My point exactly. Haiti's wrongs are never mentioned. The history btwn. both countries are unknown or doesn't want to be told.

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US actor Danny Glover, who plans an epic next year on Haitian independence hero Toussaint-Louverture, said he slaved to raise funds for the movie because financiers complained there were no white heroes.
"Producers said 'It's a nice project, a great project... where are the white heroes?'" he told AFP during a stay in Paris this month for a seminar on film.
"I couldn't get the money here, I couldn't get the money in Britain. I went to everybody. You wouldn't believe the number of producers based in Europe, and in the States, that I went to," he said.
"The first question you get, is 'Is it a black film?' All of them agree, it's not going to do good in Europe, it's not going to do good in Japan.
"Somebody has to prove that to be a lie!", he said. "Maybe I'll have the chance to prove it."

"Toussaint," Glover's first project as film director, is about Francois Dominique Toussaint Louverture (1743-1803), a former slave and one of the fathers of Haiti's independence from France in 1804, making it the first black nation to throw off imperial rule and become a Republic.

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"I think dominicans hold a grudge more so than we haitians though..what's up with that.."

Jabao, I think given the economic state of HT, Haitians have no choice but to try to put the "hate" aside b/c they are actively moving to DR for work. They have nowhere to go and DR is the closest place to go. So naturally, Haitians are going to have to put there grudge aside for Dominicans.

I think that the saying for that in spanish is: "La necesidad tiene cara de hereje" (Necessity has the face of a heathen).

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Im really liking this debate and the great questions raised by you guys. I have to admit that most people including many haitians aren't aware of the massacre the haitian military commited against the cibaenos. You guys heard it hear live. It was my now wife that made me aware of this history that we happened to skip in our chapter. Maybe it was in small print. humour NY4life you'll live much longer..manito..

The massacre committed by Trujillo is known moreso but the dominicans haven't made any acknowledgement of it either. So let's say both government need to come up with a monument or some center where both dominican and haitians can learn about this in finally put this sh8 to rest and dance some compas and merengue at the border.

NY4life I think that is very insolente of you. I never hated dominicans and i wasn't smuggled across the border. There are many like me who got to DR legally and never let our visa expire to become illegal. And have gotten our dominican residency when it was dirt cheap..its way to much now and with that provisional residency DR governemtn is making alot money..i wonder where this money is going..ok we all know..more yipetas..for a poor a$$ country there are alot of jeepetas on the streets...Back in the days the thing was to drive to the DR for the weekend and party all night..and drive back home on sunday..that was b4 that curfew thing way b4 DR was some tourist spot. I think it is more of misconception and self defense mood on our part. Although we know that some people are ignorant on both sides. If you guys have been reading me I always try to balance it out..even have got on my fellow compatriot for exaggerating the issue. And we have others such as Jemesouviens, Hay, and Antonioj who have been respectful. I think out of all of them Im the one that put these idiots have it..that's just me...I was always like that..mwen pa renmen moun fe frekan avec mwen.specially some ti malheureux dominikian from some barrio..I call it how I c it..and that's that...but take everyones feeling into consideration and have personally point who I refer to when posting..it isnt jabao bashing the whole dominican people..that would be ludicrous... ok my take for tonite..peace and live my platano brothers...got love you whackos...

"Im really liking this debate and the great questions raised by you guys. I have to admit that most people including many haitians aren't aware of the massacre the haitian military commited against the cibaenos. You guys heard it hear live. It was my now wife that made me aware of this history that we happened to skip in our chapter. Maybe it was in small print. "

Diablo loco, that is tragic if Haitians don't know what happened in DR. That's a big chapter to skip man. Haitians know Trujillo and what he did but don't know what happened to the Cibaenos before that. That's crazyyyy. Through this forum I'm glad we are able to put history together for Haitans and Dominicans alike that don't know and especially for the outside world who only judges the book by the current conditions. DR-HT relations are very delicated and complex as we have stated numerous times with both sides hurting one another. Before you judge DR, you need to know about the place and about the relationship with our neighbor.

Jabao, there is a time and place to joke. I don't think DR-HT relations is that place on here b/c I feel it leads to people misinterpreting what is been said. Furthermore, leading to ignorant comments that are suppose to be "funny" from extreme characters from both countries. I'm not trying to insinuate those commments or initiate that type of dialogue.

P.S., I have humor, trust me, I'm Dominican. Ya tu sabe....suave....sak pase.....lakay lakay....

"NY4life I think that is very insolente of you. "

Need not take offense. That wasn't the purpose of my statement. Sometimes the truth hurts and you know that statement is true and applies all. As you have stated many times, these people go over the border and swallow there pride to obtain working opportunities not available in there own country. If Haiti was the country that had better fortunes, Dominicans would face issues there due to historical relations as well as being illegal immigrants in the country. Imagine what would happen if roles where reversed.

Honestly speaking and based on my understanding of Haitian people and culture, if the roles were reversed I really don't think we would have the same level of problems.

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