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| #1 - Posted 22 October 2009, 12:06 PM | |
 Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 3116  | Border Wall??? Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Edited on 10/22/2009 12:22 PM by xwill7. |
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| #2 - Posted 22 October 2009, 1:32 PM | |
 Location: United States Join date: February 2009 Member #: 2112 Posts: 2417 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Generoso started a thread about this subject google it here on the site. There you will find all the answer you are looking.  SEREMOS RECONOCIDOS LOS TRINITARIOS CON LAS PALABRAS SACRAMENTALES: "DIOS" "PATRIA" Y "LIBERTAD". ASI LO PROMETO ANTES DIOS Y EL MUNDO: SI LO HAGO, DIOS ME PROTEJAS, Y DE NO, ME LO TOME EN CUENTA, Y MIS CONSOCIOS ME CASTIGUEN EL PERJURIO Y LA TRAICION, SI LOS VENDO. |
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| #3 - Posted 22 October 2009, 2:38 PM | |
Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 3116 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: vacanos previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Generoso started a thread about this subject google it here on the site. There you will find all the answer you are looking. I will search for it. Where did everyone go? This is a ghost house |
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| #4 - Posted 22 October 2009, 7:30 PM | |
 Location: United States, Santo Domingo Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 4777 | RE: Border Wall??? I couldn't log on going to the main page, I circumvented the main page and went straight to the forum. There must be a glitch with the web site. Should be fixed in the AM.  I did start a tread originally with the "wall" idea, and then changed the name, but you can read the comments in the beginning of my "Haitian Dilemma........ "Is better to light a candle than curse the darkness" Confucius |
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| #5 - Posted 22 October 2009, 9:49 PM | |
 Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 49 | RE: Border Wall??? Unlike us humans who seem to feel that we could cut off borders to prevent influx of migration, what many of you are not considering in building a "Wall" between the two Estates is the ecological problems it will pose to certain live species depending on an open border to survive. With much of the known resentments being held in views by many Dominicans posing as nationalistic conservative extremists and protectionists trying to pass themselves as patriots of DR, it is easier said than done when talking about erecting a wall at the border. If many of you think that by simply building a wall that it would solve all the social problems between the two nations, we are gravely mistaken. P.S: Anyways if many of you on here were actually serious about such a project, better initiatives would have been taken in effort to amass support by petition. Hell, how about starting a roll call kind of thread asking who are in favor of the wall? |
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| #6 - Posted 22 October 2009, 10:34 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Walls can be climbed with ladders, are expesive, it will drive the cement price really high because of increase demand... It is just not a good idea... A military border agency with 10,000 men and proper arms and vehicles and temporary cells, as well as a decent paycheck should solve the problem... Haitians who do make it to the border will find jobs, In that case, punish the Dominicans who would hire them (undermined Dominican workers), make him pay a hefty fine, and leave in him in jail for a month or so, that'll teach him... The haitian unable to work, will turn a criminal or return back to haiti; either way he's screwed.... What say you |
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| #7 - Posted 22 October 2009, 10:38 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2008 Member #: 1813 Posts: 188 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Unlike us humans who seem to feel that we could cut off borders to prevent influx of migration, what many of you are not considering in building a "Wall" between the two Estates is the ecological problems it will pose to certain live species depending on an open border to survive. With much of the known resentments being held in views by many Dominicans posing as nationalistic conservative extremists and protectionists trying to pass themselves as patriots of DR, it is easier said than done when talking about erecting a wall at the border. If many of you think that by simply building a wall that it would solve all the social problems between the two nations, we are gravely mistaken. P.S: Anyways if many of you on here were actually serious about such a project, better initiatives would have been taken in effort to amass support by petition. Hell, how about starting a roll call kind of thread asking who are in favor of the wall? It's funny that you mention ecological dangers as a result of the wall. While I don't doubt that a wall, if built, could possibly harm the environment one can also argue that it may help save the environment, at least that on the Dominican side. It'll help "prevent" or at least reduce the crossing of illegal Haitians which in turn would lead to a decrease in deforestation for charcoal on DRs' territory. Perhaps there could be some sort of natural wall? Planting mangroves on the massacre river would at least discourage immigration. Those mangroves are real tuff to get through. Haven't you guys seen Bears adventure episode where he's in the DR? Yumnuk posted the episode video in his "Landscape and Wildlife" photo thread. Edited on 10/22/2009 10:39 PM by joblitsky. |
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| #8 - Posted 23 October 2009, 10:48 AM | |
Location: United States, Chicago Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 3116 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Walls can be climbed with ladders, are expesive, it will drive the cement price really high because of increase demand... It is just not a good idea... A military border agency with 10,000 men and proper arms and vehicles and temporary cells, as well as a decent paycheck should solve the problem... Haitians who do make it to the border will find jobs, In that case, punish the Dominicans who would hire them (undermined Dominican workers), make him pay a hefty fine, and leave in him in jail for a month or so, that'll teach him... The haitian unable to work, will turn a criminal or return back to haiti; either way he's screwed.... What say you Those are some good options. The boder wall could be dug into and tunnels will start to pop up. If nothing is done, Dominicana as we all know it will be gone. If Dominicans do not hire, we will also see more people begging on the streets |
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| #9 - Posted 23 October 2009, 12:41 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? How tall should the wall be? Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? Walls can be climbed with ladders, are expesive, it will drive the cement price really high because of increase demand... It is just not a good idea... A military border agency with 10,000 men and proper arms and vehicles and temporary cells, as well as a decent paycheck should solve the problem... Haitians who do make it to the border will find jobs, In that case, punish the Dominicans who would hire them (undermined Dominican workers), make him pay a hefty fine, and leave in him in jail for a month or so, that'll teach him... The haitian unable to work, will turn a criminal or return back to haiti; either way he's screwed.... What say you Those are some good options. The boder wall could be dug into and tunnels will start to pop up. If nothing is done, Dominicana as we all know it will be gone. If Dominicans do not hire, we will also see more people begging on the streets If they're begging on the streets, they're easy to spot and be arrested... I am agaisnt the wall idea but if it's the only action to be done, then by all means, build it! |
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| #10 - Posted 23 October 2009, 1:23 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 3200 | RE: Border Wall??? The best idea would be to equalize wages. In some countries wages had to be paid though the bank. Only on deposit of 8 weeks pay could someone hire. Each site where work is carried out needs to be registered with a unique number and three Dominicans need to sign the payroll. The Germans had a good system of hiring Turkish and other foreign workers. They could enter with a visitors visa - a company had to advertise the post for Germans - then if no applicants a Turkish worker could be employed - initially on one year contract. S. |
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