arcatype previously said:

ARCATYPE

You cant answer my last comment, i wonder why? because clearly theirs no justifiable answer.

AFRO-LATINO, SAID
I have brother, fortunately many times before over and over again. Go learn how to read by going back on any interactions I might have had with you in the past till even now on this site. Go find your answer from those responses I have given you many times before for this same very question. I hope you have the capacity of patience to be able to do just that which is the ability of reading which you lack greatly unfortunately and sadly.

Your answer's dont justify the intrusions of haitians in territory that did not belong to them. Let me answer my own question since your escaping your own dissapointment in haitian historical apologetics. First invasion 1801 Toussaint Louverture reasoning, wanted to conquer the island under the pretext to expand haitian rule. At the same time trying to create an ill-fated alliance with France. He failed outstandingly Napoleon Bonaparte could not conceive of such plan. Toussaint was finally captured and jailed by request from Bonaparte in France where he later expired. Second invasion 1805 King Henri Christophe and General Jean Jacques Dessalines wanted to take over the entire island at the same time wanted to eliminate all whites. Commited atrocities in the eastern side of the island against it's peaceful and defenseless citizens. But failed miserably in their mission, Ferrand and the french contingency stood their ground as the haitian invaders lay siege on the city of Santo Domingo, a large fleet of french ships appears near the coastline the haitian troops retreated at that point from the spanish portion of the island, but as they leave they slaughter villagers all along the southern region on the eastern side of the island. Third invasion 1822 Jean Pierre Boyer invades the newly independent spanish colony with the same expansionist dream. But this time the invasion becomes an occupation due to the fact that the former spanish colony was in poor condition. Boyer emancipates the remaining slaves and forbids whites from owning land. Takes their property and splits it with his troops, closes down the university and other institutions. Freezes the commercial activity within the city and it's villagers, institutes a curfew and attempts to ban the spanish language. Fails miserably in most of his attempts to control every aspect of his dictatorial administration. Until 1843 Charles Riviere Herard of Haiti declares a military coup d'etat against Boyer. in 1844 the dominicans declare their independence rightfully so from the haitian yoke. That's why meathead!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo

arcatype previously said:

ARCATYPE

Your answer's dont justify the intrusions of haitians in territory that did not belong to them. Let me answer my own question since your escaping your own dissapointment in haitian historical apologetics. First invasion 1801 Toussaint Louverture reasoning, wanted to conquer the island under the pretext to expand haitian rule. At the same time trying to create an ill-fated alliance with France. He failed outstandingly Napoleon Bonaparte could not conceive of such plan. Toussaint was finally captured and jailed by request from Bonaparte in France where he later expired. Second invasion 1805 King Henri Christophe and General Jean Jacques Dessalines wanted to take over the entire island at the same time wanted to eliminate all whites. Commited atrocities in the eastern side of the island against it's peaceful and defenseless citizens. But failed miserably in their mission, Ferrand and the french contingency stood their ground as the haitian invaders lay siege on the city of Santo Domingo, a large fleet of french ships appears near the coastline the haitian troops retreated at that point from the spanish portion of the island, but as they leave they slaughter villagers all along the southern region on the eastern side of the island. Third invasion 1822 Jean Pierre Boyer invades the newly independent spanish colony with the same expansionist dream. But this time the invasion becomes an occupation due to the fact that the former spanish colony was in poor condition. Boyer emancipates the remaining slaves and forbids whites from owning land. Takes their property and splits it with his troops, closes down the university and other institutions. Freezes the commercial activity within the city and it's villagers, institutes a curfew and attempts to ban the spanish language. Fails miserably in most of his attempts to control every aspect of his dictatorial administration. Until 1843 Charles Riviere Herard of Haiti declares a military coup d'etat against Boyer. in 1844 the dominicans declare their independence rightfully so from the haitian yoke. That's why meathead!!!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo

AFRO-LATINO, SAID
What I do not ever expect you will ever admit or omit is that many Dominicans supported and welcomed some of the early invasions until the later ones when a new institution of Anti-Haitiasmo campaign started and gained support in the minds of mostly Dominican Elites down to later the mass populace. Also, the very supposedly Dominican secondary independence from Spain was helped and giving the supports of many Haitians, something you or perhaps many Dominicans will never mention on here. Putting all your posts in bold fonts is not going to make your views resonate with everyone, you weak attention seeker you.

By Haiti's account, not all the past leaders, presidents or even ancestors have been all that righteous or without flaws in their Governmental ruling, but I am sure you will tell me all the Dominicans ones were without flaws and conflict between them, to population and even within their very own parties as constant opposition power struggles has always been the island's main political issues. As even in Haiti's history only the early invasions are or were considered justified due the the known pretext as you would put it, that because after the salve revolt Haiti still feared the French would return which was Dessalines' invation primary reasons reenforced with or by his iron fist ruling and perhaps Henry Christophe's invasion intents as well otehr than the fact he believed the whole Island was to be indivisibly one nation given that he believed all the property and territory which were ceded to France were to be Haiti's since they have won the revolt against the French fair and square as he believed.

The earlier Toussaint's invasion before both Dessalines and Christophe was considered an invasion for French purpose and gain as he was a General then for the French long before he started the pre-movement for the Haitians' slave revolt in 1791 which were not quite successful. And because Bonapart believed he was a former General under his Army he deemed that after Toussaint's capture that he be brought to France's tribunal to face high treason charges and be tried as a French Citizen which explains why he was condemned in French prison, you dumb nut.

P.S: Your wrongful chronologies and mis or re-interpretation of Haitian and Dominican History has proven you to be an utterly complete uncredited idiot who will use anything to justify you racist campaigns against Haitians and Haiti. Ironically and quite expectedly hypocritical of you that since you like Wikipedia so much yet always discredit the wiki links provided to you by others here is another wiki link for you wiki scholar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti_Invasion_of_Dominican_Republic

My chronology is correct it fits the historical narrative, this is not information based on some sociological study on perceptions or what would of been. Its based on the actions of people that shaped history in pro or against their respective country's, by carrying out decisions that will bring popular opinion on the majority populace. You are terribly mistaken the earlier the invasions the most negative effect it took on the perception against haitians hateful intentions. The inhabitants on the spanish side of the island never felt threaten by the french, because their way of being never was changed the people were not oppressed by their race. Despite your thought that haitians helped dominicans in the war of restoration it just exposes the fragmentation in haitian society, from haiti's inception. Remember when haiti became divided in itself north ruled by Henri Christophe and south ruled by Alexander Petion. Obviously you will recognize that? i hope. And again the help from Haiti was very limited and not that important. To me France actually helped the Dominican Republic more in it's war against Haiti, and its attempted invasions that were repelled by the many dominican generals that fought to rid us from haitian rule in the ongoing wars for independence. The war of restoration with Spain was an event that did not fuel the same threat as that from Haiti. Spain was acting as a pseudo empire with no real strength, the fact is many of those in the spanish guard even remained in the Dominican Republic that war was for show more then anything else.

jemesouviens1804 previously said:

Will.....Sil vous plait arreter. Pourquoi ne puis vous ignorez lui. Retournez sur le theme.

AfroLatino previously said:



Ouais,

Ainsi donc savez-bien que vous avez définitivement raison. Je lui ai dit avec beaucoup de reprises et meprises qu'il est sur "Ignore" des nombreuses fois . Mais les choses hideux et ignorants dira-t-il, cet idiot la au moment méritent des certains d'extraits.

Quoi qu'il en soit, j'ai eu commencé une nouvelle file de debat que constructivement nous allons parcourir et nous allons étudier à la fois la Constitution de ces deux nations et pays pour voir comment nous pouvons parvenir à créer de nouveaux des idées pacifique d'aller de ou vers l'avant.

Je me sens si nous ne pouvons pas venir à des résultats de débattre ces problèmes auxquels nous sommes confrontés que bien j'espère et l'espère au moins les Constitutions et les mots de ceux du passé mai évoquent certains aspects où l'espoir peut prospérer pour un mieux d'aujourd'hui et un mieux demain pour tout l'île d'Hispaniola.

Les noms des sujets sont:

* In Both Countries Ancestors' Own Words.
* Comparing Both Nations' Constitutions.

P.S: Alors, allez vous familiariser avec les constitutions de ces deux pays d'une manière égale peut-être que nous pouvons tous en débattre. Ce qui est drôle c'est que, ce gars très imbécile la a bien choisi son nom ou alias sans le savoir. Savez-vous ce que cela "Archetype a.k.a. Arcatype" signifie?

Archetype: Un exemple très typique d'une certaine personne ou une chose. Quelque chose d'un original qui a été imité. Une image mentale primitif hérité et héritié dès les premiers ancêtres de l'homme, et censé être présent dans l'inconscient collectif. Un symbole ou récurrent motif dans la mythologie littérale d'une vieille croyance d'une personne.