| #81 - Posted 17 January 2010, 5:10 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 1086 | RE: The end of Haiti? Post was deleted (low rank) |
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| #82 - Posted 17 January 2010, 5:21 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 1086 | RE: The end of Haiti? Yes that is true but I mean put yourself in the escaped prisoners shoes. Okay your country is in ruins after a natural disaster. Where are you going to go next? What's the closest place with a decent standard of living? Next door. I don't think they are just going to sit put in the ruins and wait for aid like other impoverished Haitians. Mind you these prisoners have zero to lose especially if they lost their family members. Exactly, I just wanted to make sure the perspectives are being kept real if the shoes were indeed in fact reversed. So long you k now what any one of us here would do if we were in the situation. This is what you call deliberation or pardon by act of nature or god... Some society still have that as a law today as well as if a Death row inmates is being executed and the lever is pulled and no electricity shot is delivered on the chair, by law some states cannot kill that convicted death row inmate. Also, the fact that people like to vote down one's reply even when it is right and being debated shows that those that do that simply lack the ability to engage in the debate plain and simple.. P.S: So they result, out of spite resentments or denial of the truth that they have no valid shit to say sadly. Edited on 1/17/2010 5:36 PM by TanBellaMami. |
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| #83 - Posted 17 January 2010, 5:47 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4401 Posts: 662 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Yeah, and I worry about that. And those 5,000 criminals, possibly the worst of the worst. Let me ask you a personal question. Say you were a prisoner yourself in a prison and an Earthquake happens in the fact of the magnitude as it did in Haiti but picture it in DR (forbid such ill)... cement walls are falling down and all the given nature of an earthquake, would you remain in the prison? Better yet, allow me to push the envelope further. Let us say the Earthquake has passed and things are back to normal, would you then per your own free will and recognizance, turn yourself back in to the prison? Yeah, that would be so me decision huh, wouldn't it brother? What's your point? I don't want to put myself in the shoes of one of the most dangerous criminals in one of the most dangerous countries in the world, they should be shot down. There's no need to sympathize with criminals. Chango ta' veni. |
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| #84 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:00 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 1086 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: Bonaoense previously said: Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Yeah, and I worry about that. And those 5,000 criminals, possibly the worst of the worst. Let me ask you a personal question. Say you were a prisoner yourself in a prison and an Earthquake happens in the fact of the magnitude as it did in Haiti but picture it in DR (forbid such ill)... cement walls are falling down and all the given nature of an earthquake, would you remain in the prison? Better yet, allow me to push the envelope further. Let us say the Earthquake has passed and things are back to normal, would you then per your own free will and recognizance, turn yourself back in to the prison? Yeah, that would be so me decision huh, wouldn't it brother? What's your point? I don't want to put myself in the shoes of one of the most dangerous criminals in one of the most dangerous countries in the world, they should be shot down. There's no need to sympathize with criminals. You see, Evading from the paradox of the question which was (hypothetical) with this kind of rant does not say anything at all... It is not sympathizing with criminals. I am asking "you" a question which places the scenario in DR, yet you could not honestly answer the question even for the sake of the civil dialogue. In fact, you did not answer it at all. So let me guess, you are going to start your "voting down" tactic each time you are pressed in the corner in a dialogue... don't we all wish we could have that kind of feature in real like huh (lol)? Again here is the question: You are a prisoner in a prison in DR and there is an earthquake in the same 7.0 magnitude by which cinder blocks and cement walls are falling down, would you have stayed and died in the prison? Or after the earthquake, given now you have escaped and now free, would you have returned yourself back into the hands of authority yourself by your own free will? Edited on 1/17/2010 6:05 PM by TanBellaMami. |
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| #85 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:05 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: September 2009 Member #: 3672 Posts: 363 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Yeah, and I worry about that. And those 5,000 criminals, possibly the worst of the worst. Let me ask you a personal question. Say you were a prisoner yourself in a prison and an Earthquake happens in the fact of the magnitude as it did in Haiti but picture it in DR (forbid such ill)... cement walls are falling down and all the given nature of an earthquake, would you remain in the prison? Better yet, allow me to push the envelope further. Let us say the Earthquake has passed and things are back to normal, would you then per your own free will and recognizance, turn yourself back in to the prison? Yeah, that would be so me decision huh, wouldn't it brother? I see your point, it is valid one. I would not stay in the prison and I certainly would not turn myself in and neither would anyone else reading your posts. |
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| #86 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:05 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4401 Posts: 662 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: Bonaoense previously said: Quote: TanBellaMami previously said: Quote: ElTorodeCibao previously said: Yeah, and I worry about that. And those 5,000 criminals, possibly the worst of the worst. Let me ask you a personal question. Say you were a prisoner yourself in a prison and an Earthquake happens in the fact of the magnitude as it did in Haiti but picture it in DR (forbid such ill)... cement walls are falling down and all the given nature of an earthquake, would you remain in the prison? Better yet, allow me to push the envelope further. Let us say the Earthquake has passed and things are back to normal, would you then per your own free will and recognizance, turn yourself back in to the prison? Yeah, that would be so me decision huh, wouldn't it brother? What's your point? I don't want to put myself in the shoes of one of the most dangerous criminals in one of the most dangerous countries in the world, they should be shot down. There's no need to sympathize with criminals. You see, Evading from the paradox of the question which was (hypothetical) with this kind of rant does not say anything at all... It is not sympathizing with criminals. I am asking "you" a question which places the scenario in DR, yet you could not honestly answer the question even for the sake of the civil dialogue. In fact, you did not answer it at all. Again here is the question: You are a prisoner in a prison in DR and there is an earthquake in the same 7.0 magnitude by which cinder blocks and cement walls are falling down, would you have stayed and died in the prison? Or after the earthquake, given now you have escaped and now free, would you have returned yourself back into the hands of authority yourself by your own free will? Or course I would escape if I was some lunatic criminal, what's your point? Chango ta' veni. |
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| #87 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:12 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4408 Posts: 1066 | RE: The end of Haiti? Perhaps the inevitable first steps towards the reunification of Hispanola ? Is there really any other way ? |
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| #88 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:15 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Cabarete Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3725 Posts: 1086 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: Bonaoense previously said: Or course I would escape if I was some lunatic criminal, what's your point? Exactly, Of course the question is asked with an hypothetical premise of "if" you were a criminal. Not that I said you are an actual one or should we sympathize with any criminals. Thus my point is, I was merely asking so to bring it or you to the logical aspects of the situation that those criminals who actually escaped in their own "alleged" rational mind in that retrospect did what you say you would have done... Could they still be bad for the society? Of course, but take into consideration the emphasis of the Earthquake factor. Now the second part of the question is: Would you have turned yourself back in after the Earthquake has passed? |
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| #89 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:15 PM | |
Location: United States, Seattle, W.A. Join date: April 2009 Member #: 2555 Posts: 3423 | RE: The end of Haiti? Quote: dominicanheartbeat previously said: Perhaps the inevitable first steps towards the reunification of Hispanola ? Is there really any other way ? There NEVER was a unification in this island between it's current owners. That's a dream many would love but is simply not going to happen. Read some history of the island. Edited on 1/17/2010 6:16 PM by Belly. "People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs" |
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| #90 - Posted 17 January 2010, 6:17 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: January 2010 Member #: 4408 Posts: 1066 | RE: The end of Haiti? This is where I dont understand how these visionaries feel that this crisis will benefit the D.R ? With the greatest mass exodus since Isreal left Egypt about to take place at thier border and barely enough resources to care for thier own , What does this spell for the D.R ? And yes , not to mention a couple thousand of Haitis most degenerate criminals plying thier trade in Sosua and Punta Cana.. |
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