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vacanos's fairy tale
Once upon a time DR used to be one of the safest places and most stable economy in all Latin America. Our Glorious pesos equal the same mighty Dollar for so many years. Our border was secured by soldier sent there sometime as punishment and not a way to get richer. So the Haitians’ problem were kept in check from all front and no way to destroy our country. Dominicans working the construction and agriculture jobs were getting fair pay. The thugs for the most part kept in check with mano dura against them by the govt. You see back them we had values and everybody knew their limit. Those were the time when my father a regular Joe could afford to buy a brand new car out of the dealer. These were the time When the Gasoline used to cost 39 cent a gallon. My father used to leave less than three pesos Dominican on top of the table for my mom to cook.
The year was 1978 and Balaguer was the president. People were tired of the same Govt for so long at this time 12 years and Balaguer reluctantly at first finally gave the presidency to Antonio Guzman of the PRD party PARA NUESTRA DESGRACIA.

This fairy tale ended in the opposite direction as your usual fairy tale. It ended for the worse.

Enter the scene the PRD party the same party who raised hell against the Government for so many years. Let me give you a brief history of this party. This once lefty organization composed mainly of lefty/commies/radical. The party head was no other than Juan Bosch. They pushed aside Bosch in late 73 they were some friction within the party after our commie Caamano invaded DR from Cuba that same year and received no support from anybody. Bosch claimed he left the PRD on his own to create another party the PLD. This new party owns foundation the PLD was of a MARXIST agenda in which their own curriculum/journal VALGUARDIA DEL PUEBLO helped organize the legendary Cuban newspaper Gamma.


Well it seen all those years the PRD was seating in the minority they were studying, Ulises Heaureaux’s playbook how to get back at the country who kept them in the minority for so long. And pay the country did. From 1978 to 1986 they completely sacked all our country’s resources. This PRD party left the country in bankruptcy.
Our once mighty pesos tumble to the ground by all the excesses and corruption. The Gas price went to the roof. Antonio Guzman all the corruption around him starting with his own daughter got so enormous he killed himself and put himself out of misery. Nevertheless Jorge Blanco beat him to the punch during his term in office he took everything what was left from the previous administration. He took so many loans from the FMI and left the country with no money to pay back inflation went to the roof. The people had enough and went to the streets to change the situation or be killed. DR went into a mini civil war and to prevent an all out civil war Jorge Blanco sent the Army to deal with the population killing many Dominicans way more than Balaguer ever did against our commies. (Jorge Blanco fled the country was repatriated from Venezuela deservedly was convicted on corruption and when Hipolito won the presidency in 2000 the PRD overturned that conviction go figure)


Now who did the people of the Dominican Republic relied on after the chaos and uncertainty in 86?
Was it the lefty "GREAT LEADER" Juan Bosch to the rescue? NO try again

Hint: a blind broken down 80 year old
Edited on 10/13/2009 3:48 PM by vacanos.
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Once upon a time DR used to be one of the safest places and most stable economy in all Latin America. Our Glorious pesos equal the same mighty Dollar for so many years. Our border was secured by soldier sent there sometime as punishment and not a way to get richer. So the Haitians’ pests were kept in check from all front and no way to destroy our country. Dominicans working the construction and agriculture jobs were getting fair pay. The thugs for the most part kept in check with mano dura against them by the govt. You see back them we had values and everybody knew their limit. Those were the time when my father a regular Joe could afford to buy a brand new car out of the dealer. These were the time When the Gasoline used to cost 39 cent a gallon. My father used to leave less than three pesos Dominican on top of the table for my mom to cook.
The year was 1978 and Balaguer was the president. People were tired of the same Govt for so long at this time 12 years and Balaguer reluctantly at first finally gave the presidency to Antonio Guzman of the PRD party PARA NUESTRA DESGRACIA.

This fairy tale ended in the opposite direction as your usual fairy tale. It ended for the worse.

Enter the scene the PRD party the same party who raised hell against the Government for so many years. Let me give you a brief history of this party. This once lefty organization composed mainly of lefty/commies/radical. The party head was no other than Juan Bosch. They pushed aside Bosch in late 73 they were some friction within the party after our commie Caamano invaded DR from Cuba that same year and received no support from anybody. Bosch claimed he left the PRD on his own to create another party the PLD. This new party owns foundation the PLD was of a MARXIST agenda in which their own curriculum/journal VALGUARDIA DEL PUEBLO helped organize the legendary Cuban newspaper Gamma.


Well it seen all those years the PRD was seating in the minority they were studying, Ulises Heaureaux’s playbook how to get back at the country who kept them in the minority for so long. And pay the country did. From 1978 to 1986 they completely sacked all our country’s resources. This PRD party left the country in bankruptcy.
Our once mighty pesos tumble to the ground by all the excesses and corruption. The Gas price went to the roof. Antonio Guzman all the corruption around him starting with his own daughter got so enormous he killed himself and put himself out of misery. Nevertheless Jorge Blanco beat him to the punch during his term in office he took everything what was left from the previous administration. He took so many loans from the FMI and left the country with no money to pay back inflation went to the roof. The people had enough and went to the streets to change the situation or be killed. DR went into a mini civil war and to prevent an all out civil war Jorge Blanco sent the Army to deal with the population killing many Dominicans way more than Balaguer ever did against our commies. (Jorge Blanco fled the country was repatriated from Venezuela deservedly was convicted on corruption and when Hipolito won the presidency in 2000 the PRD overturned that conviction go figure)


Now who did the people of the Dominican Republic relied on after the chaos and uncertainty in 86?
Was it the lefty "GREAT LEADER" Juan Bosch to the rescue? NO try again

Hint: a blind broken down 80 year old


he played his own agenda to his advantage along with the pena gomez elections. i am bitter toward that man but at the same time to be the bigger man let him rest in peace. he is no longer around.
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#3 - Posted 13 October 2009, 2:30 PM
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Once upon a time DR used to be one of the safest places and most stable economy in all Latin America. Our Glorious pesos equal the same mighty Dollar for so many years. Our border was secured by soldier sent there sometime as punishment and not a way to get richer. So the Haitians’ pests were kept in check from all front and no way to destroy our country. Dominicans working the construction and agriculture jobs were getting fair pay. The thugs for the most part kept in check with mano dura against them by the govt. You see back them we had values and everybody knew their limit. Those were the time when my father a regular Joe could afford to buy a brand new car out of the dealer. These were the time When the Gasoline used to cost 39 cent a gallon. My father used to leave less than three pesos Dominican on top of the table for my mom to cook.
The year was 1978 and Balaguer was the president. People were tired of the same Govt for so long at this time 12 years and Balaguer reluctantly at first finally gave the presidency to Antonio Guzman of the PRD party PARA NUESTRA DESGRACIA.

This fairy tale ended in the opposite direction as your usual fairy tale. It ended for the worse.

Enter the scene the PRD party the same party who raised hell against the Government for so many years. Let me give you a brief history of this party. This once lefty organization composed mainly of lefty/commies/radical. The party head was no other than Juan Bosch. They pushed aside Bosch in late 73 they were some friction within the party after our commie Caamano invaded DR from Cuba that same year and received no support from anybody. Bosch claimed he left the PRD on his own to create another party the PLD. This new party owns foundation the PLD was of a MARXIST agenda in which their own curriculum/journal VALGUARDIA DEL PUEBLO helped organize the legendary Cuban newspaper Gamma.


Well it seen all those years the PRD was seating in the minority they were studying, Ulises Heaureaux’s playbook how to get back at the country who kept them in the minority for so long. And pay the country did. From 1978 to 1986 they completely sacked all our country’s resources. This PRD party left the country in bankruptcy.
Our once mighty pesos tumble to the ground by all the excesses and corruption. The Gas price went to the roof. Antonio Guzman all the corruption around him starting with his own daughter got so enormous he killed himself and put himself out of misery. Nevertheless Jorge Blanco beat him to the punch during his term in office he took everything what was left from the previous administration. He took so many loans from the FMI and left the country with no money to pay back inflation went to the roof. The people had enough and went to the streets to change the situation or be killed. DR went into a mini civil war and to prevent an all out civil war Jorge Blanco sent the Army to deal with the population killing many Dominicans way more than Balaguer ever did against our commies. (Jorge Blanco fled the country was repatriated from Venezuela deservedly was convicted on corruption and when Hipolito won the presidency in 2000 the PRD overturned that conviction go figure)


Now who did the people of the Dominican Republic relied on after the chaos and uncertainty in 86?
Was it the lefty "GREAT LEADER" Juan Bosch to the rescue? NO try again

Hint: a blind broken down 80 year old


he played his own agenda to his advantage along with the pena gomez elections. i am bitter toward that man but at the same time to be the bigger man let him rest in peace. he is no longer around.




mirabueno I don't know if you ever live during his administration or any other than him. I did. His record speak for itself. Most Dominicans resident in DR appreciate el doctor Joaquin Balaguer for all his sucess and accomplishment and for what he meant to the country. You can say he was one of the least Dominicans politician who never got richer thru the fruit of our country and when he die he gave all his little posesion away to the most needed. Now how many politician you can say that in DR? Back them we had a leader and not 100 head running around.
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?

exactly not to mention the economic collapse. way to carry the torch doctor dolittle!
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?



Cibaeno I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. The 60's and 70's were turbulent time in our country. Communism was threatning the entire world including our very own country. Also we even had an invasion by Caamano from Cuba during this time to turn our country into another tropical gulag. What were Balaguer suppose to do bend over and allowed our commies to take over? I go by my own,family experience and talking to our people during this time and subsequent time. If you did not pose any threat in turning our way of life during those time yes it was paradise like my family lived. Pero si los isquierdista estaban tratando de revocar el govierno como Caamano que Balaguer estaba suspuesto hacer? The lefty were a small minority in our country. If you were a lefty of course Balaguer was evil. He was the opposite to their way of life. Look it out this way Cibaeno why do so many people in our country venerate Balaguer?
Edited on 10/13/2009 3:49 PM by vacanos.
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?

exactly not to mention the economic collapse. way to carry the torch doctor dolittle!



mirabueno please enlight me what economic collapse? Also remember when Balaguer made it easier to our population to destroy our environment like the Haitian did. Jesus
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?



Cibaeno I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. The 60's and 70's were turbulent time in our country. Communism was threatning the entire world including our very own country. Also we even had an invasion by Caamano from Cuba during this time to turn our country into another tropical gulag. What were Balaguer suppose to do bend over and allowed our commies to take over? I go by my own,family experience and talking to our people during this time and subsequent time. If you did not pose any threat in turning our way of life during those time yes it was paradise like my family lived. Pero si los isquierdista estaban tratando de revocar el govierno como Caamano que Balaguer estaba suspuesto hacer? The lefty were a small minority in our country. If you were a lefty of course Balaguer was evil. He was the opposite to their way of life. Look it out this way Cibaeno why do so many people in our country venerate Balaguer?

"family experience"
the people in your family must be people that existed before your time. usually when people go by what ther family says it happens to be family members that are old timers. many of them would not say anything naughty against balaguer because they have such an alligience to him. balaguer feed them as thier meal tickett so they are indebted to him.
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?



Cibaeno I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. The 60's and 70's were turbulent time in our country. Communism was threatning the entire world including our very own country. Also we even had an invasion by Caamano from Cuba during this time to turn our country into another tropical gulag. What were Balaguer suppose to do bend over and allowed our commies to take over? I go by my own,family experience and talking to our people during this time and subsequent time. If you did not pose any threat in turning our way of life during those time yes it was paradise like my family lived. Pero si los isquierdista estaban tratando de revocar el govierno como Caamano que Balaguer estaba suspuesto hacer? The lefty were a small minority in our country. If you were a lefty of course Balaguer was evil. He was the opposite to their way of life. Look it out this way Cibaeno why do so many people in our country venerate Balaguer?

"family experience"
the people in your family must be people that existed before your time. usually when people go by what ther family says it happens to be family members that are old timers. many of them would not say anything naughty against balaguer because they have such an alligience to him. balaguer feed them as thier meal tickett so they are indebted to him.



Mirabueno see my post again and check where I stated my own experience too. Go check your country's history about our economy back then and then check all the excess and corruption by Guzman and Blanco and why the lefty had no chance of overthrowing the govt during Balaguer. When the Pesos were equal to the mighty Dollar you knew Caamano had no chance. Please go and learn about your country history. You will be surprise when you find out for yourself how many Dominicans Jorge Blanco killed when he sent the Army to kill the population. Listen to this way more than Balaguer ever did against our lefty.
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Yea. Balguer was great. RIGHHHHT. Excuse my french but bullshit...the 70s were a time when the state was busy killing a whole new generation of dominican thinkers, where there was no free thought, WHEN PEOPLE VOTED WITH THEIR FEET AND LEFT THE COUNTRY EN MASSE. Riddle me vacanos: If things were so great then why did so many of our parents leave the country at the exact same time that your attempting to paint as some paradise?



Cibaeno I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. The 60's and 70's were turbulent time in our country. Communism was threatning the entire world including our very own country. Also we even had an invasion by Caamano from Cuba during this time to turn our country into another tropical gulag. What were Balaguer suppose to do bend over and allowed our commies to take over? I go by my own,family experience and talking to our people during this time and subsequent time. If you did not pose any threat in turning our way of life during those time yes it was paradise like my family lived. Pero si los isquierdista estaban tratando de revocar el govierno como Caamano que Balaguer estaba suspuesto hacer? The lefty were a small minority in our country. If you were a lefty of course Balaguer was evil. He was the opposite to their way of life. Look it out this way Cibaeno why do so many people in our country venerate Balaguer?


I'll have to agree with Vacano on this one CIBAO... Communism would have really F...d US!

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