now a bill moving in Congress would have Puerto Ricans vote on the issue of statehood yet again. And this time, the process is rigged to favor statehood. The bill could come up for a floor vote in the House any week now; it’s widely expected to pass. On its face, HR 2499 calls for a nonbinding expression by Puerto Rican voters on the political status of their island. Yet, as Puerto Rican Sen. Jose Hernandez- Mayoral of Puerto Rico’s Popular Democratic Party says, “Behind this innocuous bill lies a fully thoughtout assault on Congress to designate the island the 51st state.” The bill creates a two-stage plebiscite. Stage One would be a yes-or-no vote on whether to maintain the “current political status.” The clear hope is that those favoring full independence — which normally draws at most 5 percent of the vote — will combine with those favoring statehood, and outpoll those who want to remain a commonwealth. If State One passes, we’d move to Stage Two — a second vote in which Puerto Ricans would have only two choices: statehood or full independence. As Hernandez-Mayoral puts it, “With the commonwealth option out of the ballot, statehood is finally, albeit crookedly, assured a victory.” This electoral sleight-of-hand could easily result in a minority of Puerto Rican voters producing a false landslide vote for statehood. Although billed as “non-binding,” the referendum would serve as a pretext for pushing through statehood against the true wishes of the Puerto Rican people. A fast track to statehood is clearly just what the measure’s proponents have in mind. Puerto Rico’s pro-statehood delegate to Congress wrote the bill. And his party’s 2008 platform declares that after a pro-statehood vote the party will explore all avenues, including a Tennessee strategy, to force Congress into admitting Puerto Rico as a state. What’s a “Tennessee strategy”? After the 1795 Census found that a majority of the then-time territory’s population favored statehood, the territorial governor convened a constitutional convention wherein delegates “converted” the territory into a state — and then lobbied for admission to the Union by sending “elected” senators and representatives to stand in the hallways of Congress demanding their seats. Congress soon caved in and admitted Tennessee as a state. Despite its unfairness, the bill enjoys wide bipartisan support. The General Accounting Office says half of Puerto Ricans would qualify for food stamps and federal assistance. So Democrats are drawn to the prospect of a constituency likely to elect more Democrats to Congress. Many Republicans are eager to sign on to the measure to show that they’re “pro-Hispanic.” If Spanish-speaking Puerto Rico becomes a state, it would also deal a major blow to English as the common language of the United States. Puerto Ricans have fought bravely defending freedom as members of the US armed forces, and have made great contributions to the United States while preserving their independent commonwealth status. They deserve better treatment. So do the rest of us. Eddie Garcia is a member of the National Advisory Board of ProEnglish (proenglish.org). rollin on the river with Rosie |
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| #2 - Posted 2 October 2009, 2:40 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Rigging the route to a 51st state By EDDIE GARCIA Last Updated: 10:16 AM, September 28, 2009 Posted: 2:49 AM, September 28, 2009 It sometimes seems like Congress thinks Puerto Rico is a Never-Never Land: No matter how many times the island’s people vote to keep their identity as a separate nation affiliated with the United States, it’s never enough. Since 1967, Puerto Ricans have voted three times against becoming a US state and in favor of maintaining their status as an independent commonwealth in association with America. The last time was 11 years ago. But now a bill moving in Congress would have Puerto Ricans vote on the issue of statehood yet again. And this time, the process is rigged to favor statehood. The bill could come up for a floor vote in the House any week now; it’s widely expected to pass. On its face, HR 2499 calls for a nonbinding expression by Puerto Rican voters on the political status of their island. Yet, as Puerto Rican Sen. Jose Hernandez- Mayoral of Puerto Rico’s Popular Democratic Party says, “Behind this innocuous bill lies a fully thoughtout assault on Congress to designate the island the 51st state.” The bill creates a two-stage plebiscite. Stage One would be a yes-or-no vote on whether to maintain the “current political status.” The clear hope is that those favoring full independence — which normally draws at most 5 percent of the vote — will combine with those favoring statehood, and outpoll those who want to remain a commonwealth. If State One passes, we’d move to Stage Two — a second vote in which Puerto Ricans would have only two choices: statehood or full independence. As Hernandez-Mayoral puts it, “With the commonwealth option out of the ballot, statehood is finally, albeit crookedly, assured a victory.” This electoral sleight-of-hand could easily result in a minority of Puerto Rican voters producing a false landslide vote for statehood. Although billed as “non-binding,” the referendum would serve as a pretext for pushing through statehood against the true wishes of the Puerto Rican people. A fast track to statehood is clearly just what the measure’s proponents have in mind. Puerto Rico’s pro-statehood delegate to Congress wrote the bill. And his party’s 2008 platform declares that after a pro-statehood vote the party will explore all avenues, including a Tennessee strategy, to force Congress into admitting Puerto Rico as a state. What’s a “Tennessee strategy”? After the 1795 Census found that a majority of the then-time territory’s population favored statehood, the territorial governor convened a constitutional convention wherein delegates “converted” the territory into a state — and then lobbied for admission to the Union by sending “elected” senators and representatives to stand in the hallways of Congress demanding their seats. Congress soon caved in and admitted Tennessee as a state. Despite its unfairness, the bill enjoys wide bipartisan support. The General Accounting Office says half of Puerto Ricans would qualify for food stamps and federal assistance. So Democrats are drawn to the prospect of a constituency likely to elect more Democrats to Congress. Many Republicans are eager to sign on to the measure to show that they’re “pro-Hispanic.” If Spanish-speaking Puerto Rico becomes a state, it would also deal a major blow to English as the common language of the United States. Puerto Ricans have fought bravely defending freedom as members of the US armed forces, and have made great contributions to the United States while preserving their independent commonwealth status. They deserve better treatment. So do the rest of us. Eddie Garcia is a member of the National Advisory Board of ProEnglish (proenglish.org). "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #3 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:17 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Had to post the op-ed with its correct title. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #4 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:25 PM | |
Location: Tanzania, on the river to lake Taganyika with Kate Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3707 Posts: 78 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies this time it flies rollin on the river with Rosie |
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| #5 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:27 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Quote: charlieallnut previously said: this time it flies It might...because of rigging, as the author of the op-ed that you yourself posted pointed out. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #6 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:41 PM | |
Location: Tanzania, on the river to lake Taganyika with Kate Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3707 Posts: 78 | Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: charlieallnut previously said: this time it flies It might...because of rigging, as the author of the op-ed that you yourself posted pointed out. It will happen cibby and I will be so happy rollin on the river with Rosie |
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| #7 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:47 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Quote: charlieallnut previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: charlieallnut previously said: this time it flies It might...because of rigging, as the author of the op-ed that you yourself posted pointed out. It will happen cibby and I will be so happy Why would you be happy? Do you have some vested interest in this? Cibby might not by Bori's and Gooms are the same to this guy. |
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| #8 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:53 PM | |
Location: Tanzania, on the river to lake Taganyika with Kate Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3707 Posts: 78 | yes I love Puerto Rico my first daughter was born there and she married a Cuban and lives in Grigolandia rollin on the river with Rosie |
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| #9 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:54 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 5911 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Quote: charlieallnut previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: charlieallnut previously said: this time it flies It might...because of rigging, as the author of the op-ed that you yourself posted pointed out. It will happen cibby and I will be so happy If you only knew how much love I have for Puerto Rico you would never make such comments. "If you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill |
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| #10 - Posted 2 October 2009, 3:55 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 2597 | RE: New Referendum on Puerto Rican Statehood ----This Time it Flies Quote: charlieallnut previously said: yes I love Puerto Rico my first daughter was born there and she married a Cuban and lives in Grigolandia That's a Hispanic tour de Americas. I don't think I care about the state of PR. Growing up I always wanted them dropped from commonwealth status but at this point it matters little. |
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