| #11 - Posted 7 October 2009, 9:58 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: So? What is the problem? What kind of question is that? Shouldn't the spouse/children be the ones to receive the funds from a life insurance policy taken out on someone?? But of course, someone who is selfish and greedy wouldn't care about something like that! Ah, you get what you pay for! The family PAID ZIP, NADA, NOTHING in terms of premiums, so they get NOTHING. That is FAIR except in a welfare world. The company paid the premiums so they get the payout. Get it amigo? Take MJ - the company insured the tour, they get the money, not MJ. Did you not hear the part of how, except for banks, it's done in secrecy? Did you not also hear how companies have taken a program designed to protect their losing "crucial" executives to a whole new low by finding loopholes to insure the average joe in the company, all without their knowledge? Sometimes I wonder where it is people recieve reality's sounds from. In your case it certainly cannot be the ears. You do not understand the basic principle - the comapny got what it paid for, the family got what it paid for. That is fair. Period. The problmeis lefties never understand this - as they, poor souls, believe in ENTITLEMENT, where people are given what they have not paid for or earned, they will never get this basic principle of fairness. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #12 - Posted 7 October 2009, 10:02 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: So? What is the problem? What kind of question is that? Shouldn't the spouse/children be the ones to receive the funds from a life insurance policy taken out on someone?? But of course, someone who is selfish and greedy wouldn't care about something like that! Ah, you get what you pay for! The family PAID ZIP, NADA, NOTHING in terms of premiums, so they get NOTHING. That is FAIR except in a welfare world. The company paid the premiums so they get the payout. Get it amigo? Take MJ - the company insured the tour, they get the money, not MJ. Did you not hear the part of how, except for banks, it's done in secrecy? Did you not also hear how companies have taken a program designed to protect their losing "crucial" executives to a whole new low by finding loopholes to insure the average joe in the company, all without their knowledge? Sometimes I wonder where it is people recieve reality's sounds from. In your case it certainly cannot be the ears. You do not understand the basic principle - the comapny got what it paid for, the family got what it paid for. That is fair. Period. The problmeis lefties never understand this - as they, poor souls, believe in ENTITLEMENT, where people are given what they have not paid for or earned, they will never get this basic principle of fairness. Using my person, my identity, against my knowledge and for your personal benefit is fair? It must be that your concept of what fair is is totally at odds with my understanding of the word and its meaning. Oh, and I do understand the "basic principle". It's called greed. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #13 - Posted 7 October 2009, 11:22 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2009 Member #: 1932 Posts: 1186 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: You do not understand the basic principle - the comapny got what it paid for, the family got what it paid for. That is fair. Period. The problmeis lefties never understand this - as they, poor souls, believe in ENTITLEMENT, where people are given what they have not paid for or earned, they will never get this basic principle of fairness. This reasoning coming from a man of the cloth is troubling!!! MJ's tour was a business, and that is normal insurance coverage, but for a Corporation to benefit from from an employees death, and to topo it off , without the employees consent, is even more troubling .... isnt that what the Mafia does when they lend you money??? Think about this you secret Mephistopheles worshipper, what happens when the company misses budget big time, do they put a hit on you???? Cant you see the wrong in that !??!?!??!?! |
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| #14 - Posted 7 October 2009, 1:41 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 3287 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: JEM237 previously said: As always, you missed the point. These companies did this without the consent of the individuals they chose to insure, the very least they should do is give at least a portion to the deceased person's spouse and/or children! Now that's FAIR in welfare and/or greedy world. Get it "amigo"?? MJ gave his consent and was well aware that a life insurance policy was taken out on him...is that the best example that you can provide? No! A company invest money in an employee. Training, healthcare, benefits. i see no problem with them protecting their financial investment. |
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| #15 - Posted 7 October 2009, 3:03 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: As always, you missed the point. These companies did this without the consent of the individuals they chose to insure, the very least they should do is give at least a portion to the deceased person's spouse and/or children! Now that's FAIR in welfare and/or greedy world. Get it "amigo"?? MJ gave his consent and was well aware that a life insurance policy was taken out on him...is that the best example that you can provide? No! A company invest money in an employee. Training, healthcare, benefits. i see no problem with them protecting their financial investment. Something akin to that argument was used in the past as a justification for slavery. People aren't a commodity. Edited on 10/7/2009 3:52 PM by cibaeño75. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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| #16 - Posted 7 October 2009, 3:48 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 4448 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: So? What is the problem? What kind of question is that? Shouldn't the spouse/children be the ones to receive the funds from a life insurance policy taken out on someone?? But of course, someone who is selfish and greedy wouldn't care about something like that! Ah, you get what you pay for! The family PAID ZIP, NADA, NOTHING in terms of premiums, so they get NOTHING. That is FAIR except in a welfare world. The company paid the premiums so they get the payout. Get it amigo? Take MJ - the company insured the tour, they get the money, not MJ. Did you not hear the part of how, except for banks, it's done in secrecy? Did you not also hear how companies have taken a program designed to protect their losing "crucial" executives to a whole new low by finding loopholes to insure the average joe in the company, all without their knowledge? Sometimes I wonder where it is people recieve reality's sounds from. In your case it certainly cannot be the ears. A company in trouble packs its employees in an executive jet - and the jet crashes - saves teh company. Who caused the crash - a third party with a one million dollar payoff. America is stupid to think of corrupt schemes like this and although I dislike Moore all thanks for exposing yet another US corrupt scheme, S. |
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| #17 - Posted 7 October 2009, 4:16 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: As always, you missed the point. These companies did this without the consent of the individuals they chose to insure, the very least they should do is give at least a portion to the deceased person's spouse and/or children! Now that's FAIR in welfare and/or greedy world. Get it "amigo"?? MJ gave his consent and was well aware that a life insurance policy was taken out on him...is that the best example that you can provide? No! A company invest money in an employee. Training, healthcare, benefits. i see no problem with them protecting their financial investment. Something akin to that argument was used in the past as a justification for slavery. People aren't a commodity. Life insurance = slavery? BTW, you do know it took many blacks 2 generations to recover from the end of slavery - you might want to watch Color Purple William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #18 - Posted 7 October 2009, 4:18 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: Glimmertwin previously said: Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: You do not understand the basic principle - the comapny got what it paid for, the family got what it paid for. That is fair. Period. The problmeis lefties never understand this - as they, poor souls, believe in ENTITLEMENT, where people are given what they have not paid for or earned, they will never get this basic principle of fairness. This reasoning coming from a man of the cloth is troubling!!! MJ's tour was a business, and that is normal insurance coverage, but for a Corporation to benefit from from an employees death, and to topo it off , without the employees consent, is even more troubling .... isnt that what the Mafia does when they lend you money??? Think about this you secret Mephistopheles worshipper, what happens when the company misses budget big time, do they put a hit on you???? Cant you see the wrong in that !??!?!??!?! Mafia Loansharking = Life Insurance? William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #19 - Posted 7 October 2009, 4:33 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 3287 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Something akin to that argument was used in the past as a justification for slavery. People aren't a commodity. Now you are really reaching for that race card huh? |
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| #20 - Posted 8 October 2009, 9:41 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 4107 | RE: "We Were Stunned When We Saw This in Michael Moore's Latest Film" — Claire Shipman of ABC News Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: JEM237 previously said: As always, you missed the point. These companies did this without the consent of the individuals they chose to insure, the very least they should do is give at least a portion to the deceased person's spouse and/or children! Now that's FAIR in welfare and/or greedy world. Get it "amigo"?? MJ gave his consent and was well aware that a life insurance policy was taken out on him...is that the best example that you can provide? No! A company invest money in an employee. Training, healthcare, benefits. i see no problem with them protecting their financial investment. Something akin to that argument was used in the past as a justification for slavery. People aren't a commodity. Life insurance = slavery? BTW, you do know it took many blacks 2 generations to recover from the end of slavery - you might want to watch Color Purple Well, Mr. C's argument is that since a company pays for this then to hell if the employee knows or not, the company has rights on the fact that they invested, period. If you read some of the arguments made for slavery in the antebellum South one would come across things like... we (slavers) pay for their medical bills, we pay for their food, baptisms, weddings, etc...trained them to be blacksmiths, etc,,... It's not like the slaves are not getting anything out of it! After all, we're "investing" in them! A similiar argument in the sense that it stems from a mindframe that human beings are commodities and to be treated as such, independent of how the individual might feel because someone else made an "investment". Edited on 10/8/2009 2:24 PM by cibaeño75. "Don't ask me who's influenced me. A lion is made up of the lambs he's digested, and I've been reading all my life."-Charles de Gaulle |
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