| #91 - Posted 10 July 2008, 5:21 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "due to the fact that many dominicans left for Cuba, Puerto Rico and Venezuela becuase of the racist anti-white policies by the despotic Boyer and his haitian administration." Only the cowards left, arcatype, and from this end of the timeline I say good riddance. No hicieron falta para ser Patria. Am sure many more would have left if they had the means to do so. Since the beginning of the 19th century many calamities fell on Dominicans... Cuba and Puerto Rico were not as deeply affected... but yes we still manage to get our own country with the few that remained |
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| #92 - Posted 10 July 2008, 5:27 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | Quote: arcatype previously said: JAMES1804, SAID Arcatype.....First of all you are an idiot. You actually think Boyer was anti-white? The man was so white himself, it was as if he died last week! Secondly I strongly disagree on the comment that DR should get a piece of the money since "DR" was not proclaimed until 1844. Also some of your own "people" supported being annex by Haiti in 1821. If this were to happen and DR pulled a stunt like this, it would show the world that DR does not really want the best for its neighbor. ARCATYPE: For your information Jean Pierre Boyer's mother was born in the Congo she was a congolese negress (BLACK), Boyer was a dark mulatto. And no, we did not choose to be part of Haiti, the majority of dominicans came to the decision of being admitted to Simon Bolivar's republics. http://www.samanacollege.com/dominican01.html jemesouviens1804... now my man Arca has got a great point there |
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| #93 - Posted 10 July 2008, 5:59 PM | |
Location: United States, Spring Valley, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 142 Posts: 433 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" A great point on what? .....Anyways. Lautaro, Haiti is in the process of rebuilding its major roads. I uploaded a video which talks about the construction of "route national 3". But I think rebuilding the cities is more important. j'ai vu J'ai participe Je me souvien - 1804 |
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| #94 - Posted 10 July 2008, 7:39 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: A great point on what? .....Anyways. Lautaro, Haiti is in the process of rebuilding its major roads. I uploaded a video which talks about the construction of "route national 3". But I think rebuilding the cities is more important. Let´s hope that this process doesn´t get paralyzed by some unexpected political calamity, as it has always happened on our island when things seem to be getting on the right track. BTW, another problem to be addressed islandwide is the lack of resources and preparation of our civil defense organizations to tackle the unexpected arrival of hurricanes and other natural phenomenons. Edited on 7/10/2008 7:48 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #95 - Posted 10 July 2008, 8:00 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: February 2008 Member #: 337 Posts: 596 | JAMESOUVENIERS1804, SAID A great point on what? Denial is a haitian virtue! Arcatype |
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| #96 - Posted 11 July 2008, 1:09 AM | |
Location: United States, Spring Valley, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 142 Posts: 433 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Groups and Organizations like that are very difficult and costly to be created in third-world/developing countries, Lautaro. Take a look at what happened to China....The worlds next super-power. A lot of the people lost their livelyhood because of the earthquake. Its going to take some time before Haiti or DR come up with an effective organization. Lord knows we dont want a island version of FEMA. j'ai vu J'ai participe Je me souvien - 1804 |
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| #97 - Posted 11 July 2008, 2:25 AM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: A great point on what? .....Anyways. Lautaro, Haiti is in the process of rebuilding its major roads. I uploaded a video which talks about the construction of "route national 3". But I think rebuilding the cities is more important. For progress to follow... Roads must be built... How will tourist but more important hotel developers will reach a good untouched area of Haiti if there arent any roads |
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| #98 - Posted 11 July 2008, 7:31 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: Groups and Organizations like that are very difficult and costly to be created in third-world/developing countries, Lautaro. Take a look at what happened to China....The worlds next super-power. A lot of the people lost their livelyhood because of the earthquake. Its going to take some time before Haiti or DR come up with an effective organization. Lord knows we dont want a island version of FEMA. Aargh...please, don't remind me about that, souviens. Every time their "performance" during the aftermath of Katrina comes into my mind, I can barely contain my anger and resentment at their tardiness and utter incompetence in handling the case. Edited on 7/11/2008 12:27 PM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #99 - Posted 11 July 2008, 8:55 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 411 Posts: 3638 | RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" . Edited on 6/17/2009 12:57 PM by cibaeño75. 'The past is never dead. In fact, it's not even past.' - William Faulkner |
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| #100 - Posted 11 July 2008, 4:37 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1396 | Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: cibaeño75 previously said: "due to the fact that many dominicans left for Cuba, Puerto Rico and Venezuela becuase of the racist anti-white policies by the despotic Boyer and his haitian administration." Only the cowards left, arcatype, and from this end of the timeline I say good riddance. No hicieron falta para ser Patria. Am sure many more would have left if they had the means to do so. Since the beginning of the 19th century many calamities fell on Dominicans... Cuba and Puerto Rico were not as deeply affected... but yes we still manage to get our own country with the few that remained The fact is that those who left and stayed away never had real love for the place or were just cowards, Case in point: Juan Sanchez Ramirez. Sanchez Ramirez left during the initial turmoil but returned because he loved the island and considered it his home. He had enough wealth and clout to live in other parts of what was then left of the Spanish Empire in relative comfort. But he returned to what is now the Dominican Republic because it was his home. And he returned with a sword in his hand. Many men of means remained or eventually returned. Only the cowards and those who had no true love for home in the first place made there home in other parts. I say good riddance. I'm not of the mind like you or Balaguer that laments the loss of yesteryear's "elites" and "whites". I'm proud of the people that stayed behind, wether it was out of necessity or out of shear love for the place, to make a patria for us Dominicans. I have no regrets as to what the Dominican people are today and as such I don't lament what could've been if such and such families stayed behind as that psuedo intellectual Balaguer was always prone to do. 1. Am proud of being Dominican too or haven 't you notice 2. I lament that my COUNTRY and my PEOPLE fell to the swords of Haitians and were forced to fleed for their lives... I don't call that cowardice no governent in DR had the means to defend the population... Stupidity would be the name if they remained knowing that the haitians sought to get them out... thats the lowest comment you've ever made... thats like calling a soldier a coward for retreating from a battle because he lacks bullets Or calling European Jews during world war 2, brave for staying and getting GASED |
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