El 66% de los ciudadanos y ciudadanas no cree que los haitianos son tratados como esclavos, pero el 32% cree que sí

Los ciudadanos haitianos que residen de manera ilegal en la República Dominicana, trabajen o no, deberían ser repatriados, de acuerdo con el 41 por ciento de la población, estableció la encuesta Gallup-Hoy. El sondeo también estableció que más de la mitad de la población, el 59%, no cree que exista la intención, por parte de Estados Unidos, Francia y Canadá, de unificar a Haití y República Dominicana.

Los ciudadanos haitianos que residen de manera ilegal en la República Dominicana, trabajen o no, deberían ser repatriados, de acuerdo con el 41 por ciento de la población, mientras el 30 por ciento opina que deben volver a Haití los que viven legal o ilegalmente en territorio dominicano, según reflejan los datos de la encuesta Gallup-Hoy.

Asimismo, el 16% aprueba que se envíen a su país a los haitianos que no estén trabajando, sin importar su estatus legal, aunque el 9% cree que se debe permitir que residan tranquilamente aquí.

Para el 50% de las personas que viven en la zona metropolitana, los ciudadanos del vecino país que, estén ilegales y que trabajen o no, deben ser repatriados, lo que también piensa el 47% de la región Este y el 44 por ciento de la región Sur.

En las regiones Norte y Sur también favorecen, en un 34 por ciento y 43 por ciento, que sean devueltos a su nación los que están en el país legal o ilegalmente.

Las personas de las clases altas y populares estiman, en un 44% y 41%, que esos ciudadanos deben ser devueltos trabajen o no. Igualmente el 30% de esos dos segmentos cree que la repatriación debe producirse con todos, sin importar su estatus legal.

Los ciudadanos de 18 a 20 años consideran que se debería permitir que vivan tranquilamente en el país, sin importar su condición, con un 13 por ciento.

Entre el 35% y 38% de los que tienen de 18 a 20 años, de 21 a 29 y de 30 a 39, opinan que se debe llevar a su territorio a todos los que están ilegales, estén trabajando o no, e igualmente, un 48% de los que tienen 50 años y más piensa lo mismo.

En su mayoría, los hombres, un 49%, aprecian que deben repatriarse laboren o no, y las personas con niveles de post grado estiman, en un 83%, que se debe devolver a su país a los haitianos ilegales. Sobre el tema de la identidad, el 65.7% de la población considera que no se le deben dar actas de nacimiento ni cédulas, ni reconocerles iguales derechos que a los dominicanos, a los hijos de haitianos ilegales. Sin embargo, el 32% lo favorece.

Es en el Sur donde menos aprueban esos derechos. El 71% de los ciudadanos así lo cree. En el norte tampoco está de acuerdo el 66%, en el este el 60% y en la zona metropolitana el 63%.

El 65% de las clases altas y populares tampoco lo aprueba, ni el 69% de la clase media, y son las personas de más de 50 años, un 70 por ciento, las que más se inclinan por esa posición.

Los ciudadanos que cursaron la básica y el bachillerato tampoco aprueban que se les dé documentos de identidad a los hijos de ilegales haitianos, con un 69 por ciento y 65%. Sin embargo, quienes más lo aprueban son los de nivel técnico, con 61 por ciento.

La Constitución vigente establece, en su artículo 11, que son dominicanas todas las personas que nacieren en el territorio de la República, con excepción de los hijos legítimos de los extranjeros residentes en el país en representación diplomática, o los que están de tránsito en él.

Hijos de dominicanos. A los ciudadanos se les preguntó si estaban de acuerdo con que se dotara de documentos de identidad a los hijos de ilegales haitianos procreados con dominicanos, y en ese sentido, el 61% respondió que sí, y el 35 por ciento que no.

Es en la región Este donde más aprueban esa propuesta, con un 78%, y menos en la zona metropolitana y el Sur, con 34% y 36%, respectivamente.

Las clases altas son las que más están de acuerdo con esa teoría, con un 66%, la clase media encabeza los porcentajes de las que no lo admiten, con un 40%.

A mayor nivel educativo hay más disposición positiva hacia la documentación de los ciudadanos con esas características. Los universitarios lo favorecen en un 77 por ciento, igual que los de nivel técnico, con un 69 por ciento.

Con relación a los hijos de haitianos que viven legalmente en el país, la mayoría, un 61%, consideró que se les tiene que otorgar sus documentos, aunque el 36% consideró lo contrario.

Los que viven en la zona metropolitana y en la región Norte lo favorecen en un 71% y 75%, en el mismo orden, y los del Norte y el Sur en 52 y 50 por ciento. En esas dos últimas regiones es donde hay más resistencia a la propuesta, con un 44% y 48%, respectivamente. La clase media lo favorece más que las demás, con un 70%, y los segmentos populares se inclinan más hacia la propuesta negadora de derechos, con un 36%. Igualmente, son los sectores con mayor preparación académica los que más se inclinan a que sí se les otorgue una identidad a los hijos de haitianos legales, con un 84% para los de nivel técnico, un 74% para los universitarios, y un 66% para los de post grado.

Ficha técnica

Este estudio de opinión lo realizó la firma Gallup República Dominicana de manera exclusiva para el periódico Hoy. Se entrevistaron 1,200 personas, mayores de 18 años, residentes en las 31 provincias del país y el Distrito Nacional, distribuidas por regiones, Metropolitana, Norte, Sur y Este. La muestra tiene representatividad nacional, con margen de error de más o menos 2.8% y un nivel de confianza de 95%.

Metodología

El sondeo se realizó mediante entrevistas “cara a cara”, a personas escogidas a través de un muestreo proporcional, estratificado y polietápico, con selección aleatoria. Las entrevistas se realizaron de 8:00 de la mañana a 6:00 de la tarde, desde el lunes 16 de noviembre hasta el domingo 22 de noviembre de 2009.

Calidad

La población está constituida por personas de ambos sexos, dividida por clases sociales, por niveles educativos, por zonas de residencia, rural o urbana, y por segmentos de edades.

Source : Hoy.com.do
http://www.hoy.com.do/el-pais/2009/12/4/304803/Mayoria-quiere-repatrien-haitianos

English Version by Google Translate.

66% of citizens do not believe that Haitians are treated like slaves, but 32% believe that they

Haitian citizens illegally residing in the Dominican Republic, working or not, should be repatriated, according to 41 percent of the population, established the "Today Gallup poll. The poll also found that more than half of the population, 59%, does not believe there is an intention on the part of the United States, France and Canada, to unite Haiti and Dominican Republic.

Haitian citizens illegally residing in the Dominican Republic, working or not, should be repatriated, according to 41 percent of the population, while 30 percent think that they should return to Haiti living legally or illegally in Dominican territory, as reflected in the Gallup survey data "Today.

Similarly, 16% approve of his country sent to the Haitians who are not working, no matter their legal status, while 9% believe they should be allowed to reside quietly here.

For 50% of people living in the metropolitan area, citizens of the neighboring country that are illegal and they work or not, should be repatriated, also thinks the 47% of the eastern region and 44 percent of the South.

In the North and South also favor, by 34 percent and 43 percent, they are returned to their nation who are in the country legally or illegally.

The people of the upper classes and popular estimate, 44% and 41%, those citizens should be returned to work or not. Similarly 30% of these two segments believes that repatriation must take place with everyone, regardless of their legal status.

Citizens from 18 to 20 years believe that they should be allowed to live quietly in the country, regardless of status, with 13 percent.

Between 35% and 38% of those aged 18 to 20 years, 21 to 29 and 30 to 39, feel that they must carry all its territory that are illegal, they are working or not, and likewise, 48% of those age 50 and over think the same.

Most of the men, 49%, appreciate that either do not be repatriated, and those with post-graduate levels estimated at 83%, should be returned to their country to illegal Haitians. On the issue of identity, 65.7% of the population considers that it should be given birth certificates or identity cards, nor recognize equal rights as Dominicans, the children of illegal Haitians. However, 32% favor it.

It is in the South where less approving those rights. Approximately 71% of the public thinks so. In the north also disagrees 66%, east 60% and in the metropolitan area 63%.

65% of the upper classes and popular neither approves nor 69% of the middle class, and are the people over 50 years, 70 percent, most are inclined to that position.

Citizens who are enrolled in the elementary and high school do not approve that they be given identity cards to the children of illegal Haitians, with 69 percent and 65%. However, those who approve are more technical level, with 61 percent.

The current Constitution provides in Article 11, which are Dominicans all persons born in the territory of the Republic with the exception of the legitimate children of foreigners residing in the country in diplomatic representation, or are in transit through .

Children of Dominicans. Citizens were asked whether they agreed with for the empowerment of identity documents to children of illegal Haitian procreated with Dominicans, and in that sense, 61% said yes and 35 percent said no.

It is in the eastern region where more approve that proposal, with 78% and less in the metropolitan area and South, with 34% and 36% respectively.

The upper classes are most agree with that theory, with 66%, the middle class leads the percentages of those not admitted, with 40%.

A higher educational level are more positively disposed towards the documentation of the people with those characteristics. The university is favored by 77 percent, as the technical level, with 69 percent.

In relation to the children of Haitians who live legally in the country, the majority, 61% believed they should give their documents, although 36% felt otherwise.

Those who live in the metropolitan area and in the North is favored by 71% and 75% in the same order, and North and South in 52 and 50 percent. In these two last regions where there is more resistance to the proposal, with 44% and 48% respectively. The middle class is more favorable than the others, with 70%, and the popular segments are more inclined towards the proposal denying rights, with 36%. Also, are the sectors with higher educational qualifications were the most inclined to if given an identity to the children of Haitian laws, with 84% for the technical level, 74% for college graduates, and 66% to graduate.

Factsheet

This opinion poll was carried out by Gallup Dominican Republic exclusively for the newspaper Hoy. They interviewed 1,200 people aged 18 years, residing in the 31 provinces and the National District, distributed by region, Metropolitan, North, South and East. The sample is nationally representative, with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8% and a confidence level of 95%.

Methodology

The poll was conducted by interviewing face to face, "people chosen through a proportional sampling, stratified and multistage, with random selection. The interviews were conducted from 8:00 am to 6:00 pm, on Monday 16 November until Sunday 22 November 2009.

Quality

The population consists of persons of both sexes, divided by social class, educational levels, by region of residence, rural or urban, and age segments.

So "if I have read correctly and carefully" this survey shows some great divides even in the Dominican population in DR on the overall migration situation. In some areas surprisingly I am shocked to even see any kind of support of 65.something % for support of issuing birth certificates to Haitians born on DR soil at all, wow!

As already imagined, I know the ones who are not in favor of almost not kind of support for Haitians legal or not are in the older majority of age groups which shows in argument that perhaps are extreme conservatives whom may even hold strong biased resentments toward Haitians simply perhaps of the known fact they are older...

Among the educated Dominicans it shows also a sense of support or at least indifference opinion to the situation as far as I can see, I could be wrong, which I would have to re-read the survey again. Hey Belly, it is funny how I was able to comprehend the Spanish version better then the English translated version which explains the reason if I may have any kind of slight confusion.

Anyway, point is, I was extremely taken to see this much of support at all for any kind of Haitian related granted rights in DR as I have pre-expected to see a larger support for expatriation/repatriation of overall Haitians period, but this proves me wrong that there are some Dominicans who do not see necessary that all Haitians legal or not should have to leave DR.

Oh Belly, it would br nice if you could post the actual website where you got the poll so that people do not manipulate it or presumed that it is not worthy or something and (if I may have missed it) if you already have or did... ignore that I have even mentioned it. Cool and thank you for this survey... Now are we suppose to debate it or leave it at that lol?

Yeah, but minus the wall. It's costly and ineffective.

So Belly,

In which percentage does this guy Ateo fits in ? I mean seriously, how popular do you think is this idea of a 'Great Wall Of China" is in DR as we speak? I, for one, am against this wall idea as so far you can imagine given my stance on the issue as a Dominican-Haitian myself.

However at times, if this must happen to make sure that Haiti and Haitians to get off their asses and work at the current problem as a nation without hope of knowing DR is next door so they can flee to, I am all for that wall and only if that "wall" would not pose and ecological problem which it will and that is not what we want on the island which is already enduring this challenge.

Given reports on how great commercial trade is interdependently expending between the two nations and how talks for greater relation is abreast as well as Haiti now is beginning to look promise(ful) to somewhat a sensible sense of stability, I say this wall idea so far stands no chance as it does not have a great strong consensus support of the mass Dominican populace behind it.

I'm with you here. costly and i just don't see it working. it would be nice if that question would have been on the survey just to see what the gen. public thinks. I can say that just by talking to people from different areas the south western part would be the most supportive and the NW less and the whole eastern kind of in the middle. But it the question gets asked in the 3 top cities SD,Santiago and SFM then Santiago would seen the more supportative and then Santo Domingo and San Francisco a little more distant due to the fact that most locals haven't been facing the illegal immigration problem as much as the other 2.

Cut down costs by getting the Haitians themselves to build it, then shut the door behind them.

If it was cheaper and worked, my position would flip.

I think you are confusing identity cards and birth certificate. The identity cards would be like the proposals that its getting discussed here in USA about providing illegals with a identity cards just to know who they are not any form of legalization like resident cards,Visas or birth certificates.

What about a water channel infested with crocodiles across the border? Nah just kidding but something needs to be done before is too late.