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2010 Census, Arizona Law, and the 1924 Immigration Restriction Act
2010 Census, Arizona Law, and the 1924 Immigration Restriction Act

While attending class at Brooklyn College in 2008, my professor of U.S. Immigration History, Phil Napoli, made me read "Working towards Whiteness," a book about how Italian, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans immigrants, long considered non-white, became white. The recent anti-illegal immigrant bill passed in Arizona plus the 2010 Census has brought memories of this book for me and has given me the suspicions that there may be a conspiracy being hatch to divide Hispanics according to race rather than maintain them as an ethnicity.

This new anti-illegal immigration laws passed in Arizona has precedents in US history and that was the 1924 Immigration restriction act. The latter aimed at controlling immigrants to maintain the country "white." However, "White" back them, meant Americans of North Western Europeans descent (English, Irish, German, French, and Dutch,) not the broad all encompassing Caucasian term for all white skin Americans today (excluding Hispanic whites.)

In the late 19th and early 20th century a belief took hold that became prominent amongst some experts and even president Theodore Roosevelt himself; that non-white immigrants (Italians, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans) after a few generations could and would shed their cultures and Americanize/become white. Natives whites believed that Italians, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans needed to be control given that by the 1920’s these populations combined outnumbered the old-white Americans. The framers of the 1924 immigration restrictions had the intention of restricting people they did not considered white but it seemed to have another side effect. The 1924 anti immigration laws accomplished both, (1) containing the growth of non-Northern European Americans so as not to alter the dominant Anglo-Saxon society, and (2) Americanizing (Anglo-Saxoning) the new immigrants and turning them into the white Caucasians we know today while they remain small in numbers in their different ethnicities.

Now why is any of this important, relevant or connected to our world today?

The implications and connections between Italians, Jews, Magyars, Eastern Europeans immigrants and Hispanics in this essay are based on the similar political and socio economic realities both of these groups shared a mere century apart. The latest census, in my opinion, and those of you who filled it out would agree that the US is forcing Hispanics to choose a side; either you're a white or black of Hispanic background. There will be no third (brown) race in the U.S.; America will remain a black or white nation. The laws in Arizona could be a similar attempt that could perhaps be motivate by the secret plot to Americanize/divide all the Hispanics in the country, as was done with the southern and Eastern European in the 1920’s; as it is evident in continuing growth of the Hispanic population in the united states and as the second, third, and fourth regeneration of Hispanics whom no longer can identify with any Latin American nation.

Source for the information above:
• 2010 census
• Arizona anti illegal immigration law
• Working towards Whiteness (How America's Immigrant became white)
Edited on 4/27/2010 2:34 PM by CarlosFranco.
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#2 - Posted 26 April 2010, 7:27 AM
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So why is this Thread by CArlos not voted down. It is not about the DR!
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Green ,though I agree with many of your comments the problem is that you and some others tend to flood the board effectively making it your board ,if it was at least in the right area nobody could complain although some people will always have problems with your point of view because they are either left wing radicals or Christ hating atheists .So pleas follow the rules and post in the correct areas
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Green ,though I agree with many of your comments the problem is that you and some others tend to flood the board effectively making it your board ,if it was at least in the right area nobody could complain although some people will always have problems with your point of view because they are either left wing radicals or Christ hating atheists .So pleas follow the rules and post in the correct areas

Here is what it says- it seems that all who voted me down for posting in the wrong place CANNOT READ!

The main forum, where you can discuss anything related to the Dominican Republic, chat about off-topic stuff and meet the people of DominicanToday.com

Above is what DT has said this sectionis for. OFF TOPIC - ie. anything and everything.
Censorship reflects society's (made up of a few ignorant forum posters) lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime. Potter Stewart "The fool has said in his heart no-God"
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#5 - Posted 26 April 2010, 5:26 PM
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Quote:
Pepe32 previously said:

Green ,though I agree with many of your comments the problem is that you and some others tend to flood the board effectively making it your board ,if it was at least in the right area nobody could complain although some people will always have problems with your point of view because they are either left wing radicals or Christ hating atheists .So pleas follow the rules and post in the correct areas

Here is what it says- it seems that all who voted me down for posting in the wrong place CANNOT READ!

The main forum, where you can discuss anything related to the Dominican Republic, chat about off-topic stuff and meet the people of DominicanToday.com

Above is what DT has said this sectionis for. OFF TOPIC - ie. anything and everything.


So greenpeace2, what do you think of the posting above...
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1. The General Section is for OFF TOPIC STUFF -that is for anything and everything - so many of the Threads there - dozens at this time - are on none DR topics
2. Any posts about Obama and the USA is very relevant to the DR - andonly an idiot would say otherwise.

Obama farts and the whole world smells it!
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Carlos,As for the article and discussion - I have laughed for years and joked about this:

1. The US Spanish wars - the US takes California, New Mexico and lower parts of what is not the USA away from Mexico.
2. 100 years later they have taken it all back with hardly a shot fired!

Very funny! And a movie you have got to see is a Day Without A Mexican - based on a rapture and all the Latinos in CA dissappear - by 24 hours later all is chaos and nothing works....

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#8 - Posted 26 April 2010, 9:44 PM
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Carlos,As for the article and discussion - I have laughed for years and joked about this:

1. The US Spanish wars - the US takes California, New Mexico and lower parts of what is not the USA away from Mexico.
2. 100 years later they have taken it all back with hardly a shot fired!

Very funny! And a movie you have got to see is a Day Without A Mexican - based on a rapture and all the Latinos in CA dissappear - by 24 hours later all is chaos and nothing works....




I have not seen that movie... your comment does not provide any answers to the implications I made in the essay... please read it, it's only a page long!
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#9 - Posted 26 April 2010, 9:44 PM
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RE: 2010 Census, Arizona Law, and the 1924 Immigration Restriction Act
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greenpeace2 previously said:

Carlos,As for the article and discussion - I have laughed for years and joked about this:

1. The US Spanish wars - the US takes California, New Mexico and lower parts of what is not the USA away from Mexico.
2. 100 years later they have taken it all back with hardly a shot fired!

Very funny! And a movie you have got to see is a Day Without A Mexican - based on a rapture and all the Latinos in CA dissappear - by 24 hours later all is chaos and nothing works....




I have not seen that movie... your comment does not provide any answers to the implications I made in the essay... please read it, it's only a page long!
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2010 Census, Arizona Law, and the 1924 Immigration Restriction Act

While attending class at Brooklyn College in 2008, my professor of U.S. Immigration History, Phil Napoli, made me read "Working towards Whiteness," a book about how Italian, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans immigrants, long considered non-white, became white. The recent anti-illegal immigrant bill passed in Arizona plus the 2010 Census has brought memories of this book for me and has given me the suspicions that there may be a conspiracy being hatch to divide Hispanics according to race rather than maintain them as an ethnicity.

This new anti-illegal immigration laws passed in Arizona has precedents in US history and that was the 1924 Immigration restriction act. The latter aimed at controlling immigrants to maintain the country "white." However, "White" back them, meant Americans of North Western Europeans descent (English, Irish, German, French, and Dutch,) not the broad all encompassing Caucasian term for all white skin Americans today (excluding Hispanic whites.)

In the late 19th and early 20th century a belief took hold that became prominent amongst some experts and even president Theodore Roosevelt himself; that non-white immigrants (Italians, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans) after a few generations could and would shed their cultures and Americanize/become white. Natives whites believed that Italians, Jews, Magyars, and Eastern Europeans needed to be control given that by the 1920’s these populations combined outnumbered the old-white Americans. The framers of the 1924 immigration restrictions had the intention of restricting people they did not considered white but it seemed to have another side effect. The 1924 anti immigration laws accomplished both, (1) containing the growth of non-Northern European Americans so as not to alter the dominant Anglo-Saxon society, and (2) Americanizing (Anglo-Saxoning) the new immigrants and turning them into the white Caucasians we know today while they remain small in numbers in their different ethnicities.

Now why is any of this important, relevant or connected to our world today?

The implications and connections between Italians, Jews, Magyars, Eastern Europeans immigrants and Hispanics in this essay are based on the similar political and socio economic realities both of these groups shared a mere century apart. The latest census, in my opinion, and those of you who filled it out would agree that the US is forcing Hispanics to choose a side; either you're a white or black of Hispanic background. There will be no third (brown) race in the U.S.; America will remain a black or white nation. The laws in Arizona could be a similar attempt that could perhaps be motivate by the secret plot to Americanize/divide all the Hispanics in the country, as was done with the southern and Eastern European in the 1920’s; as it is evident in continuing growth of the Hispanic population in the united states and as the second, third, and fourth regeneration of Hispanics whom no longer can identify with any Latin American nation.

Source for the information above:
• 2010 census
• Arizona anti illegal immigration law
• Working towards Whiteness (How America's Immigrant became white)


Great post.
Quite informative too.
I appreciate your effort.


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