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The end of Haiti?
The end of Haiti?

* Jan 14th 2010, 17:21 by The Economist | WASHINGTON

HERE is some food for thought from Tyler Cowen:

From the reports I have seen, my tentative conclusion is that the country as a whole is currently below the subsistence level and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Hundreds of thousands of people have died, the U.N. Mission has collapsed, the government is not working (was it ever?), and hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of people are living in the streets without reliable food or water supplies. The hospitals and schools have collapsed. The airport is shut down. The port is very badly damaged. The Haitian Penitentiary has collapsed and the inmates -- tough guys most of them -- are running free for the foreseeable future. There is no viable police force or army.

In other words, it's not just a matter of offering extra food aid for two or three years.

Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.

The earthquake has directly impacted about a third of the nation's population of 9 million. Perhaps 2% of the population has been killed, and a much larger share has been injured. Much, and maybe most, of the capital city has been destroyed. Millions may be without homes.

Before the disaster, Haiti was the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere and among the poorest nations on earth. Infrastructure was barely functional, and it was difficult for the government to govern in the best of circumstances. Rebuilding will have to take place almost entirely under the direction of outsiders, with resources provided almost entirely by outsiders. What exactly does that mean for a country?

One has to suspect that many of the survivors will seek to emigrate, and given the circumstances, many countries may be willing to accept them.

This tragedy will present an interesting challenge to the global community. Oddly enough, it may be one for which they'll need the practice. Within a few decades, there will be other island communities needing to relocate on a wholesale basis. If there is any positive to be taken away from this disaster, it may be that the world has the opportunity to begin developing the institutions it will need to peacefully manage climate refugees.
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The end of Haiti?

* Jan 14th 2010, 17:21 by The Economist | WASHINGTON

HERE is some food for thought from Tyler Cowen:

From the reports I have seen, my tentative conclusion is that the country as a whole is currently below the subsistence level and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Hundreds of thousands of people have died, the U.N. Mission has collapsed, the government is not working (was it ever?), and hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of people are living in the streets without reliable food or water supplies. The hospitals and schools have collapsed. The airport is shut down. The port is very badly damaged. The Haitian Penitentiary has collapsed and the inmates -- tough guys most of them -- are running free for the foreseeable future. There is no viable police force or army.

In other words, it's not just a matter of offering extra food aid for two or three years.

Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.

The earthquake has directly impacted about a third of the nation's population of 9 million. Perhaps 2% of the population has been killed, and a much larger share has been injured. Much, and maybe most, of the capital city has been destroyed. Millions may be without homes.

Before the disaster, Haiti was the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere and among the poorest nations on earth. Infrastructure was barely functional, and it was difficult for the government to govern in the best of circumstances. Rebuilding will have to take place almost entirely under the direction of outsiders, with resources provided almost entirely by outsiders. What exactly does that mean for a country?

One has to suspect that many of the survivors will seek to emigrate, and given the circumstances, many countries may be willing to accept them.

This tragedy will present an interesting challenge to the global community. Oddly enough, it may be one for which they'll need the practice. Within a few decades, there will be other island communities needing to relocate on a wholesale basis. If there is any positive to be taken away from this disaster, it may be that the world has the opportunity to begin developing the institutions it will need to peacefully manage climate refugees.

C, one thing that shocks me is that Haiti was not prepared for a disaster like this.

The DR and all other earthquake-prone countries should take notice.

Let me tell you, if Haiti was poor before, that's NOTHING compared to have it will be now.
Edited on 1/17/2010 12:09 PM by TuPapaupa.
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The end of Haiti?
Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.



I say this Economist is a buffoon (lol)!

I am sure when over will be over for Haiti is when we will all globally as a world called Earth would one day look above into the sky and a major Asteroids did away of us all the human race as did the dinosaurs.

Even then and after humans like will go on. As human beings, generally we are known for our resilience and aspiration to want to survive here on Earth. I mean, birth was still taking place amid this ill devastated occurrence. So trust me by brother, the word "end" is all subjectively relative.

P.S: By the way, I want your opinion on this post here below
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Edited on 1/17/2010 2:47 PM by TanBellaMami.
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The end of Haiti?
Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.



I say this Economist is a buffoon (lol)!

I am sure when over will be over for Haiti is when we will all globally as a world called Earth would one day look above into the sky and a major Asteroids did away of us all the human race as did the dinosaurs.

Even then and after humans like will go on. As human beings, generally we are known for our resilience and aspiration to want to survive here on Earth. I mean, birth was still taking place amid this ill devastated occurrence. So trust me by brother, the word "end" is all subjectively relative.

P.S: By the way, I want your opinion on this post here below
--> http://www.everythinghaitian.com/Blogs/BlogDetail.aspx?BID=183&PID=2196


Please do not quote me and do not EVER refer to me as "brother".
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Don't agree. The international community knows that they can not leave Haiti micromanage itself,
they are a "nanny state" and will be one for many years.
Haiti will rise from its ashes and prosper and flourish again.
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Don't agree. The international community knows that they can not leave Haiti micromanage itself,
they are a "nanny state" and will be one for many years.
Haiti will rise from its ashes and prosper and flourish again.


I don't understand your post. You don't agree with what?
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The end of Haiti?
Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.



I say this Economist is a buffoon (lol)!

I am sure when over will be over for Haiti is when we will all globally as a world called Earth would one day look above into the sky and a major Asteroids did away of us all the human race as did the dinosaurs.

Even then and after humans like will go on. As human beings, generally we are known for our resilience and aspiration to want to survive here on Earth. I mean, birth was still taking place amid this ill devastated occurrence. So trust me by brother, the word "end" is all subjectively relative.

P.S: By the way, I want your opinion on this post here below
--> http://www.everythinghaitian.com/Blogs/BlogDetail.aspx?BID=183&PID=2196
You are delusional.

Why don't you allow this thread to get on it's feet before you post your blabbings?.
Edited on 1/17/2010 12:57 PM by TuPapaupa.
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* Jan 14th 2010, 17:21 by The Economist | WASHINGTON

HERE is some food for thought from Tyler Cowen:

From the reports I have seen, my tentative conclusion is that the country as a whole is currently below the subsistence level and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Hundreds of thousands of people have died, the U.N. Mission has collapsed, the government is not working (was it ever?), and hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of people are living in the streets without reliable food or water supplies. The hospitals and schools have collapsed. The airport is shut down. The port is very badly damaged. The Haitian Penitentiary has collapsed and the inmates -- tough guys most of them -- are running free for the foreseeable future. There is no viable police force or army.

In other words, it's not just a matter of offering extra food aid for two or three years.

Very rapidly, President Obama needs to come to terms with the idea that the country of Haiti, as we knew it, probably does not exist any more.

The earthquake has directly impacted about a third of the nation's population of 9 million. Perhaps 2% of the population has been killed, and a much larger share has been injured. Much, and maybe most, of the capital city has been destroyed. Millions may be without homes.

Before the disaster, Haiti was the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere and among the poorest nations on earth. Infrastructure was barely functional, and it was difficult for the government to govern in the best of circumstances. Rebuilding will have to take place almost entirely under the direction of outsiders, with resources provided almost entirely by outsiders. What exactly does that mean for a country?

One has to suspect that many of the survivors will seek to emigrate, and given the circumstances, many countries may be willing to accept them.

This tragedy will present an interesting challenge to the global community. Oddly enough, it may be one for which they'll need the practice. Within a few decades, there will be other island communities needing to relocate on a wholesale basis. If there is any positive to be taken away from this disaster, it may be that the world has the opportunity to begin developing the institutions it will need to peacefully manage climate refugees.



When brasil mentioned it definitely had me thinking (god help me). Give the western portion of the island to us after such depopulation efforts and we'll reforest it within a decade.

We should NOT be one of the countries to accept their population and the portion we have should also be relocated if that becomes the plan.

This aid can not continue forever. Haiti was already a leech on the international community, and this just upped the funds needed for that "nanny state" as generoso put it. This is in no way sustainable and drastic measures should be taken.
Edited on 1/17/2010 12:55 PM by ElTorodeCibao.
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