abc200 previously said:

The best idea would be to equalize wages. In some countries wages had to be paid though the bank.
Only on deposit of 8 weeks pay could someone hire. Each site where work is carried out needs to be registered with a unique number and three Dominicans need to sign the payroll.
The Germans had a good system of hiring Turkish and other foreign workers. They could enter with a visitors visa - a company had to advertise the post for Germans - then if no applicants a Turkish worker could be employed - initially on one year contract.
S.

CarlosFranco previously said:



Walls can be climbed with ladders, are expesive, it will drive the cement price really high because of increase demand... It is just not a good idea... A military border agency with 10,000 men and proper arms and vehicles and temporary cells, as well as a decent paycheck should solve the problem... Haitians who do make it to the border will find jobs, In that case, punish the Dominicans who would hire them (undermined Dominican workers), make him pay a hefty fine, and leave in him in jail for a month or so, that'll teach him... The haitian unable to work, will turn a criminal or return back to haiti; either way he's screwed.... What say you

Sajomero previously said:


A wall wouldn't solve all our social ills, but its more of a deterrent to stop the massive influx and the environmetal degradation. We have some of our largest national parks right on the border like Sierra de Bahoruco. There are several heavily forested areas as well in La Descubierta, Pedro Santana and Los Botaos. People should not be killed in the process of protecting our land, but Haitians need to learn to respect the environment. Its sad to see the comparison of border towns and see that the other side is a desert. We can not afford to loose any more trees, period.
The wall can be built out of a myriad of readily avialable materials that can be sourced right on the spot for the most part. In the coastal areas near ports and docks, empty fright containers can be used and actually retrofitted to be used for different things. In the drier, less forested areas stone can be quarried as well as earthbag technology can be used to build it. If Cristophe was able to build a massive structure like the Citadelle back then, why can't we build something simpler now??
This should be started in crucial areas that need urgent protection to avoid further degradation and confrontation.

abc200 previously said:

a lot of the turks crossed at night and lived in camps like gypsies.
When I was there the police were strict - in addition to identity you had to have the police registration o where you were staying or receipt from hotel that did the registration for you. Assuming you had a job and all the employer registration was correct and you had registered your address with the local police the final permission / visa took about a day queuing in long lines at various government offices.
As in the DR now they rounded up illegals and sent them by train home.
It might be cheaper to enforce residence by spot checksrather than have a wall. Someone without a valid residence could be deported. Repeat offenders could be imprisoned. In Germany spot checks on transport - trains, buses, cars were effective. Even before the berlin wall and extensive border fences of w. germany relatively few could stay any length of time in w. germany due to checks and requirements to register - employment, accommodation, visa.but just as germany depended on turkish labour DR depends on Haiti labor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Germany
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CarlosFranco previously said:



Haitians undermine Dominican Labor (paycheck)... I don't hear of Germans going to France or America, cuz turks undermine their paycheck!!!

Micaela previously said:

It's amazing how people think that every Haitian in DR is privately employed, by the construction industry of farms. That's not it. Only 1/3 is privately employed, the rest who work, do it for themselves, they are self-employed. Plus we have a large number or children, women and elderly that don't do any productive work. How would we register those and with what document, if they don't have a paper that say who they are, where or when they were born, no saying anything of how they abandon everything and run as fast as they can when they suspect that any authority -said immigration- is close? Yes Germans checked trains, buses, and cars. Can we have a Dominican army man behind every tree, 24/7 to prevent Haitians cross through the border mountains and rivers at all hours?

When people would understand that we are DR, not Germany, USA or other country, just DR and our neighbors are Haitians, yes those that readily play the race card against us to guarantee that no action would be taken against their massive invasion?

abc200 previously said:


Sure plenty do - Germany does not have a minimum wage - some political parties demand this.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/apr2008/wage-a28.shtml
Fascist Germany doesn't want one.
Germans are undercut by Turks and go and work in France and UK that have minimum wages.
The low wage sector of Germany is 22 percent of workforce.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/apr2008/wage-a28.shtml
Hotels, restaurants, hospitals etc. in UK and France have large numbers of Germans who have been displaced by Turks at home.
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abc200 previously said:

The best idea would be to equalize wages. In some countries wages had to be paid though the bank.
Only on deposit of 8 weeks pay could someone hire. Each site where work is carried out needs to be registered with a unique number and three Dominicans need to sign the payroll.
The Germans had a good system of hiring Turkish and other foreign workers. They could enter with a visitors visa - a company had to advertise the post for Germans - then if no applicants a Turkish worker could be employed - initially on one year contract.
S.