| #11 - Posted 26 October 2009, 3:41 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 2769 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... |
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| #12 - Posted 26 October 2009, 3:45 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1306 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: MedinaNYC previously said: NEW YORK (CNN) -- Let's all pretend to be the astrologer Walter Mercado for a moment. Say we predict that the Obama administration's master plan to engage people of Latino/Hispanic/Spanish origin proves to be effective. Let's say that along with strategic partners Telemundo and the Census Bureau, they somehow manage to corral the millions of "Latinos" into filling out the 2010 census forms in April. Say the idea of plot-kneading the message into an already half-baked yet inexplicably popular telenovela, "Mas Sabe el Diablo," wins over the hearts and minds of "Latinos" everywhere. But what's a Latino? While we all may speak a version of our Spanish colonizer's language, contrary to popular belief, we're not all Mexican. Yes, the majority of Latinos in America are of Mexican descent, but we also hail from other countries around the world.. http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/10/22/cepeda.latino.census/index.html Without going into the historical origins of the LatinAmerica term, the current modern day meaning of a Latino is someone who comes from or is of LatinAmerican descent.Simple as that. The whole Mexican comment was uncalled for unless it was meant for certain segments of the American population (states where the only Latino they see are Mexicans.) Quote: Take the ethnically ambiguous 15 percent of us who descend from the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and Cuba. An overwhelming majority of us aren't solely of Spanish, black or native origin: We're all of the above and then some (some of our ancestors migrated from Asian, Middle Eastern and an array of European countries). ??? And? Majority of Latinos are not 'solely' of one origin, the overwhelming majority are of mixed heritage. Mexicans make up the majority of Latinos in the USA and the vast majority are of mestizo or pred. Amerindian origin. With the possible exception of certain southern cone countries like Uruguay & Argentina, the same holds true for the rest of LatinAmerica. Quote: With the 2010 census upon us, the time is now for the fastest-growing minority group in the country to define themselves for themselves and at the same time clear up the cultural confusion surrounding our identity. But how can we, given the perplexing racial categories on the census, coupled with our own complex identity issues, paint an accurate picture of who and how complex we are, not just what we are? The US census has been aware for some time now that Latinos/Hispanics are not a single 'race or color' thus the sub-divisions. I don't understand what she wants here: Ethnicity=Latino/Hispanic Nationality=Dominican, Puerto Rican or Cuban, etc. If the majority of us are not solely of one origin like she says, so what does she want? For their to be black, white, mestizo, mulatto, zambo, tri-racial, etc. categories? Quote: Recently, I was told that my maternal grandmother's own abuela was Vietnamese; my maternal great-great-grandfather was Haitian; somewhere on my paternal side, we're supposedly Sephardic. As in many Dominican families in my New York neighborhood -- Washington Heights -- with ties to the motherland, blackness is rarely discussed. Quote: When I traveled to Sierra Leone and Ghana, I was asked if I was Moroccan, Lebanese or Eritrean. In Paris, if I was Brazilian or Arabic. In fact, I've been singled out a couple of times when entering and leaving Brazil, and was once accused of having a fake American passport by an agent. Being mistaken for everything but a person of Dominican heritage has certainly piqued my desire to examine how I and other Latinos fit into our national and global communities. That's nice. And? Majority of Domincan posters here have similar stories. It is what it is. Most people don't know and we do run the spectrum. I can post pics of not only individuals but groups of Domincans who look Egyptian, Eritrean, Somalian, Lebanese, Central American, Spaniards or Nigerian. When we travel to regions not familiar with us, I've gotten Egyptian, Puerto Rican, Colombian, Cuban, Brazilian, etc. And this from people of those countries, lol. I've had Egyptians talk to me in Arabic, this is nothing extraordinary. Quote: One thing is certain: Christopher Columbus and his pirates of the Caribbean did their best to not only conquer the land but also, through slavery and miscegenation, to literally change the face of the New World. Calling Christopher Columbus a pirate is just plain stupid. The whole blame game has to stop, LatinAmericans are not carbon copies of Spaniards. |
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| #13 - Posted 26 October 2009, 3:46 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 340 Posts: 1306 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... Why does it seem that people like her always get over represented by having their bs opinions printed? |
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| #14 - Posted 26 October 2009, 3:50 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3762 Posts: 73 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: vacanos previously said: Quote: MedinaNYC previously said: I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. After reading her article, it was like, "what are you talking about Raquel?" She was "floored" when she learned that 80% of Puerto Ricans choose "white" for the racial box on the last census? Get a clue Raquel! It shouldn't be a shock to you. We have many "Dominican" after studying in the USA felt in love with the one drop rule after being brainwashed by the afro-centrist. They auto proclaim color as the reason to follow and see us (Dominican nationalist proud of our country) very ignorant. When they are fully capable of spiting their venom they return to their roots to force their color-race issue on us Dominican. They are some like her in this Dominican site. |
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| #15 - Posted 26 October 2009, 3:53 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3762 Posts: 73 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... That makes no sense... Did you actually read the article or are you displaying an emotional reaction to Vacanaos bullhockey rant?? |
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| #16 - Posted 26 October 2009, 7:02 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3407 Posts: 2119 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... That makes no sense... Did you actually read the article or are you displaying an emotional reaction to Vacanaos bullhockey rant?? it makes alot of sense and the reason why any opinion that i have on that woman makes sense is because i have read many other things that she has written about dominicans on her website. she groups everyone by race just the way they do here in the states which is nothing but a tool invented by the white man to distance himself from everyone. why do you think white and black culture in america is so different from each other? yet in the dominican our cultures are the same regardless of color. |
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| #17 - Posted 26 October 2009, 7:04 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3407 Posts: 2119 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: Sajomero previously said: Did you guys know that she is married to a Haitian and there is completely clueless as to DR?? She's just riding her Latina in the City fame city by mostly bashing DR culture. Its funny how she ALWAYS talks about her world travels, but I bet my finca on her not having a clue who lives in Villa Mella and how they differ from those that live in Janico but they consider themselves Domincan first. We need to contact her and have her explain her DR expertise, Im already on it. Frankly if you are going to talk about racism in the DR, you need to have traveled the four corners of the country, the highlands and the valleys to really get a clue what we are all about. Washington Heights is NOT the best representation of what Dominicans are. sajomero good piece of work on those facts! |
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| #18 - Posted 26 October 2009, 7:09 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3278 Posts: 461 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: MIRABUENO previously said: Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... That makes no sense... Did you actually read the article or are you displaying an emotional reaction to Vacanaos bullhockey rant?? it makes alot of sense and the reason why any opinion that i have on that woman makes sense is because i have read many other things that she has written about dominicans on her website. she groups everyone by race just the way they do here in the states which is nothing but a tool invented by the white man to distance himself from everyone. why do you think white and black culture in america is so different from each other? yet in the dominican our cultures are the same regardless of color. Well America is a melting pot of cultures coming from all over the world...therefore having no one single culture. Therefore putting a flaw in your argument, But i do understand what you are trying to say though..and it makes a lot of sense. Tout nèg ki renmen libète pa janm vle wè polis.-kreyòl- |
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| #19 - Posted 26 October 2009, 7:28 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: August 2009 Member #: 3407 Posts: 2119 | RE: Interesting CNN Article - 'But what's a Latino?' By Raquel Cepeda Quote: HaytiQuisqueyaBohio previously said: Quote: MIRABUENO previously said: Quote: ethio_rican previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Never heard of this chick until i read the article posted by Medina... But i'll agree with Vacanos that she has fallen for the American White and Black divide and as we don't see ourselves in such terms, I concluded as many of you have, that by grouping us Caribenos in the American-Race-Rules, shows her how clueless about our caribbean Spanish-African-Taino ancestries she is... That makes no sense... Did you actually read the article or are you displaying an emotional reaction to Vacanaos bullhockey rant?? it makes alot of sense and the reason why any opinion that i have on that woman makes sense is because i have read many other things that she has written about dominicans on her website. she groups everyone by race just the way they do here in the states which is nothing but a tool invented by the white man to distance himself from everyone. why do you think white and black culture in america is so different from each other? yet in the dominican our cultures are the same regardless of color. Well America is a melting pot of cultures coming from all over the world...therefore having no one single culture. Therefore putting a flaw in your argument, But i do understand what you are trying to say though..and it makes a lot of sense. haitiano i wasent trying to point out the melting pot of cultures in america. i was pointing out the distinction of culture between white and black americans with history in the united states. "Well America is a melting pot of cultures coming from all over the world" |
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