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Cabarete although I will side with you on this one, it is and remains a serious topic, where people take things to heart, therefore no need for ridicule or sarcasm. When in disagreement, a simple NO and your reasons for your differences of opinion will be sufficient. It will help you gain some followers and supporters on this forum.

Nevertheless, for the poster who labeled biblical principles a fairy tale and evolution as fact, allow me to advise that "Darwinism" has always been taught as a theory, although the educational system convinced of its validity made it appear as if it were a proven scientific fact when in reality it is not. Above a hypothesis, evolution remains a theory that has not been fully proven. It is a proposed explanation of empirical phenomena, where tests and analysis have been perform to give it weight, but not enough to validate and justify it to be undisputable scientific knowledge.

This is definitely a sensitive topic that needs to be treated with the utmost care. In my veiw on this there are just some things that science cannot explain nor create a rational thought. To the huaman psyche some things will forever remain incomprehensible and the subject of sex or creating is one of them. In my mind it is what it is when it comes down to stuff like this. I am not coming from a Christian point of veiw but I do regard it to be something sacred and not to be taken for granted. I love the beauty of intimacy but in my veiw there are some things science cannot fully explain.

I was taught in my school days in Science class how to conduct a "scientific experiment".
If I remember correctly: You have
#1. Make an observation,
#2. question the observation
#3 Conduct and experiment.
#4 Conclusion

Much of what we call science today is based much on assumed hypothesis and theory which doesn't necessarilly prove anything. To go beyond personal experience and first hand witnessing, or without indisputable trusted documentaion is fallible in too many respects.

In summary its political propaganda. Scientits when they come up with explanations as per to how organisms or how a phenomenon comes to be, they create gaps in between their social political analysis. The rational mind doesn't always create all of the solutions as per attaining a clear view on the subject matter nor does it explains things that are supposedly unseen. Such as how can some one explain to a child how children are brought forth? The process when a man gives apart of him self to his wife, you know the part we dont get to see and nine months later omggg here comes the baby!!! Now that would be a real challenge.

EXACTLY PROFESSOR, EXACTLY

As much as we are taught otherwise, some things we have just got to take at face value.

Less pain and more pleasure


Shedding our penis spines helped us become human, DNA study hints

Genetic comparison with chimps suggests that losing chunks of DNA – including one associated with penis spines and facial whiskers – played a crucial role in making us human



* Ian Sample, science correspondent
* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 9 March 2011 18.00 GMT
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Chimpanzees waiting to be fed The secret of human brain power and social structures may owe more to lost DNA than anything else. Photograph: Gert Janssen/EPA

Scientists have identified a clutch of subtle genetic changes that have shaped our minds and bodies into the unique form that sets humans apart from chimpanzees and the rest of the animal kingdom.

The work by researchers in the US represents a landmark in a search that has occupied philosophers and scientists for millennia and one that goes to the heart of understanding what it means to be human.

The findings offer up the humbling conclusion that the secret of human success may owe more to what we lost along the path of evolution, rather than anything we gained.

When the human genome was first deciphered more than a decade ago, some scientists expected to find extra genes that explained why humans had an intellectual edge over their closest living relatives and other species. But since diverging from chimpanzees around seven million years ago, it turns out that our human ancestors lost several hundred snippets of DNA, which together led to traits that are uniquely human, the researchers claim.

In ditching these chunks of DNA, our ancient ancestors lost facial whiskers and short, tactile spines on their penises. The latter development is thought to have paved the way for more intimate sex and monogamous relationships. The loss of other DNA may have been crucial in allowing humans to grow larger brains.

Intriguingly, hardly any of the lost DNA was from genes, which make the proteins that are the building blocks of life. Instead, the missing DNA came from areas of the genome that regulate where and when certain genes are active.

"Like someone looking for their keys under a lamp post, the genes were the easiest place to look for differences between humans and chimpanzees, and in many respects those have been studied pretty well," said Philip Reno, a co-author on the study at Penn State University.

"But there is a larger unknown in the form of these other regions of DNA, and in those we are only just beginning to find ways to pull out the differences between humans and chimpanzees."

In the years since the human genome project was completed it has become clear that humans and chimps share around 96% of their DNA. Of the three billion pairs of "letters" that make up the human genetic code, genes account for less than 2%.

The US team compared the complete human genome with sequences from the chimp, macaque and mouse. They found that humans lack 510 short sections of DNA that are present in the other animals. Intriguingly, only one missing piece of DNA affected a human gene directly. The vast majority of lost DNA disrupted parts of the genome that control how genes are expressed.

One missing section of DNA was found to block a gene that, in other animals, stifles the growth of brain cells. Losing that DNA may have been a pivotal moment in human development, as it allowed parts of the human brain to expand into the most complex organ known.

Writing in the journal Nature, the researchers describe how our ancestors lost another piece of DNA that gives rise to both facial whiskers and sensitive spines on the tip of the penis, both of which are found in chimpanzees and other non-human primates.

Penile spines – which make the penis more sensitive and speed ejaculation – are more common in animals that face intense competition for mates, and where females are likely to mate with many males in rapid succession.

The loss of penile spines may have allowed our ancient ancestors to copulate for longer, a development thought to have nurtured monogamous couples and paved the way for more complex social structures.

When the scientists checked their genetic discoveries against the Neanderthal genome, they found the same chunks of DNA were missing, meaning the DNA was lost more than 800,000 years ago, which is when our human ancestors split from the Neanderthal lineage.

The scientists are still working out what many of the lost sections of DNA do, but expect to find more evidence of how humans differ genetically from chimpanzees.

"There are going to be many different features that make humans unique and I don't think we're close to describing all the links between genes that make us different from chimpanzees," said Reno. "We are just getting the initial picture."

sometimes you just have to exept things the way they are. sex is the dominant form of reproduction and it doesnt matter why ! what other way would you like it ? FORGET I ASKED THAT !

To me one of the main issues I have with Evolution is that it tends to lower the greatness of human beings and all the wonderful things we are capable of and in essence just demotes us to being just 'animals'. Yet we are clearly far more than just animals as we display qualities unique to any other animal.
Even if I did not believe in God I would have a very hard time believing that all of the exact, precise organization that is found on ALL levels of live and in space just came about from a random event. If you take a bomb and blow up a building, another organized building does not appear after the destruction. Chaos in its most natural essence does not beget organization and precision.
The Sun just so happens to be the right distance from the Earth. One mile closer it would be too hot, one mile further away it would be to cold. The Earth is tilt just so and spins just so, so as to allow for day and night and seasons which in turn ensure that plants can grow and provide food for animals and humankind. And the list just goes on and on and on.
If you see a masterful painting, the first thought you think is, "Who painted this beautiful painting?" because logically you know that the painting under any circumstance could NEVER have just come to exist. The celestial bodies in Space, the Earth, Plants, Insects, Animals, Humans, Natural Forces are WAY more complex and 'masterful' than ANY painting any human could create, so to me its only right to give the credit to a/the creator. I can only imagine how I would feel if I took months painting a masterpiece only to have people look at it and conclude that it just randomly came to be.