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The sad thing about this, cibaeño, is that the guy is actually an old man, and it's assumed (at least on our beloved Caribbean), that old folks know better and are not supposed to vent their frustrations as easily as we young folks are prone to do from time to time.

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The people on this site appear to be so hopeless and are only prone to Circular Verbal Masturbation which never amount to any kind of closure on any issues.

Thus I have long realized this site was a waste of time and energy since you never see people on here come to any conclusion, solution or agreement that could push the Island forward towards better amicable relations since both people are stuck in their own pride and prejudice to add with anger, hatred which is quite obvious and apparent in the heart of both people. I am so ashamed to have had been so unfortunate to have had the blood of both people in me that I no longer consider to have been a blessing anymore because both Dominicans and Haitians are poor, ignorant people with no true sense of rationality period.

It is sadly a pure shame at its purest.

Did you get to see Yucatán? I've heard that it's an excellent place for anyone that loves to get into ecotourism.

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[COLOR=#ED1C24]My apologies if you believe that when I said that we would take them over by no way did I mean enslaving them or oppressed them perhaps I should have used my word more carefully but what I meant to say was that we would have better influenced them culturally instead of them being influenced by the European as they are today. If we wanted to conquered the Carribean and every where else like you have thought then we wouldn't have helped Simon, Bolivar we would had instead reserved our troops, money and ammunition and invaded them ourselves. Again maybe you have misunderstood me. The plan was to go the other islands and expelled their oppressors give them freedom and move on. The reason things didn't turn out so well in DR is because of the constant disloyalty that we received on the parts of Dominicans. You must understand this Haiti was very unique at that time THE DOMINICANS and their false loyalties paralyzed us we couldn't mobilized our troops to another distant location when we knew that the Dominicans were constantly conniving with our enemies. The Haitian Army didn't want to set sail one day to another country and to come back and find the Dominicans and their masters retaking the whole island until we were confident that the Dominicans were loyal to the cause our presences had to be there in Santo Domingo 24/7 that's the reason why we were in your home. by no way did we want your side of the land we were just afraid that you would had ruined this great freedom that we Haitians had fought so valiantly for and of course History proves that we HAITIANS WERE RIGHT AGAIN in our ass assumption because not so longer after your independence you Dominicans gave the Island back to Spain the very thing we were afraid of/ so don't come crying to me saying that we invaded you or we enslaved you when if was you slaved mentality that caused you to not have faith in your fellow brothers. If only you DOMINICANS Had faith in us back even if you had faith in yourselves then we wouldn't even had to place troops in DR Haiti would have simply kick the Spaniards ou and we would had left the country in the hands of a faithful Dominicans Leader without having to worry about the Dominican Elites plotting against us. Yet again Haiti made the logical decision and displayed ACT: 2 LOYALTY Haiti did not let the Dominican masses down because the Dominican elites were simply worrying about themselves and regaining their relax air conditioned jobs while the Dominican nation would have eventually returned to slavery and as CARLOSFRANCO stated previous "EVENTUALLY" the DR would be set free and like I said people the people of Haiti didn't not settle for EVENTUALLY's we wanted FREEDOM and WE TOOK IT.[/COLOR]

Now wouldn't it have been better if Puerto - Rico, Cuba and the rest of LATIN AMERICA would have to answer to none other than us [B]How exacly could the rest of Latin America answered to "us" had your retarted plan worked [/B]The Haitian Dominican Republic AKA Hispaniola, Bohio Quiskeya whatever the hell you want to name it. Think about what your false sense of superiority and racism had cost us. IMAGINE Haiti having Jamaica and you Dominicans have CUBA we have Trinidad and you have Puerto Rico it could have been divided like or however else necessary. [B]I dream of Antille union... Of spanish speaking countries... but it must be done democratically not by force or else the Puerto Ricans and Cubans, and Jamaicans and Trinidarians would be haiting us to for the misery you have passed on to our side of the island... [/B]Get I Don't think we would have the whole Latin America but the surrounding islands would have definitely been ours. [B][U]unworkable plan[/U]... do you forget the British had the best navy in the world... haiti was impossible for the french because there was half a million haitians agaisnt them and were vulnerable to mosquitos.... How would have taken over other Island is an absurd idea[/B]AND because you were the cause of our premier failure I will not forgive you Dominicans ever. [B]We don't require your forgiveness!!![/B]

[COLOR=#ED1C24]The Hell with the British and their Best Naval vessels back then I'M A HAITIAN descendant of the greatest African Warriors I don't care if the Brits back then had Alien technology or some SCI-FI shit. I know my people would have been victorious because we had the WILL. unfortunately the Dominicans did not see it that way because they were AFRAID TO FIGHT for what they believe in instead they plotted with our enemies until we were brought down but KNOW THIS DOMINICANS AYITI is not yet on its knees despite of the events that you are seeing today. THE MIGHTY PHOENIX SHALL RISE AGAIN FOR THE ASHES.[/COLOR]

YOU DOMINICANS RUIN THE PLAN. and yes most of you are thinking right now maybe if the Dominicans were aware of the plan they would have played along BUT NO. YOUR ELITES COULDN"T BE TRUSTED (i.e. The Santana, Morales etc...) It had to be kept secret from your people back then due to the fact that most of your elites were allies with our enemies back then. [B]How do you justified the violence and atrocities committed by your armies against your "Brethren" ? ? ?[/B]

[COLOR=#ED1C24]Well if you were loyal to the cause in the first place like I mentioned before Dessalines wouldn't have to sack your towns. Its not like we the Haitian Army woke up one day , bored to hell and said GEE let us go razed some Dominican towns today. It wasn't like that at all. After numerous attempts by your Disloyal Elites the Haitians must had enough of their nonesense and decided instead of seeing the Dominican nation retaking by the Spanish they would rather see it in ashes and I, I, I, SON OF AYITI TOMA If the Dominicans were in our place back then I would have rather see DUARTE sacked Port-au-Prince 1 million times instead of letting fall into the hands of the French. but then again that's just me.[/COLOR]

Oh! God Dominicans what have you done? [B]Defended what was ours[/B]
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[COLOR=#ED1C24]What do you mean defend what was ours. Yours was never a concerned when I was under the oppressors why suddenly did it become a concern? You have no faith in yourself and you have no faith your race, the slave mentality is still embedded into your brain FRANCO.. You are the type of person that think that the only way something will work if its under the leadership of a whiteman. You are the type of a person that if a man of your race tells you to do something you will complain, bitch, and moan until your drop dead instead of simply comply to what was said to you but if in case it was a white men that directed you you would have only said YES with a smile and move on. Yes you are that type of person Carlos and your forefathers i.e. the Duartes and the Santana's were just like you. They wouldn't want to wok for in the field for their race but they would have gladly do it for the Caucasian race. They did not want to sweat , along side of a black men in order to accomplish something greater but they were willing to bleed for their oppressors "Spain" and for that I forever HATE your type. [/COLOR]

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Stop wanting to rewrite history for your own end... you've lost... admit it

I GET IT.... HAHAHAHA, IT'S A JOKE.... HAHA, BRILLIANT!!!!

Seriously, thanks for the laughs.

Question?

Why are we allowing Haitians to even use OUR forum to talk rubbish? Haitians: look at the website! it says...dominican today, you are not welcome, in my opinion it would be good if you just kept to your deforested, dirty, dry, poor, strife ridden, hopeless side of the island and left us alone. That would be great for all parties involved, we wouldnt exploit you and our people would have more jobs/resources for themselves. Mi gente, why do you tolerate these people, they raped and killed our families, they bayoneted babies, they poisoned wells, You know what, we should bring back the trucks and the perejil system, take a ride to the mercado nuevo and the resort towns and give some of yall haitians a free ride to where you belong. HAITI.

Copying something a smart politician said recently; When I die and go to heaven I want to go to DR on weekends!

Amo mi pais

This is for you arrogant Antonioj, there is a time to act like a child in everybodies life, and i beleive this was one of your moment to act like one, it's time to grow up old man, just because your niece married a haitian doesn't mean she has less value. Because of people like you haitian and dominican can't get over their differences and move on with life. You think that because you have a little lighter color and good hair thanks to the Spanish, that makes you better than anyone else, don't forget where you from, and your ancesters. There are dominican that have pelo malo and the rest that you said. I'm from haiti i don't have pelo malo i'm light skin color, should that give me reason to critisize dominicans pelo malo or other nations. Thank God for what he gave you and stop underappreciating people because of their race, color, hair or culture. When you have nothing better to say in this page better go and read a book, that might educate you and inform you better.

I completely agree with you afrolatino. Last night for the first time i cross this website and thought this would be something more educative, today after signing in i see that is not, there are people haitian and dominican that are still leaving the past, something that happened years ago and our grand grand parents fought for and we have today (freedom). This not slavery time anymore that is old news, this is not time to talk about my precious color or if someone smells bad or brosh their teeth well. This is a time for economic situation, forget about if i'm from haiti or dominican republic and let's solve what the country is going thru, because is a world wide crisis, and this people on this website get up in the morning with nothing better to do than gossip and create more hateful anviroment. Let me share with all of you an experience that happened to my family when i was only 5 or 6 years old. Let me begin introducing myself, I'm 27 years old i'm from haiti ( Port-au-Prince ) i currently live in Dubai.
Mid 80s when i was a little girl, i remember haiti begin a revolution,agains "papa doc" Duvalier, civilians were getting shot, students strugglin, news were bad at that time, i'm pretty sure a lot of you recall this time. At that time my mother who was worried about the safety of her 3 childrens and her own decided to move to Dominican republic, she sold our house and everything that she owned and begin the journey to the DR. After few months living in a hotel in the DR , because we didn't own a house neither we had residency at the moment. My mother the money she had would be wasted living in a hotel, so she decided to open a boutique to sell ( cloths, jewelry etc ) and rent a house, but for our bad luck we didn't know any places in the DR nor people, so the place that my mother opens her boutique was a bad area in Sto. Dgo. After a year having the boutique we got robbed, not only they robbed every marchendise we had in the boutique but the thieves went to our house that night with machete and knifes rather to kill us or scare us. Thanks God nothing happened to none of us, because when my mom heard the bang on the door and roof when the thieves were breaking the cement and door, she woke up and looked for a place to hide us. After the robbery we had nothing left even though we found a way to survive in the DR, and it took us years to lift ourselves from the grown. At a moment in time we had it all money, houses, cars everything was going perfect until the revolution and the robbery happened . I grew up having those images in my head because it was frightening for a 6 year old child to go thru a moment like that. But the most important thing i never thought of hating dominicans or haitians or any other nations, what happened happened is left in the past. Like in the DR and Haiti we can find bad people all around the world. You guys think that the majority of dominican who travel to Europe who doesn't have an education don't go thru difficult moments. I love the island is in me; but because of what happened to my family i can't hold grudge angainst people instead i move on, cont. my education, travel and find a better way to enjoy my life.