Repay what you stole..."la France" - Santo Domingo

#124 - Posted 13 July 2008, 4:24 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Quote: PeRod previously said: Why Haitians are all the time trying to re-write history just from their very own point of view? Haiti did not gain its independence in 1804, it only gained a military conflict (with a not much mentioned vital support from the British Empire that leaved the French army with no communications). For France, until 1825 Saint-Domingue (Haiti did not exist) was a rebel colony. The real fight for Haitians came in 1825 against a France without Napoleon and without its armies fighting everywhere in Europe. That was actually the moment for Haitians to fight for their liberty (the moment of truth), the moment their very expensive fortress were built for and in that moment they preferred “to buy” that liberty (and, to these days, only Haitians has taken such decision). France had a lot of assets in Saint-Domingue that was destroyed just by the barbarian actions of the Haitians warriors and that was what Alexander Petion (not a Frenchman) proposed to pay and finally Jean Pierre Boyer started to pay. In 1863 we, Dominicans, said “Just Enough” to Spain and nobody here talked about giving money for our missed liberty. We bravely fought against another European power and, you know what?, without offering any money we gained our liberty again (obviously after a terrible fight). France owes nothing to Haiti. That was a deal (a very bad deal made by a very bad diplomacy), that was the way Haitians selected then and the way Haitians have to accept now. You are a genius, you sound like the confuse arctype under a different name, thanks for enlightening the forum, you are the Einstein of history. CNN should report this, all the intellectuals, and historians were wrong all along, you are a brillant man, you should be nominated for a clown grammy. he's looking at things from a different perspective... something you seem incapable to do. You're allowed your own opinions and other people have their opinion... Come on ?, you are entitled to your own opinion, you can not follow the same logic as this imbecile short of being a buffoon. You can look or review thing at different perspective, that allow you step out, of de facto known true however you should gather new information to support this. Your figment of your imagination does not make it right. (leave the crack pipe alone) For your clueless brain, I can say the sky is not blue, and I do have plenty of fact to back this up. Edited on 7/13/2008 4:58 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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RE: Repay what you stole..."la France"

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Lautaro previously said:

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antonioj previously said:

Lautaro here' an interesting article I have seen your writting about the greater west indies

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/602328.html

Thanks for the article, antonio. It just goes to show that, even though our countries may be prepared for integration at the economic level, they still lack the political maturity for making that crucial step. Politics, regrettably, are the cornerstone for everything, specially in the case of our beloved island.

Still, the idea of having the whole archipielago as a fatherland is an attractive one, just look how the japanese have fared having all their islands under one single government.

I think the comparison with Japan is off base some, given how homogeneous they are by comparison with the Caribbean. I have to say there is one good point made in the article in regards to the goal of this integration...the stated intention is to retain college graduates locally, but how does opening the borders to neighboring islands really help this effort?

Out of curiosity what city would people on the forum say is the financial hub of the Caribbean? I have a bad feeling ppl will say Miami, further casting doubt on the ability of this policy to create opportunities for college grads?

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#121 - Posted 13 July 2008, 4:10 PM
AfroLatino Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: How stupid can this person be? Just plain "Stupid" is enough and should do. There is no scale measurement for him, he broke it that we have to invent one for him (l l). Shockingly enough, a stupidity I think and feel even Arc and Carlos would not have stated, however that goes along with the territory of great confusion of what Arc and Carl have been teaching this guy ( )! This guy is unreachable within stupidity, the genius of all stupefied community of stupids in Stupidity Ville (l l). This guy suffers from a high and intense dose of "Realitophobia." ( ha hah l l)! Yupper ( l l )
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#122 - Posted 13 July 2008, 4:17 PM
AfroLatino Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: Well then in that case DR did not gain its independence from Haiti in 1844. DR was a rebel colony. It only gained independence when Haiti started diplomatic relations with her. In fact, let us even say that DR still is not independent if Carlos wants to hear this guy's perspective (l l). Okay, okay, okay stop, I am dying here... let us hear what he has to say, let us give him that chance to at least embarrase himself further and shut us all with his incontestable knowledge oblivious to us all (he heh l l)!!! We are all ears and eyes, let us all hear and see what more he has to say people (lol)!!! Perhaps, you the great debater teacher should start handing him little note cards eh Carlos (lol)... Wow, now this guy stand a better chance at really chase me out of DT (lol)! Edited on 7/13/2008 4:18 PM by AfroLatino.
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#125 - Posted 13 July 2008, 5:31 PM
jemesouviens1804 Location: United States, Spring Valley, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 142 Posts: 439	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" No my friend, thats clearly not what I really believe. I was just showing how one can twist the words and apply them to DR. j'ai vu J'ai participe Je me souvien - 1804
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#128 - Posted 13 July 2008, 8:22 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5613	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: antonioj previously said: Lautaro here' an interesting article I have seen your writting about the greater west indies http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/602328.html Thanks for the article, antonio. It just goes to show that, even though our countries may be prepared for integration at the economic level, they still lack the political maturity for making that crucial step. Politics, regrettably, are the cornerstone for everything, specially in the case of our beloved island. Still, the idea of having the whole archipielago as a fatherland is an attractive one, just look how the japanese have fared having all their islands under one single government. Edited on 7/13/2008 8:38 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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#129 - Posted 14 July 2008, 1:37 PM
AfroLatino Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 1284	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" My questions are in this video and song for those who speak, understand and comprehend Creole on here. Please listen to the words and perhaps just might have to translate for our great open minded Dominican friends and neighbor. Edited on 7/14/2008 1:39 PM by AfroLatino.
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#123 - Posted 13 July 2008, 4:22 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: Well then in that case DR did not gain its independence from Haiti in 1844. DR was a rebel colony. It only gained independence when Haiti started diplomatic relations with her. Come on ?, you are entitled to your own opinion, you can not follow the same logic as this imbecile short of being a buffoon. You can look or review thing at different perspective, that allow you step out, of de facto known true however you should gather new information to support this. Your figment of your imagination does not make it right. For your clueless brain, I can say the sky is not blue, and I do have plenty of fact to back this up. (this meant for carlos el cer..o) Edited on 7/13/2008 4:25 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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#126 - Posted 13 July 2008, 5:57 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: jemesouviens1804 previously said: No my friend, thats clearly not what I really believe. I was just showing how one can twist the words and apply them to DR. No doubt, you are smarter than that We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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#127 - Posted 13 July 2008, 7:30 PM
antonioj Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2786	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Lautaro here' an interesting article I have seen your writting about the greater west indies http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/602328.html We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope.
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#130 - Posted 14 July 2008, 2:38 PM
Manhattanite Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1984	RE: Repay what you stole..."la France" Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: antonioj previously said: Lautaro here' an interesting article I have seen your writting about the greater west indies http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/haiti/story/602328.html Thanks for the article, antonio. It just goes to show that, even though our countries may be prepared for integration at the economic level, they still lack the political maturity for making that crucial step. Politics, regrettably, are the cornerstone for everything, specially in the case of our beloved island. Still, the idea of having the whole archipielago as a fatherland is an attractive one, just look how the japanese have fared having all their islands under one single government. I think the comparison with Japan is off base some, given how homogeneous they are by comparison with the Caribbean. I have to say there is one good point made in the article in regards to the goal of this integration...the stated intention is to retain college graduates locally, but how does opening the borders to neighboring islands really help this effort? Out of curiosity what city would people on the forum say is the financial hub of the Caribbean? I have a bad feeling ppl will say Miami, further casting doubt on the ability of this policy to create opportunities for college grads? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. http://twitter.com/ergface
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