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| #121 - Posted 2 December 2011, 11:13 PM | |
 Location: United States, El cuarto bate Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 10466  | RE: Border Wall??? Why don't illegals sleep at night??? You can hear them at all hours of the night talking very loud. I don't stay in a barrio, but they can afford apartments near where I stay because they split the rent between like 30 of them!  People have to work the next day! Real question: Why do they talk so loud if the person is 2 feet in front of them? |
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| #122 - Posted 3 December 2011, 4:19 PM | |
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| #123 - Posted 3 December 2011, 4:22 PM | |
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| #124 - Posted 3 December 2011, 4:36 PM | |
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| #125 - Posted 3 December 2011, 9:53 PM | |
Location: United States, El cuarto bate Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 10466 | RE: Border Wall??? Quote: brasilenosisback previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Quote: Atabey previously said: Quote: Atabey previously said: Quote: xwill7 previously said: Everyone is talking about building a border wall along the Dominican/Haiti border to help control the flow of illegals entering DR without showing proper documents. A few questions: What do you think is a good material to use? re-enforced cement with Strategically placed Watch Towers equiped with modern communication and tracking/lighting capabilities. How tall should the wall be? 20' with climb prevention additions to the west facing side. Who should build it? Military, private companies, Illegals, or people that are serving time in Dominican jails? The Israelis use Palestinians to build their Wall, a combination of Prisoners and cheap Haitian labor can be used to save money and time. If the wall were to be built, should navy ships be on guard on the north and south? A small force on either side will be needed as illegal traffic in persons and goods/services will seek out opportunities to cross. X-Man, Let's get back on Topic on this Any person who does not see the writing on the wall-no pun intended-should read the following article to grasp the utter chaos and unredeeming nature of the situation in Haiti. Simply stated: there is no hope for a massive turnabout in Haiti   The population projections and the multifacted hindrerances to modernization and development are beyond the scope of any realistic outside attempt. Both due to outside incompetence and internal discombabulation. The internal viability of any realistic positive outcome is historically speaking and in its current and likely future discourse DOA-dead on arrival DR has to take care of its own before it becomes Haiti 2.0 "Amid all the finger-pointing, however, nearly everyone taking part in the relief effort is quick to place at least some of the blame on the Haitians themselves. "Corruption is the reason those reconstruction funds haven't broken loose," says one U.S. business consultant, who describes most Haitian politicians as "pathological narcissists" with little interest in helping their own country." "The dysfunction, say reconstruction officials, was like nothing they'd ever seen. "I wish I could organize a trip of Tea Party activists and take them to Haiti, so they could see what happens if they have a country with no government," says Earl Kessler, an urban-disaster consultant for USAID. A central complaint was the lack of strategy: The "Action Plan," while laying out the core priorities for Haiti's recovery, didn't go into many specifics. That left it up to Haiti's ministries to devise their own plans. Some, like the health and agriculture ministries, came up with robust strategies. But in other key areas — housing, debris removal, waste management — nothing happened. Some Haitian ministers simply refused to pick up the phone; others demanded large payoffs before they'd sign off even on small plans. "I've had two ministers come up to me this week, personally, and ask what's in it for them," says a frustrated IHRC official. "But that's how this game gets played down here. He who has the most money buys the best minister, and gets the work. And since money grows on trees in this disaster, the attitude among Haitian officials is: Just call up your buddies in Washington, and they'll send another check." Then there was another major obstacle to reconstruction: the Haitian ruling class, a handful of prominent industrial families that collectively control most of the country's wealth. Haiti's elite has maintained dominance for generations through strategic alliances with Haitian politicians who provide lucrative government contracts in exchange for patronage. Some of those same influential Haitians owned much of the land now needed to house refugees — and with national elections coming up that November, government officials weren't going to alienate their major benefactors. "Préval wasn't about to go around seizing up property," says a U.N. official who has spent much of the past year trying to find land for resettlement camps. "It became readily apparent that he was not going to do anything to offend his supporters." And on and no til the break of the new millennial http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-world-failed-haiti-20110804?page=5 . Last time that I was in Santiago I could not even sleep with all of the illegals talking very loud at all hours of the night... Also, I do not stay in a barrio, I stay in a nicer area! They have filtered in... One person rents an apartment and a few days later like 10 to 20 dudes show up and the apartment sounds like a gallera, people comining in and out 24/7 man its crazy. Their music blasting all day, and always a cuerro shows up mad and screaming at one of the dudes...WTF! next time just stay outta Santiago. And from what Im reading they obviously must be pretty decent if they stay in the "nicer area" with you. Ive been all over, bad areas, nice areas, and in all of them, I can find some very noisy dominicans and Haitians alike. So get over it man, its the way the world is. Some people are quite, some are noisy. filling 20 people in a small apartment is the only way that they can afford the higher rent. Not fair for the other property owners... Property values will start to slide |
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