| #1 - Posted 14 October 2009, 1:17 PM | |
Location: United States, Rock Hills, North Carolina Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2594 Posts: 159 | Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Simple Question: Given the never-ending instances of corruption, mismanagement and nepotism in the current administration (and every so-called democratic administration since 1966), is it time for a Popular, Civil Revolution in the DR? If yes, Why; if not, Why not? |
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| #2 - Posted 14 October 2009, 1:52 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 3200 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR The events of 68 put an end to the power elite in France...... In this region re-distribtion of land is key..... Nationally produced food only covers 60 percent of the population's minimum requirements of proteins and calories. Land ownership is heavily concentrated in Venezuela, as in much of Latin America, in "latifundia", or great landed estates. According to the National Land Institute, which oversees the government's land reform and redistribution efforts, 60 percent of arable property belongs to just two percent of landowners. Under Chávez's land law, punitive taxes are charged for estates over a certain size that have left land lying unproductive, after which the government can intervene and expropriate idle land. In addition, the state is repossessing state land that was illegally occupied by large landholders, for redistribution to peasant farmers, mainly through the formation of cooperatives and collective farms, on the argument that this is the only way they can compete with large-scale agribusiness interests. The distributed land remains in the hands of the state, which is to provide the new cooperatives with housing, health care, education and soft credits. By August 2003, 1,340,000 hectares had been handed over to just under 63,000 families. The president recently stated that "Wherever there are latifundia, wherever land has been left unused, the hand of the state should arrive, through the Ministry of Agriculture and the Land Institute." He also plans to use the army to help carry out an inventory of unproductive rural property. http://www.ipsnews.net/print.asp?idnews=25284 S. |
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| #3 - Posted 14 October 2009, 1:52 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 3200 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR The events of 68 put an end to the power elite in France...... In this region re-distribtion of land is key..... Nationally produced food only covers 60 percent of the population's minimum requirements of proteins and calories. Land ownership is heavily concentrated in Venezuela, as in much of Latin America, in "latifundia", or great landed estates. According to the National Land Institute, which oversees the government's land reform and redistribution efforts, 60 percent of arable property belongs to just two percent of landowners. Under Chávez's land law, punitive taxes are charged for estates over a certain size that have left land lying unproductive, after which the government can intervene and expropriate idle land. In addition, the state is repossessing state land that was illegally occupied by large landholders, for redistribution to peasant farmers, mainly through the formation of cooperatives and collective farms, on the argument that this is the only way they can compete with large-scale agribusiness interests. The distributed land remains in the hands of the state, which is to provide the new cooperatives with housing, health care, education and soft credits. By August 2003, 1,340,000 hectares had been handed over to just under 63,000 families. The president recently stated that "Wherever there are latifundia, wherever land has been left unused, the hand of the state should arrive, through the Ministry of Agriculture and the Land Institute." He also plans to use the army to help carry out an inventory of unproductive rural property. http://www.ipsnews.net/print.asp?idnews=25284 S. |
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| #4 - Posted 14 October 2009, 2:52 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Chavez. like every commie bass turd before him, is on his way to becoming one of the richest men in the world, at the cost of his impoverished people. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #5 - Posted 14 October 2009, 2:58 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1444 Posts: 2555 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Quote: RosaLaLinda previously said: Simple Question: Given the never-ending instances of corruption, mismanagement and nepotism in the current administration (and every so-called democratic administration since 1966), is it time for a Popular, Civil Revolution in the DR? If yes, Why; if not, Why not? It would be nice to think it would work. Why will it not work? The corruption is in the hearts of all the people. The new leaders would simply take over and begin to enrich themselves. China has very little corruption. If you are caught, you are shot. Let congress bring back the death penalty for corruption, and long jail sentences for lesser versions, and beginto put the rich in jail, or shoot them. Corruption will come to a halt The problem is - who gets to decide who is corrupt. William Visit: www.caribbeanrealty.ca www.casablancacabarete.com |
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| #6 - Posted 14 October 2009, 3:11 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1513 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Quote: cabaretewilliam previously said: Quote: RosaLaLinda previously said: Simple Question: Given the never-ending instances of corruption, mismanagement and nepotism in the current administration (and every so-called democratic administration since 1966), is it time for a Popular, Civil Revolution in the DR? If yes, Why; if not, Why not? It would be nice to think it would work. Why will it not work? The corruption is in the hearts of all the people. The new leaders would simply take over and begin to enrich themselves. China has very little corruption. If you are caught, you are shot. Let congress bring back the death penalty for corruption, and long jail sentences for lesser versions, and beginto put the rich in jail, or shoot them. Corruption will come to a halt The problem is - who gets to decide who is corrupt. I was shocked the first time I read it was outlawed in DR. Bring it back with a BANG! |
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| #7 - Posted 14 October 2009, 3:28 PM | |
Location: United States, Rock Hills, North Carolina Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2594 Posts: 159 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Something must be done and be done quickly. We're falling further and further behind. Pretty soon, a hellhole like Haiti is going to pass us by. By the way things are going it would not surprise me if in ten years, we Dominicans are crossing the border to go to work in Haiti. Maybe that's what it will take: The humiliation of falling behind Haiti to finally wake up us to the depravity in government mismanagement that's been going on for years. |
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| #8 - Posted 14 October 2009, 3:30 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2009 Member #: 2977 Posts: 1513 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Quote: RosaLaLinda previously said: Something must be done and be done quickly. We're falling further and further behind. Pretty soon, a hellhole like Haiti is going to pass us by. By the way things are going it would not surprise me if in ten years, we Dominicans are crossing the border to go to work in Haiti. Maybe that's what it will take: The humiliation of falling behind Haiti to finally wake up us to the depravity in government mismanagement that's been going on for years. By then it will be too late. Haiti's never getting out of that hole. |
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| #9 - Posted 14 October 2009, 3:39 PM | |
Location: United States, Rock Hills, North Carolina Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2594 Posts: 159 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR I wish I could believe that. There are a lot of people here in NY state talking about moving low-tech factories to Haiti rather than China (some say this is just the beginning). Given that country lack of a strong, central goverment the business elite in NYC have come to believe they can turn Haiti into a 21st century NY protectorate. Mark my words: The world is leaving teh DR behind in leaps and bounds...And that pisses me off because I KNOW WHAT DOMINICANS CAN DO. WE ARE CAPABLE OF SUCH MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE GETTING FROM Sani Abacha, I mean, Leonel Fernandez. |
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| #10 - Posted 14 October 2009, 3:43 PM | |
Location: United States, Rock Hills, North Carolina Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2594 Posts: 159 | RE: Is it time for a Civil, Popular Revolution in the DR Something must be done and quickly. |
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