| #121 - Posted 18 January 2010, 12:33 PM | |
Location: United States, Everywhere Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1255 Posts: 13855 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: ONLY a few older members here know Afro like I do.......NOT personally, gracias a Dios, just the nonsense he writes here.......since he was my first "target practice victim".Quote: TuPapaupa previously said: You claim to be part Haitian and part Dominican but all your blabbings is about Haiti. On second though, PLIIIIIIIIIS don't answer me. That's what I've been saying for some time now. He'll come back with some nonsense asking what's wrong with that but he really is biased and one sided. Oh don't worry, s/he will come back with a nauseating and drawn out response where s/he repeats themselves many times over. Btw, he was 50% worse before.......yeah, I know, hard to believe. Edited on 1/18/2010 12:34 PM by TuPapaupa. I am "An Army Of One" ![]() Come Get Some!!. |
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| #122 - Posted 18 January 2010, 6:06 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4116 Posts: 1603 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: mandouafrika previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Ive spoken to Haitians up in the mountains of DR that told me how many just cross the border through the mountans bypassing the border guards and check points. Our border is mostly unprotected and wide open to invasion. Whoever wants to come in can just walk up from any border point and cross over. DR needs a border wall now more than ever before, Ive stated this in the past but now we really must start with this ASAP. We can not assimilate millions of poor, sick and mutilated Haitians. France has plenty of over seas territories and former colonies with plenty of unpopulated lands that can be given to Haitians to live and work and prosper. French Guiana Area - Total 83,534 km2 (32,252.7 sq mi) Population (2008) - Total 221,500 - Density 2.7/km2 (6.9/sq mi) Haiti You can take a Haitian out of Haiti, but he is still a Haitian - problem is not solved that way! Area - Total 27,751 km2 (140th) 10,714 sq mi Population - 2009 estimate 10,033,000[2] (82nd) - Density 361.5/km2 (31st) 936.4/sq mi France could partition a third of French Guiana off to the Haitians for Haiti Nouvo. French Guiana is a better solution than Senegal because French Guiana is lowly populated for it's size and it has terrific natural greenery. Unlike in Haiti there are animals in South America that will eat you for dinner if you try to destroy their jungle. Also...French Guyana is more similar to Haiti culturally than any other country in the Western Hemisphere. French Guyanese also speak a French creole just like Haitians. Censorship reflects society's (made up of a few ignorant forum posters) lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. Potter Stewart "The fool has said in his heart no-God" |
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| #123 - Posted 18 January 2010, 10:19 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4151 Posts: 400 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: greenpeace2 previously said: Quote: mandouafrika previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Ive spoken to Haitians up in the mountains of DR that told me how many just cross the border through the mountans bypassing the border guards and check points. Our border is mostly unprotected and wide open to invasion. Whoever wants to come in can just walk up from any border point and cross over. DR needs a border wall now more than ever before, Ive stated this in the past but now we really must start with this ASAP. We can not assimilate millions of poor, sick and mutilated Haitians. France has plenty of over seas territories and former colonies with plenty of unpopulated lands that can be given to Haitians to live and work and prosper. French Guiana Area - Total 83,534 km2 (32,252.7 sq mi) Population (2008) - Total 221,500 - Density 2.7/km2 (6.9/sq mi) Haiti You can take a Haitian out of Haiti, but he is still a Haitian - problem is not solved that way! Area - Total 27,751 km2 (140th) 10,714 sq mi Population - 2009 estimate 10,033,000[2] (82nd) - Density 361.5/km2 (31st) 936.4/sq mi France could partition a third of French Guiana off to the Haitians for Haiti Nouvo. French Guiana is a better solution than Senegal because French Guiana is lowly populated for it's size and it has terrific natural greenery. Unlike in Haiti there are animals in South America that will eat you for dinner if you try to destroy their jungle. Also...French Guyana is more similar to Haiti culturally than any other country in the Western Hemisphere. French Guyanese also speak a French creole just like Haitians. But does that matter to you Dominicans? No. I think it would be a win-win situation for both parties. Dominicans take ownership of the whole island and Haitians get a fresh new start in a more fertile land not prone to any serious natural disasters. If the reconstruction of Haiti begins what happens if another major earthquake hits the island? What happens if the earthquake hits on the Dominican side? Haiti was always and will always be a blackhole. It's need to be reborn into a star and that will never happen on the island of Santo Domingo. |
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| #124 - Posted 19 January 2010, 12:04 AM | |
Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 3419 | RE: The end of Haiti? The U.S. just might take over Haiti. Pretty good strategic location if there ever was a war between the US, CUBA, and VENEZUELA. Edited on 1/19/2010 12:13 AM by yumnuk3. |
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| #125 - Posted 19 January 2010, 12:08 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, United States Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 10837 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: mandouafrika previously said: Quote: greenpeace2 previously said: Quote: mandouafrika previously said: Quote: Sajomero previously said: Ive spoken to Haitians up in the mountains of DR that told me how many just cross the border through the mountans bypassing the border guards and check points. Our border is mostly unprotected and wide open to invasion. Whoever wants to come in can just walk up from any border point and cross over. DR needs a border wall now more than ever before, Ive stated this in the past but now we really must start with this ASAP. We can not assimilate millions of poor, sick and mutilated Haitians. France has plenty of over seas territories and former colonies with plenty of unpopulated lands that can be given to Haitians to live and work and prosper. French Guiana Area - Total 83,534 km2 (32,252.7 sq mi) Population (2008) - Total 221,500 - Density 2.7/km2 (6.9/sq mi) Haiti You can take a Haitian out of Haiti, but he is still a Haitian - problem is not solved that way! Area - Total 27,751 km2 (140th) 10,714 sq mi Population - 2009 estimate 10,033,000[2] (82nd) - Density 361.5/km2 (31st) 936.4/sq mi France could partition a third of French Guiana off to the Haitians for Haiti Nouvo. French Guiana is a better solution than Senegal because French Guiana is lowly populated for it's size and it has terrific natural greenery. Unlike in Haiti there are animals in South America that will eat you for dinner if you try to destroy their jungle. Also...French Guyana is more similar to Haiti culturally than any other country in the Western Hemisphere. French Guyanese also speak a French creole just like Haitians. But does that matter to you Dominicans? No. I think it would be a win-win situation for both parties. Dominicans take ownership of the whole island and Haitians get a fresh new start in a more fertile land not prone to any serious natural disasters. If the reconstruction of Haiti begins what happens if another major earthquake hits the island? What happens if the earthquake hits on the Dominican side? Haiti was always and will always be a blackhole. It's need to be reborn into a star and that will never happen on the island of Santo Domingo. Sounds good but I don't see it happening, or even the practicality or logic with this drastic move. In the real world these things don't happen much. In story telling tales maybe. If Gods from outer space have a plebiscite and give everybody a chance to choose, I will abide by the outcome of the majority. "Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand". Mark Twain |
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| #126 - Posted 19 January 2010, 10:47 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4151 Posts: 400 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: generoso previously said: Sounds good but I don't see it happening, or even the practicality or logic with this drastic move. In the real world these things don't happen much. In story telling tales maybe. If Gods from outer space have a plebiscite and give everybody a chance to choose, I will abide by the outcome of the majority. What isn't logical or practical about it? These things don't happen much in the real world because this situation is very unique. Haitians cannot stay in the black hole that is present day Haiti. Many of the over 1 million illegal Haitians in DR are going to bring their family members into the DR and the other impoverished Haitians will just flood into all the border provinces of the DR. The standard of living for Dominicans is going to take a nose dive into the asphalt. 2 out of 5 Dominicans are already living in poverty. What happens when the illegal Haitian population reaches 50%? Don't even think that it could never happen because chances are there are more Haitians than Haiti's unreliable census shows and poor Haitian women are baby factories just like poor Central American Latinas in the US. Dominicans are screwed. If they are forced to shed blood to protect their cultural identity,standard of living and sovereignty then there will probably be a severe economic backlash. The other scenario is that if Dominicans just let the flood gates open then the Dominican Republic will become the crime capital of the Western Hemisphere overtaking Jamaica and Colombia. Tourism will fall to it's knees. I don't see anything positive in the long term future for the Dominican Republic as long as impoverished Haitians are on the same island en masse. Relocation seems like the only logical solution and the most cost-effective solution. It is not cost-effective to rebuild Haiti especially being that hurricanes will impede reconstruction efforts and Haitians will be flooding into the DR until reconstruction is completed if it ever gets completes. If the fact that many parts of New Orleans still lay in ruins speaks of anything then Haiti reconstruction will take decades or the reconstruction will never complete itself. I know that the relocation probably has a 1% change of happening but there is no other viable real world solution that benefits either Haitians or Dominicans long term. In the mean time, I hope you have touched up on your Kreyol. Edited on 1/19/2010 11:01 AM by mandouafrika. |
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| #127 - Posted 19 January 2010, 12:40 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 6156 | RE: The end of Haiti? It's such a pity that foreigners like you who understand the magnitude of our plight are in such small numbers, mandou, cuz' we will need all the understanding that we can get, specially for the scenes that are going to be enacted in the months to come, when the intl. community puts the haitian tragedy down the rug as they always do, and we dominicans return to our traditional role in their eyes as the slavers and the oppressors of the haitian. The situation in the Dario Contreras hospital (which the military have had to put into lockdown to prevent the relatives of the haitians keeping bed over there from abusing the facility as they would with their own backyards, i.e. cooking and bathing in the hallways) and the ones of Jimani is just a sample of the awful things in store for the DR in the following months, and perhaps decades, after this tragedy. Edited on 1/19/2010 1:10 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #128 - Posted 19 January 2010, 1:37 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2266 Posts: 1533 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: Lautaro previously said: It's such a pity that foreigners like you who understand the magnitude of our plight are in such small numbers, mandou, cuz' we will need all the understanding that we can get, specially for the scenes that are going to be enacted in the months to come, when the intl. community puts the haitian tragedy down the rug as they always do, and we dominicans return to our traditional role in their eyes as the slavers and the oppressors of the haitian. The situation in the Dario Contreras hospital (which the military have had to put into lockdown to prevent the relatives of the haitians keeping bed over there from abusing the facility as they would with their own backyards, i.e. cooking and bathing in the hallways) and the ones of Jimani is just a sample of the awful things in store for the DR in the following months, and perhaps decades, after this tragedy. No pun intended? |
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| #129 - Posted 19 January 2010, 1:45 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 6156 | RE: The end of Haiti? Yes cyber, I live in ground zero (near the Acropolis), surrounded by construction projects (the new plantations) everywhere. Things have been calm lately, but that's no excuse to let one's guard down. If the history of the island is to be taken as a sample, the most horrible and frightful of bloodsheds have happened when and where it was the less expected. Edited on 1/19/2010 1:48 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #130 - Posted 19 January 2010, 1:54 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2009 Member #: 4151 Posts: 400 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: Lautaro previously said: Yes cyber, I live in ground zero (near the Acropolis), surrounded by construction projects (the new plantations) everywhere. Things have been calm lately, but that's no excuse to let one's guard down. If the history of the island is to be taken as a sample, the most horrible and frightful of bloodsheds have happened when and where it was the less expected. Calm before the storm. You know what time it is. Too bad everybody else doesn't. Thank political correctness and popular opinion for that. |
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