I hate to break your "there-are-no-Tainos-left-on-Hispaniola" party, Afrolatino, but some scientists have proven the falsehood of the myth regarding the Tainos "extinction", by their taking samples of blood in many dominican families, and guess what they found? that the boricuas are not the only ones which can boast the fact of having Taino ancestry. Just take a look at this page:

http://www.kacike.org/GuitarEnglish.html

I usually don't like to partake on this "who-came-first" bickering, but I find it irksome in the extreme when a myth is repeated ad nauseam without the one who post it giving any thought about its certainty whatsoever.

Hey Lautaro I checked the link and I've always known that Taino ancestry existed in many Dominicans and perhaps some Haitians. Repeated searching led me to several other links documenting Taino significance in Haiti as well: http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/vodou/roots6.html
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/history/precolumbian/tainoart.htm

I always believed that Dominicans most likely have significant Taino heritage (not up to par with that of Europe and Africa however). In Haiti I know it's most likely going to be much smaller in terms of Taino heritage however I also believe that as the webster article states, that although the African phenotype has heavily diluted that of the Taino ancestry of modern day Haitians, in some Haitians it still exists, unknown and undiscovered to that person him/herself to this very day.

It´s certainly good to know that we have another thing in common (besides the endless and annoying problems that we face as Third World nations). I have always thought that myth of Taino extinction to be an utter falsehood, specially in the light of this fact: Of all the european colonies in the New World, Hispaniola is the one that have always characterized itself the most by its lack of a substantial population of european women, so it's a fact that the spaniards/french have had to look for other sources in order to satisfy their "needs", if you got my drift. (Not that I would have acted any differently had I been on their shoes, hmm ).

Laut,

I am not saying that there could not be any Dominicans with the Taino Blood at all, but the number is not that great for almost this high percentage of Dominicans to claim. I am sure in the face of any known extinction campaign that at least a couple of Tainos might have survived due to the natural fact that some might have escaped deep into the woods and mountains of the Island which Hispaniola is a very mountainous Island indeed. In fact the name of the Island itself Hayti mean Country of High Mountains.

I like to translate it as "Highland", it's shorter and more to the point.

Or that (lol).

LET ME SEE SOME OF YOU ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS:
"Who Really Wants To Help Haiti and How."
By Wilgeens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg



It is funny how you will hear Haitians do a lot of talking yet individually not one can answer those basic questions which many proclaimed so called Haitians who like to often say they want things to change in Haiti. The irony is, for so many Haitians who tend to like to argue over Haiti's politics have never even been able to answer those questions themselves as well.

"So, you want to see change in Haiti right?" is always the very first question. That question you will have about the entire Haitian population at home or abroad saying yes that they want change. Followed by "Well, how about being part of that change?" is the second question that you will start to see waves of reluctancy from many Haitians to want to answer. Indeed, many Haitians have made it their mission to always criticize current and past Haitian Government officials for all of Haiti's problems. Yet those same Haitians when asked these very questions seem to turn quiet all of a sudden and they will do anything, even start a useless pointless fight or argument just in effort to avoid this question because not one actually can answer it because most Haitians have made it their genetically embedded task to not want to do for their Country yet always claim they would like to see change. Well, this is being addressed to every single Haitians who always tend to be critical of what is going in Haiti. At time even critical of the Haitian government and its officials and who always claim they want to see change in Haiti.

How much change will ever arise if certain or particular Haitians cannot even answer these basic questions leave alone if they were to be asked to give even an imaginary laid out plan on how as a Haitian themselves would like to help Haiti get better as a Nation. This is your chance without any lame excuses, placing blames or playing victims to tell us about your visions followed with possible actions you would like to take in helping Haiti. This should not have ever been a challenging question any Haitians who claim they love Haiti should be having any difficulty with answering by going on the offensive as they always do just to abstain or keep away by avoiding answering these simple questions if as Haitians they really want change. Thus, give me a concise laid out plan without any baseless generalization, deviation and excuses and please it is asked of you to stick to one course of action within your laid out plan. Meaning and for example, if you feel that you want or can help in a certain area or do main of Haiti's problems such as the economical area, your plan would have to consistently remain within that sectorial realm as part of your plan to help bring about changes in Haiti.

If it is in the social area or the political area you are to do the same as well and follow the very same guideline by staying in between the margin of each and every respective areas individually and someone can only pick one area to elaborately give their laid out plan upon for what is to be called their version to help bring about change in Haiti by answering the followings:

* Tell me how exactly you want to help Haiti?

* What kind of Project you intend to be a part of in Haiti?

* Specifically, in which exact domain do you feel any possessing skills you might have may or can benefit Haiti?

* Lastly and surely, when do you estimate to actually go to Haiti or plan to start embarking into those endeavors already?

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Ciba,

To think he says some of his family members were "killed" when they opposed Trujillo yet his views are Trujilloists which stands against what his family members died for is ironic and quite a familial contradiction as opposed to any continual possibility one would believe that his beliefs would be a familial tradition if anything else.

However with him, he goes the opposite direction of what his family have died for and embrace the very beliefs that killed them. As he supports Anti-Haitiasmo and all the concepts wherein that comes with Trujillo's policies.

Carlos is for "White-ification" of the Dominican populace giving his ancestors have been foreigners to Hispaniola themselves is okay as long as they are not Haitians whom shared a greater and deeper connection with DR in terms of inhabitability on the Island kind of aspect and the known history of the Island which connects both Nations regardless if neither nations are acknowledging this or not.