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#181 - Posted 18 August 2009, 11:36 PM
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Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark.

uhh, wrong. More like Germany considering the accordion is an important merengue instrument


You're right, plus we look more Alpine than Nordic.



More like Mediterrenean, and aren't Mediterraneans just olive-skinned nords?


We have some of those swarthy meds here, but it's mostly alpines with a smaller minority of nords.

You know I'm a troll according to some for even acknowledging you and not getting all hostile? I've been accused of being you. you complete me, you filthy sudaca.
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#182 - Posted 18 August 2009, 11:44 PM
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Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark.

uhh, wrong. More like Germany considering the accordion is an important merengue instrument


You're right, plus we look more Alpine than Nordic.



More like Mediterrenean, and aren't Mediterraneans just olive-skinned nords?


We have some of those swarthy meds here, but it's mostly alpines with a smaller minority of nords.

You know I'm a troll according to some for even acknowledging you and not getting all hostile? I've been accused of being you. you complete me, you filthy sudaca.

Now how did those Alpines get to the DR though? Are most Dominicans of Basque descent?


I've heard either a shipwreck where by they populated the colony of Santo Domingo or a natural land bridge...from Germany.

We have tons of Basque blood. We have everything and anything that can be claimed.

With that I go to bed.
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#183 - Posted 19 August 2009, 8:38 AM
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haitians and dominicans are brothers. you guys got separated at birth and no longer even recognize each other. thats the way i see it. Lots of dominicans are dark, some Haitians are very black yes but a lot look like african americans too, expecially the ones in america.

Haiti and DR are the same, the europeans ****** you guys over badly and now you guys claim no relation to each other.

If we're Cain and Abel, that is.Hmmm, I didn't know Boyer and his cronies were European. I wouldn't claim relation to my cousin who kidnapped my daughter and did who-knows-what to her, and the only reason why she is alive is because she escaped from him. Even if hundreds of years later he is begging like a viralata sarnoso for help. Lucky he, that I haven't given him change with the same coin.-supposition
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#184 - Posted 19 August 2009, 9:01 AM
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haitians and dominicans are brothers. you guys got separated at birth and no longer even recognize each other. thats the way i see it. Lots of dominicans are dark, some Haitians are very black yes but a lot look like african americans too, expecially the ones in america.

Haiti and DR are the same, the europeans ****** you guys over badly and now you guys claim no relation to each other.

If we're Cain and Abel, that is.Hmmm, I didn't know Boyer and his cronies were European. I wouldn't claim relation to my cousin who kidnapped my daughter and did who-knows-what to her, and the only reason why she is alive is because she escaped from him. Even if hundreds of years later he is begging like a viralata sarnoso for help. Lucky he, that I haven't given him change with the same coin.-supposition


That's a good an analogy as any. Unfortunately, the prevalent political correctness of the countries that proclaim themselves "friends of Haiti" is making them suffer from agnosia, that is, making them forget that the current status quo was not the norm a century ago. The current conditions on Haiti are so dire that any time one tells an euro/american that they (the haitians) were once the strongest nation on the island and the dominicans the underdog, they can't help but shake their heads in disbelief or become dumbstruck, cuz' for them its an intellectual leap of biblical proportions to comprehend how a country could sink so low in so short a timespan, or that an enslaved african community could be able to overcome the shackes of slavery and colonialism and become an imperial entity in its own right in the space of a few decades, even if the community into which they exerted dominion were only a bunch of dirt poor cattle ranchers. It can hardly correspond with the socioeconomic conditions that they have in front of their eyes.
Edited on 8/19/2009 9:20 AM by Lautaro.
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#185 - Posted 19 August 2009, 12:17 PM
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haitians and dominicans are brothers. you guys got separated at birth and no longer even recognize each other. thats the way i see it. Lots of dominicans are dark, some Haitians are very black yes but a lot look like african americans too, expecially the ones in america.

Haiti and DR are the same, the europeans ****** you guys over badly and now you guys claim no relation to each other.

If we're Cain and Abel, that is.Hmmm, I didn't know Boyer and his cronies were European. I wouldn't claim relation to my cousin who kidnapped my daughter and did who-knows-what to her, and the only reason why she is alive is because she escaped from him. Even if hundreds of years later he is begging like a viralata sarnoso for help. Lucky he, that I haven't given him change with the same coin.-supposition



Boyer's father was French, Boyer mother's was mullato.
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#186 - Posted 19 August 2009, 12:28 PM
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haitians and dominicans are brothers. you guys got separated at birth and no longer even recognize each other. thats the way i see it. Lots of dominicans are dark, some Haitians are very black yes but a lot look like african americans too, expecially the ones in america.

Haiti and DR are the same, the europeans ****** you guys over badly and now you guys claim no relation to each other.

If we're Cain and Abel, that is.Hmmm, I didn't know Boyer and his cronies were European. I wouldn't claim relation to my cousin who kidnapped my daughter and did who-knows-what to her, and the only reason why she is alive is because she escaped from him. Even if hundreds of years later he is begging like a viralata sarnoso for help. Lucky he, that I haven't given him change with the same coin.-supposition



Boyer's father was French, Boyer mother's was mullato.


Seeing as how the french don't apply the US american hypodescendancy laws (the so called "one drop" rule), then one could say that they were indeed, european. By all accounts, Boyer and his "affranchi" party were european in everything except physical appearance. The french concept of citizenship and belonging is more tied to the culture that the person is practicing at the moment rather than his/her looks.
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The french concept of citizenship and belonging is more tied to the culture that the person is practicing at the moment, instead of his/her looks.


That is correct, this is exactly how Frenchmen themselves explain it.
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The coastal areas of Colombia. Maybe Nicaragua. Some Nicaraguans I've noticed have a speaking tone that is very similar to Dominicans.

Central America is a cultural transition zone. Certain countries like Guatemala & El Salvador fall under the Mexican influenced cultural zone, others like Panama the Spanish Caribbean, and others like Honduras, Nicaragua & Costa Rica somewhere in between. Actually Costa Ricans want to distance themselves from other Central Americans due to the negative stigma (poor, backwards, constant war, inidegnous looking, etc.).
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#189 - Posted 19 August 2009, 1:33 PM
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The french concept of citizenship and belonging is more tied to the culture that the person is practicing at the moment, instead of his/her looks.


That is correct, this is exactly how Frenchmen themselves explain it.


Is good to have you back, socio.
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haitians and dominicans are brothers. you guys got separated at birth and no longer even recognize each other. thats the way i see it. Lots of dominicans are dark, some Haitians are very black yes but a lot look like african americans too, expecially the ones in america.

Haiti and DR are the same, the europeans ****** you guys over badly and now you guys claim no relation to each other.

If we're Cain and Abel, that is.Hmmm, I didn't know Boyer and his cronies were European. I wouldn't claim relation to my cousin who kidnapped my daughter and did who-knows-what to her, and the only reason why she is alive is because she escaped from him. Even if hundreds of years later he is begging like a viralata sarnoso for help. Lucky he, that I haven't given him change with the same coin.-supposition


That's a good an analogy as any. Unfortunately, the prevalent political correctness of the countries that proclaim themselves "friends of Haiti" is making them suffer from agnosia, that is, making them forget that the current status quo was not the norm a century ago. The current conditions on Haiti are so dire that any time one tells an euro/american that they (the haitians) were once the strongest nation on the island and the dominicans the underdog, they can't help but shake their heads in disbelief or become dumbstruck, cuz' for them its an intellectual leap of biblical proportions to comprehend how a country could sink so low in so short a timespan, or that an enslaved african community could be able to overcome the shackes of slavery and colonialism and become an imperial entity in its own right in the space of a few decades, even if the community into which they exerted dominion were only a bunch of dirt poor cattle ranchers. It can hardly correspond with the socioeconomic conditions that they have in front of their eyes.


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