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#1 - Posted 22 June 2010, 8:44 PM
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Homosexuality is natural (evolutionary), Nothing wrong with it like delusionals claim.



The Biblical objection to homosexuality is hypocritical, because those who condemn it do not condemn just as vigorously other prohibited behaviors such as wearing clothing made of two kinds of material (Lev. 19: 19), trimming or shaving sideburns (Lev. 19: 27), getting tattoos (Lev. 19: 28), and charging interest (Deut. 23: 19-20). People who condemn homosexuality do so not because the Bible tells them to, but, ultimately, because they want to. People who condemn others should first examine the morality of their own judgments.
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#2 - Posted 22 June 2010, 9:38 PM
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RE: Homosexuality is a "Sin"
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The Biblical objection to homosexuality is hypocritical, because those who condemn it do not condemn just as vigorously other prohibited behaviors such as wearing clothing made of two kinds of material (Lev. 19: 19), trimming or shaving sideburns (Lev. 19: 27), getting tattoos (Lev. 19: 28), and charging interest (Deut. 23: 19-20). People who condemn homosexuality do so not because the Bible tells them to, but, ultimately, because they want to. People who condemn others should first examine the morality of their own judgments.


i see you've decided to come out of the closet, now you can be part of Los Dueños del Circo!
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#3 - Posted 22 June 2010, 10:07 PM
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RE: Homosexuality is a "Sin"
Learn the diff. between the OT and the New Testament.

The latter governs Christians.

It condemns Homosexuality. The while world knows it is against nature.

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


That is the NT - which mentions nothing about clothes - but the above is clear!
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#4 - Posted 22 June 2010, 10:30 PM
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Learn the diff. between the OT and the New Testament.

The latter governs Christians.

It condemns Homosexuality. The while world knows it is against nature.

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


That is the NT - which mentions nothing about clothes - but the above is clear!


So I guess Christians should rip apart the entire OT , since "it isn't the word of God anymore". Common please that's a typical excuses that you guys have when someone shoves the OT in your faces.

One example of all the contradictions going in the Bible is the famous (Matthew 1:2-17 and Luke 3:23-38) where they can't even agree on who the father of Joseph was, and that's clearly the NT not the old so there's no excuses. And please don't say that the genealogy in Luke is actually Mary's, because in Luke 3:23 it says explicitly that it is Joseph's genealogy.


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#5 - Posted 23 June 2010, 2:19 AM
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RE: Homosexuality is a "Sin"
Gee how did I know the first one to lash out would be our resident right wing nazi??? Well crazy Christians do follow the same pattern of behavior which is to chastize others because they are holier than thou....Ateo there is a lot of BS in the religious establishments all over the world, especially our right wing Christian brothers and sisters.....Wolves in sheeps clothing???YESSSS...Chilindrino stop been an ass, your probably the gayest one of the all...Ateo you are free to believe whatever you want to believe, I think that the religious freaks need to take a chill pill and just let people be.
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Gee how did I know the first one to lash out would be our resident right wing nazi??? Well crazy Christians do follow the same pattern of behavior which is to chastize others because they are holier than thou....Ateo there is a lot of BS in the religious establishments all over the world, especially our right wing Christian brothers and sisters.....Wolves in sheeps clothing???YESSSS...Chilindrino stop been an ass, your probably the gayest one of the all...Ateo you are free to believe whatever you want to believe, I think that the religious freaks need to take a chill pill and just let people be.


who cares?
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#7 - Posted 23 June 2010, 11:41 AM
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Gee how did I know the first one to lash out would be our resident right wing nazi??? Well crazy Christians do follow the same pattern of behavior which is to chastize others because they are holier than thou....Ateo there is a lot of BS in the religious establishments all over the world, especially our right wing Christian brothers and sisters.....Wolves in sheeps clothing???YESSSS...Chilindrino stop been an ass, your probably the gayest one of the all...Ateo you are free to believe whatever you want to believe, I think that the religious freaks need to take a chill pill and just let people be.


Sajomero, I'm glad to see Dominicans like you think the same way as me about religion.
Ignore you know who, he/ she? is just an immature person. There's has to be a way of liberating countries like ours from the catholic church, too much power to much ignorance. But as always when the Catholics aren't the ones with all the power then it's the so called "protestants" or evangelicals, who claim to have the "true words of God".

I'm 100% Heterosexual, but I fully respect the rights of anyone on this planet to be with the person of the same sex. The church has being trying everything they possible can to harm the image of homosexuality, and is not because it says it in their Bible but is because of homophobia very simple.
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#8 - Posted 23 June 2010, 12:30 PM
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Gee how did I know the first one to lash out would be our resident right wing nazi??? Well crazy Christians do follow the same pattern of behavior which is to chastize others because they are holier than thou....Ateo there is a lot of BS in the religious establishments all over the world, especially our right wing Christian brothers and sisters.....Wolves in sheeps clothing???YESSSS...Chilindrino stop been an ass, your probably the gayest one of the all...Ateo you are free to believe whatever you want to believe, I think that the religious freaks need to take a chill pill and just let people be.


Sajomero, I'm glad to see Dominicans like you think the same way as me about religion.
Ignore you know who, he/ she? is just an immature person. There's has to be a way of liberating countries like ours from the catholic church, too much power to much ignorance. But as always when the Catholics aren't the ones with all the power then it's the so called "protestants" or evangelicals, who claim to have the "true words of God".

I'm 100% Homosexual tuti fruti, and I fully respect the rights of anyone on this planet to be with the person of the same sex. The church has being trying everything they possible can to harm the image of homosexuality, and is not because it says it in their Bible but is because of homophobia very simple.


I agree, you should become a spokesman for the gay community in the Dominican Republic.

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The church has being trying everything they possible can to harm the image of homosexuality, and is not because it says it in their Bible but is because of homophobia very simple.



"because of homophobia very simple"

1. You say the Bible does not condemn homosexuality as a perversion? Can you read? Can you comprehend WHAT you read? Pure and simple the Bible says:

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness....
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools....

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. (Lesbian acts)

In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. (Homosexual acts!)

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

The last is an amazing and accurate description of modern society now that it has accept homo as normal and not a perversion. God gives societies (and people) UP and gives them over to stupidity!


2. The Bible (and followers of Christ) also condemn fornication, adultry, stealing etc. Does that make me PHOBIC just because I agree with God and the BIble? You throw out "homophobic" whenthat word is MEANINGLESS. Just becuase I oppose it does not mean I am afraid of it/them.

In Canada by favorite neighbor was the homosexual next door - my daughter had her wedding photos shot in his very nice back yard. He knew my position. I accept him as a person, I disagree with some of his lifestyle choices.


ateo2010, go ahead and take any position you want with respect to homosexuals. But do not say stupid things about what the Bible does and does not say. Just read the above and that is only ONE passage!
Do not put words in God's mouth or take them away. He gets real upset when you try to do that!

3. The Old Testament clearly states that it is temporary. The New Testament makes th eOT null and void as a governing document. That is why we eat bacon! Jesus came as the New Agreement (Covenant/Testament) lawgiver and teacher. That is who we follow and the NT
i) soundly condmens all sin, including sexual imorality, homosexuality, fornication,adultry etc.
ii) the OT death penalty for sins was dropped (excpet for murder -which is according to the nT a gov. responsibility) as are all other ISrael specific laws.
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#10 - Posted 23 June 2010, 1:05 PM
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To me the bible is the biggest joke ever written! It was written by men for the benefit of men!!! I just love to see the jesus freaks FREAK out when someone says something negative about the "holly book" hahahahaha.

Let the gays be damn it!

On another somewhat related topic...why do you think there are soooooooo many Dominican men (and for that fact many men but I say Dominican men because of how much power the Catholic church has in the country) that live behind the closed doors of "the closet" ??? It's because they are shit scared of what the priest might think. Because of what society might think. I know a few gay dudes that tell me some wild stories about their sexcapades with married men in the DR. JUST FREAKIN' HORRIBLE!!!

Again...let the gays be gays!!!
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