| #1 - Posted 25 August 2008, 7:53 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1098 | Ready for change, are you? All Dominicans will agree that the current system is not working. Past and present governments have been nothing more than a disappointment. Government and demagogues promising change and prosperity but only producing rhetoric and the same hollow concessions. Ladies and Gentlemen change in DR is inevitable but how it changes and the extent of significant change will greatly depend on many factors. Important factors, which for the most part are out of grasp of the average Dominican. Dominicans live in a world where hope is sidelined by the day to day challenges of living one day at time and making it to the next. Hope dwells in the shadows of everyday life, seeking and waiting for the opportunity not only to reveal itself but to avail itself. But Dominicans are our own greatest enemy, we continue to betray hope with trivial visions of grandeur, and self. We succumb to our inherited proclivity, the lure of material wealth, and power. We partake in unscrupulous activities which eventually leads to the demise of our virtue. In the periphery we can see the demons, but like Adam, we are deceived by the snake's tempting offerings just beyond the penumbra of hope. Purblind of what lies beyond, we acquiesce and become the perpetrators and accomplices of our own misery and despair. We all know our leaders have built a nation of corruption and injustice. Supporting itself on the pillars of ignorance and the complacency of its society. But today, I do believe we are at a time and place where we can begin to tear down these decrepit pillars and construct new pillars forged and tempered with knowledge, integrity and justice. Knowledge is power but power is not intended for the satisfaction of one person or a chosen few. Power should and must be used to help the disenfranchised, defenseless the hungry and those marginalized by inequities imposed by the privileged few. Ladies, gentlemen, we are the architects of our own destiny. Each one of us can make a difference in what will be the future of our country. We are at a critical juncture where resources knowledge and opportunity can allow us to write our own page in history. We are at the vanguard of change. Each and every one of us is a catalyst. We all posses the power to begin "a change". Opportunity and knowledge abounds us. But opportunity by itself is handicapped if not accompanied with preparation. Therefore, I ask each and every one of you today, do you want to make a difference? Do you want to see change for the better? Do you envision a better tomorrow? Most importantly are you "willing" to contribute to change in DR? If you answered unequivocally yes to all, then why not begin the preparation? There is much work ahead. If not, then perhaps as our fathers have done so in the past, we will stay the course. Stay on the road of complacency by continuing our sempiternal cyber journey arguing or debating on DT the decrepit state of our country. Complaining of the ineptitude's and blatant injustices and continuing corruption. And in the end we would have accomplished nothing. Nothing, except a dismal choreography of our own self induced impotence. In conclusion, I present a challenge to all the brilliant minds here and elsewhere to come together. I ask that you organize if not here then somewhere, with someone, and commit yourself to change. Will you commit yourself to the possibilities.....? I am open to any and all rational and intelligent ideas. Edited on 8/25/2008 9:46 PM by ladronaso. So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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| #2 - Posted 25 August 2008, 10:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 1575 | RE: Ready for change, are you? ladronaso what exactly is the action you propose? |
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| #3 - Posted 25 August 2008, 10:52 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8467 | RE: Ready for change, are you? as usual, a brilliant set of observations from ladronaso regarding the status quo. as an aside, let me just say that i heard tonight that the net worth of Joe Biden, (democratic party vice presidential choice in the USA, ) is 150, 000 dollars. yes, that is after 30 years in politics, many of which were spent as a senator. if a politician spent 30 years in the DR in active politics, and only accumulated 150,000, he would be labelled a pendejo. our guys accumulate that much in 30 days!! |
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| #4 - Posted 25 August 2008, 11:39 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1098 | RE: Ready for change, are you? Quote: Manhattanite previously said: ladronaso what exactly is the action you propose? Before a child can walk, he must crawl. What I propose is, what I stated in my concluding paragraph. "That we organize." That all those concerned individuals as myself with a desire to change the corrupt and beleaguered state of DR, to quickly begin crawling our way into some semblance of order or identifiable entity. That we muster and form a real entity with purpose and conviction. Simply put. That we form an organization of individuals with common goals and objectives. Once this is accomplished we begin to take the next steps. My question is now, are there any volunteers or interested individuals willing to begin crawling? Because, I've been ready! So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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| #5 - Posted 25 August 2008, 11:48 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1098 | RE: Ready for change, are you? Quote: dreadlocks previously said: as usual, a brilliant set of observations from ladronaso regarding the status quo. as an aside, let me just say that i heard tonight that the net worth of Joe Biden, (democratic party vice presidential choice in the USA, ) is 150, 000 dollars. yes, that is after 30 years in politics, many of which were spent as a senator. if a politician spent 30 years in the DR in active politics, and only accumulated 150,000, he would be labelled a pendejo. our guys accumulate that much in 30 days!! Dreads this is a sad truth. However Dominicans (Politicians) feel that it is an entitlement regardless of the means and end. So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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| #6 - Posted 25 August 2008, 11:52 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8467 | RE: Ready for change, are you? ladronaso, as you well know, there are those of us who are concerned with the state of affairs, and would like to see change, but who have to tread lightly, as we are not Dominican nationals. we can only offer ideas, but have to draw the line at the point where we cannot be construed to be interlopers, meddling in the affairs of our hosts. there might even be people who could benefit from our efforts, but would still resent our help. |
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| #7 - Posted 26 August 2008, 12:24 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1098 | RE: Ready for change, are you? I am aware of this fact. But my solicitations are directly targeted at Nationals. Nonetheless, I am open and would accept reliable input and guidance from anyone with the utmost confidence and discretion. However in today's day and age with the advent of technology there is much that can be accomplished while preserving the anonymity of the source. Dreads we are not China. If we were, it would be easier to accept and understand individual complacency and lack of motivation. BTW, I hold much respect and appreciation for your input as well as your critical observations. So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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| #8 - Posted 26 August 2008, 7:56 AM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 1375 | RE: Ready for change, are you? Yea tell Leonel to hand over the government to you Ladronazo... Inform me when he answers. What you're talking about is a Revolution... We don't need that, we can solve our issue the democratic way.... bloodless |
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| #9 - Posted 26 August 2008, 8:12 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 8467 | RE: Ready for change, are you? actually, Carlos, i do not presume to speak for ladronaso, but what he proposes does not translate to bloody revolution. there are other solutions besides armed strife. forming a new political party, which operates along different lines from the conventional parties of the past, and present, could be a start |
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| #10 - Posted 26 August 2008, 8:18 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1098 | RE: Ready for change, are you? Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Yea tell Leonel to hand over the government to you Ladronazo... Inform me when he answers. What you're talking about is a Revolution... We don't need that, we can solve our issue the democratic way.... bloodless Anyone with reasonable intelligence can comprehend that I am not talking about "A Revolution" I'm talking about beginning with focus groups and going from their. Just as things are done in a democratic society. Now if you are unable to conceive my ideas from a rational and pragmatic point of view, then it is individuals as yourself that would be better off waiting for your Dominican leaders to take the helm. So, you don't like what's happening in DR.... |
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