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#81 - Posted 21 February 2010, 12:42 AM
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I believe that atheists are not bad people.
My oldest brother is an atheist and just about every single person I know (family members included) says he is one of the the nicest man they have ever met.

Believing or not believing in God doesn't define a person, in my opinion.

Atheist are some of the nicest people I have ever met.
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#82 - Posted 21 February 2010, 12:44 AM
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I believe that atheists are not bad people.
My oldest brother is an atheist and just about every single person I know (family members included) says he is one of the the nicest man they have ever met.

Believing or not believing in God doesn't define a person, in my opinion.

gimme a break i bet you any money if somebody pulled a gun on his ass the first thing he would say would be O MY GOD!!!!!!

Funny, but so true.
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There’s this thing i’ve observed, and that is the inexplicable and often unconscious fear theists or religious people tend to have for atheists,especially in less educated or less civilized societies,it’s therefore not surprising the haste with which atheists are linked to crimes and wrongdoings although history clearly tells the opposite story, what i find very annoying however is their inability to provide substantiated proofs to such baseless accusations.


Baseless? Name one communist gov. that was not ATHEIST! And they killed 160 million people - plus the ones who died today!

I notice you have problems when it comes to dealing with reality.
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#84 - Posted 21 February 2010, 2:00 AM
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No atheist has any MORAL grounds for any ethics. No God - you make your own ethics.
Agreed? No moral absolutes.
Agreed?

You make your own. Some good. Most bad.

160 MILLION dead at hands of ATHEISTS! Agreed?

I know you hate that fact but it is a fact - you can reject it but it remnains a fact!

1 BILLION people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world bu CHRISTIANS.

Fact!


All societies and communities make their own morals. Morality did not spawn itself from religion. Morality is just a consensus amongst the majority of people of what is considered ethical conduct and unethical conduct.

It's wrong to kill because we ourselves would not like to be killed.
It's wrong to steal because we ourselves would not like to be robbed.
Etc...

Don't really need religion to come to that conclusion.

Where exactly did you pull this repeated 160 million dead at the hands of atheists from?
Edited on 2/21/2010 2:04 AM by mandouafrika.
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#85 - Posted 21 February 2010, 2:18 AM
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No atheists in a fox hole!


i have heard thet line 100's of times.

As a man who has seen action and has been shot at I can categorically state that the line it is a Falase argument.
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160 MILLION dead at hands of ATHEISTS! Agreed?


if you agree that those people were killed by despotic rulers and their actions had nothing to do with atheism.

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1 BILLION people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world bu CHRISTIANS.

Fact!

Really? 1 billion? Where? when?

1 billion people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world by people who's only reason for doing it was because they were Christians?

i really doubt it. but i suppose you will provide proof. Just like you have shown eveidence of the existence of a deity.
Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry.
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#87 - Posted 21 February 2010, 2:26 AM
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Still waiting for the evidence of the existence of a deity.

A photo, a video, a tape recording....anything.

For a supreme being he sure does have issues. He seems to be afraid to show it's face in public.
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#88 - Posted 21 February 2010, 2:29 AM
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160 MILLION dead at hands of ATHEISTS! Agreed?


if you agree that those people were killed by despotic rulers and their actions had nothing to do with atheism.

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greenpeace2 previously said:
1 BILLION people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world bu CHRISTIANS.

Fact!

Really? 1 billion? Where? when?

1 billion people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world by people who's only reason for doing it was because they were Christians?

i really doubt it. but i suppose you will provide proof. Just like you have shown eveidence of the existence of a deity.


Atheism by definition cannot be directly or indirectly attributed to the death of anyone because it is not a religious doctrine or dogma. Thus there are no tenets to follow that could lead to the murder of innocents or otherwise like Islam,Christianity or Judaism.
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No atheist has any MORAL grounds for any ethics. No God - you make your own ethics.
Agreed? No moral absolutes.
Agreed?

You make your own. Some good. Most bad.

160 MILLION dead at hands of ATHEISTS! Agreed?

I know you hate that fact but it is a fact - you can reject it but it remnains a fact!

1 BILLION people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world bu CHRISTIANS.

Fact!


All societies and communities make their own morals. Morality did not spawn itself from religion. Morality is just a consensus amongst the majority of people of what is considered ethical conduct and unethical conduct.

It's wrong to kill because we ourselves would not like to be killed.
It's wrong to steal because we ourselves would not like to be robbed.
Etc...

Don't really need religion to come to that conclusion.

Where exactly did you pull this repeated 160 million dead at the hands of atheists from?


Good question:

here is one site - research by a scholar

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

MPORTANT NOTE: Among all the democide estimates appearing in this book, some have been revised upward. I have changed that for Mao's famine, 1958-1962, from zero to 38,000,000. And thus I have had to change the overall democide for the PRC (1928-1987) from 38,702,000 to 76,702,000. Details here.

I have changed my estimate for colonial democide from 870,000 to an additional 50,000,000. Details here.

Thus, the new world total: old total 1900-1999 = 174,000,000. New World total = 174,000,000 + 38,000,000 (new for China) + 50,000,000 (new for Colonies) = 262,000,000.

Just to give perspective on this incredible murder by government, if all these bodies were laid head to toe, with the average height being 5', then they would circle the earth ten times. Also, this democide murdered 6 times more people than died in combat in all the foreign and internal wars of the century. Finally, given popular estimates of the dead in a major nuclear war, this total democide is as though such a war did occur, but with its dead spread over a century.

In total, during the first eighty-eight years of this century, almost 170,000,000 men, women, and children have been shot, beaten, tortured, knifed, burned, starved, frozen, crushed, or worked to death; or buried alive, drowned, hung, bombed, or killed in any other of the myriad ways governments have inflicted death on unarmed, helpless citizens or foreigners. The dead even could conceivably be near 360,000,000 people. This is as though our species has been devastated by a modern Black Plague. And indeed it has, but a plague of Power and not germs.
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#90 - Posted 21 February 2010, 9:02 AM
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160 MILLION dead at hands of ATHEISTS! Agreed?


if you agree that those people were killed by despotic rulers and their actions had nothing to do with atheism.

Quote:
greenpeace2 previously said:
1 BILLION people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world bu CHRISTIANS.

Fact!

Really? 1 billion? Where? when?

1 billion people fed, clothed, educated, helped in medic clinics around the world by people who's only reason for doing it was because they were Christians?

i really doubt it. but i suppose you will provide proof. Just like you have shown eveidence of the existence of a deity.


Atheism by definition cannot be directly or indirectly attributed to the death of anyone because it is not a religious doctrine or dogma. Thus there are no tenets to follow that could lead to the murder of innocents or otherwise like Islam,Christianity or Judaism.


You are so very wrong. Atheism has serious repercussions:

1. No God - no basis for morality
2. No - God - Leads to each person deciding what is right/wrong based on their feelings. If it feels right it must be right.
3. No God - definite conclusion is humans are really well developed animals, but still ANIMALS with no soul

There are plenty of documents proving the effect of Atheism - what logic did Atheist Stalin (and others) use to justify the death on 10's of millions? (Ukraine 10-11 million starved as they would not give up their land for the common good of the USSR) Very simple. No God, man has no soul, he is like a cow expendable. So for the common good we kill 100,000 cows because some have mad cow disease. We starve 10 million people so their land can belong to all people.

Anyone who cannot see the connection, or refuses to see the connection, between the 160 MILLION killed by Atheists is being willfully ignorant.

The respect for human life as more than an animal, as having a soul, is Bible based - and that is why in the Western world with a Christian foundation there is respect for individuals and human life.

NO, not all Atheists are killers, but it is no co-incidence that all ATHEIST governments, without exception, killed wantonly millions of their own people - and the logic was based on NO GOD and NO SOUL - man is animal and expendable.
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