| #51 - Posted 21 August 2008, 8:46 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: amoree previously said: Well I can respect that. The one-drop rule is foreign to most of Latin America. Some would say it's reverse as in the one-drop White rule.. LOL...either way it's senseless. Everyone should be proud of their lineages and should be able to claim all of them if they're aware of it. Unfortunately, that's just not the case for Blacks in America. It's changing slowly but I wouldn't hold my breath. I can't say much about the Congressional Black Caucus just yet. I know Obama makes it public that he is mixed. His words went something like this: My father is from Kenya and my mother is White American. My wife has the blood of African slaves running through her veins. So even he made a point in making a difference between himself and his wife.. But the truth is.. There is a difference..Doesn't make one better than the other.. You know what I mean? Yes, but the point is that almost everyone here on the DR and the US have yet to learn the exercise of agreeing to disagree. I find it amusing to see such inability on US society, specially when this one has as its favorite exercise the pointing of their fingers to the Lat Am and other Third World societies on the "lack of democracy" of their respective societies. That some truths, like the definitions of beauty and ugliness, will always depend on the eye of the beholder. Edited on 8/21/2008 8:51 AM by Lautaro. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #52 - Posted 21 August 2008, 8:50 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2008 Member #: 269 Posts: 64 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Oh so true Lautaro, U.S. is Hypocrite #1.. all the double standards we have in this country, please. _____________________________ Made in the USA |
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| #53 - Posted 21 August 2008, 8:56 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2008 Member #: 269 Posts: 64 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Lautaro, Read the comments from this.. This article is quite friendly compared to some I've read.. Pay particular attention to the comment made by Cynic 2. I think that was a wonderful point being made. What do you think? http://current.com/items/89113433_black_denial_in_the_dominican_republic _____________________________ Made in the USA |
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| #54 - Posted 21 August 2008, 8:56 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: amoree previously said: Oh so true Lautaro, U.S. is Hypocrite #1.. all the double standards we have in this country, please. My fear is that US politics right now are very dependent on the state of the international arena. Imagine, it only took Russia's attack on Georgia for McCain's candidacy to get a sorely needed push. We could be watching a reenactment of the 2000 electoral quagmire for all we know. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #55 - Posted 21 August 2008, 9:07 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: amoree previously said: Lautaro, Read the comments from this.. This article is quite friendly compared to some I've read.. Pay particular attention to the comment made by Cynic 2. I think that was a wonderful point being made. What do you think? http://current.com/items/89113433_black_denial_in_the_dominican_republic You're right. Even the comments were pretty much balanced (except for aunubian, who of course had to make the same ignorant rant that some AA's do about the "enslaved mentality" bs). “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #56 - Posted 21 August 2008, 9:25 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2008 Member #: 269 Posts: 64 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Honestly Lautaro, Now you live in the DR.. do they really have ads in the paper that look for lighter skinned people with good hair?? Are all these people lying on the DR..This is more for USADR.. she made a comment about the articles online..I can give you at least 50 articles claiming the racism in the DR.. so it's not unheard of.. it does exist.. I just don't believe that it speaks for all Dominicans because I know Dominicans in the DR that don't have that mentality. Just like all Blacks don't think that Dominicans are Africans trying to pass for Indian.. I think most people of color have issues.. But that's my opinion..When Black Americans can stop saying good hair and bad hair then they can point the finger at someone else. Even white people say it now. Especially those with mixed children. And not putting a relaxer in your hair doesn't make you an African. Especially when many African women relax their hair. My African friends aren't trying to be White, they just want some manageability like most women that relax their hair. I went to Puerto Rico and I see the hypocrisy there too.. LOL.. every single store you go to has an isle with relaxers and so-called "black hair" products.. Even those that are Indios relax their hair..LOL..it's just funny to me.. If you want an afro, relaxer, dreadlock, or curly.. you shouldn't be discriminated against. It's NONSENSE! _____________________________ Made in the USA |
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| #57 - Posted 21 August 2008, 9:38 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: amoree previously said: Honestly Lautaro, Now you live in the DR.. do they really have ads in the paper that look for lighter skinned people with good hair?? Are all these people lying on the DR..This is more for USADR.. she made a comment about the articles online..I can give you at least 50 articles claiming the racism in the DR.. so it's not unheard of.. it does exist.. I just don't believe that it speaks for all Dominicans because I know Dominicans in the DR that don't have that mentality. Just like all Blacks don't think that Dominicans are Africans trying to pass for Indian.. I think most people of color have issues.. But that's my opinion..When Black Americans can stop saying good hair and bad hair then they can point the finger at someone else. Even white people say it now. Especially those with mixed children. And not putting a relaxer in your hair doesn't make you an African. Especially when many African women relax their hair. My African friends aren't trying to be White, they just want some manageability like most women that relax their hair. I went to Puerto Rico and I see the hypocrisy there too.. LOL.. every single store you go to has an isle with relaxers and so-called "black hair" products.. Even those that are Indios relax their hair..LOL..it's just funny to me.. If you want an afro, relaxer, dreadlock, or curly.. you shouldn't be discriminated against. It's NONSENSE! I agree wholeheartedly with that. About the newspaper ads, the only thing that I've seen that is remotely akin to that is the "buena presencia" (good-looking) requirement, so I think that have more to do with the specific whim of the employer, IMHO. Also, I think that a lot of things need to be relaxed over here, for example, it's an utterly annoying thing the requirement of wearing suits and ties to go into some workplaces with a climate as humid as this, aargh. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #58 - Posted 21 August 2008, 9:45 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2008 Member #: 269 Posts: 64 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Oh yes... It's hot alright! Except in January.. it's almost cold at night...at least in Santo Domingo.. Where part are you from Lautaro? Have you been to the states as of yet? _____________________________ Made in the USA |
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| #59 - Posted 21 August 2008, 10:01 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4359 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: amoree previously said: Oh yes... It's hot alright! Except in January.. it's almost cold at night...at least in Santo Domingo.. Where part are you from Lautaro? Have you been to the states as of yet? I'm a capitaleño, with cibaeño ascendancy from my father's side and southern (banilejo) ascendancy from my mother's side. Yes, I have been to the states, specially on NY, NJ and Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, I have yet to meet the West and the unsavory South. “Since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.” Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| #60 - Posted 21 August 2008, 10:44 AM | |
Location: United States, Newark, NJ Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1042 Posts: 366 | RE: Question regarding Sammy Sosa Quote: USADR previously said: No offense taken, I know that the Cibao region is the most populous. But during my one year stay in DR, I think the South is very mixed looking . Based on a post by Cibaeno, I think the stereotype in the Cibao about Surenos is that they are all mulattos wich is not far from the truth. I didn't travel all thru the south, but from Bani to San Juan and Las Matas De Farfan and surrounding campos, I saw alot of mixed and indio types . Bani has an ultra white area and my family there explained the historical reasons (my family is originially from San Juan) Why is the South so poor and underdeveloped? USADR, you are absolutely right about the ethnic makeup that you saw in the places mentioned above. Just curious, did you also go to Azua, where people there also tend to be white or "Taino-looking"? |
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