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#31 - Posted 27 August 2008, 11:43 PM
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In any event suerte.

Cibaeño, I empathize and I understand your concern about illiteracy, but it's not a matter of semantic it's a matter simple mindset and not literacy, If you took offense then perhaps you failed to understand my point, or missed the part where I stated that literacy is very important. Now don't misconstrue our differences in perspective or interpretation as a refusal to listen, and accept opinions (specifically yours) as well as others.

I'm quite sure you know most Dominican Politicians policy makers are literate. Yes, no? I Think very literate as matter fact. Therefore, If literacy was a cause (of our problems) then we wouldn't be in the position we are in. If Literacy was the problem, then most Dominicans upon reaching prominence and political power would exercise prowess leadership and power and do what is right. But they don't. Why? because their mindset, their integrity, their morals, their values, their leadership, their principles and ethics. For the aforesaid reasons and not because of their inability to read or write.

Now regarding my attempts to make a change, perhaps I will never succeed. Perhaps my attempts will never blossom into anything significant. Perhaps I will spend the rest of my life searching and trying. Perhaps I will never pass go and collect my 200 dollars. But when I die, I will die knowing that I have tried. That "I" have put forth my efforts. That "I" had been willing to commit and that I did not relegate my concerns of the state of my country to complacency, the status quo or eternal meaningless exchanges of our problems.


Thank you about the Good luck, but I don't believe in luck. I believe in preparation and opportunity and when they meet it's time to make my move.
Edited on 8/28/2008 4:30 AM by ladronaso.




So, you don't like what's happening in DR....

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#32 - Posted 28 August 2008, 4:09 AM
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Show me the light Ladronazo... since you seem to know the answer... what is your big plan that hasn't been spoken before... you talk of change but what are you doing for change????

And yes DR needs a revolution... a revolution of the mind!!! we already possess what we need to make effective changes, except the political will to do it.
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#33 - Posted 28 August 2008, 4:10 AM
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Carlos, if there is one thing you have to concede , it is that things are not working in their present guise. and waiting, and hoping, that they will change evolutionally, is a failing strategy. things are never going to change without a revolution, but such a revolution does not have to be armed strife. there can be a grassroots appeal to people to re-format their thinking, to think of the current state of affairs as a sinking ship in need of many lifeboats!


I totally agree with you... i don't remember saying otherwise
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#34 - Posted 28 August 2008, 4:12 AM
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actually, Carlos, i do not presume to speak for ladronaso, but what he proposes does not translate to bloody revolution. there are other solutions besides armed strife. forming a new political party, which operates along different lines from the conventional parties of the past, and present, could be a start


I couldn't have said it better!!!
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#35 - Posted 28 August 2008, 10:07 AM
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Carlos, the economic and social malaise in which this country finds itself is not a reflection of a dearth of talented, educated people to run the country. i have read some of the most brilliant insights from posters in this forum. the problem is that such people are not allowed to enter the political mainstream by invitation, because the entrenched powers do not want competition from competent people. it is utterly simplistic to believe that people such as yourself, ladronaso, cibeano, Mr Lautaro,et al, want to see the levels of inertia and corruption which paralyse the society. it is simply that, short of forming their own political party , they will probably remain voices on the web, speaking truth and good sense, but affecting nothing.
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#36 - Posted 28 August 2008, 5:10 PM
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For any revolution to be sucessfull you need $$$$$.

No Revolution has ever been lead by the "masses" It has always been supported buy people who are rich and powerful who want change......usually to improve their own situation.

That is the way it happened in the US revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Cuban Revolution, Phillipines, Nicaragua,........the list goes on and on.
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sigh!
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#38 - Posted 28 August 2008, 6:46 PM
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sigh!

Sad but true.
I agree that the DR needs change. Corruption is instatutionalized but if you think that a few internet buddies alone will make change then you are mistaken.
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#39 - Posted 29 August 2008, 5:54 AM
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All Dominicans will agree that the current system is not working. Past and present governments have been nothing more than a disappointment. Government and demagogues promising change and prosperity but only producing rhetoric and the same hollow concessions.

Ladies and Gentlemen change in DR is inevitable but how it changes and the extent of significant change will greatly depend on many factors. Important factors, which for the most part are out of grasp of the average Dominican. Dominicans live in a world where hope is sidelined by the day to day challenges of living one day at time and making it to the next. Hope dwells in the shadows of everyday life, seeking and waiting for the opportunity not only to reveal itself but to avail itself.

But Dominicans are our own greatest enemy, we continue to betray hope with trivial visions of grandeur, and self. We succumb to our inherited proclivity, the lure of material wealth, and power. We partake in unscrupulous activities which eventually leads to the demise of our virtue. In the periphery we can see the demons, but like Adam, we are deceived by the snake's tempting offerings just beyond the penumbra of hope. Purblind of what lies beyond, we acquiesce and become the perpetrators and accomplices of our own misery and despair.

We all know our leaders have built a nation of corruption and injustice. Supporting itself on the pillars of ignorance and the complacency of its society. But today, I do believe we are at a time and place where we can begin to tear down these decrepit pillars and construct new pillars forged and tempered with knowledge, integrity and justice. Knowledge is power but power is not intended for the satisfaction of one person or a chosen few. Power should and must be used to help the disenfranchised, defenseless the hungry and those marginalized by inequities imposed by the privileged few.

Ladies, gentlemen, we are the architects of our own destiny. Each one of us can make a difference in what will be the future of our country. We are at a critical juncture where resources knowledge and opportunity can allow us to write our own page in history. We are at the vanguard of change. Each and every one of us is a catalyst. We all posses the power to begin "a change". Opportunity and knowledge abounds us. But opportunity by itself is handicapped if not accompanied with preparation. Therefore, I ask each and every one of you today, do you want to make a difference? Do you want to see change for the better? Do you envision a better tomorrow? Most importantly are you "willing" to contribute to change in DR?

If you answered unequivocally yes to all, then why not begin the preparation? There is much work ahead. If not, then perhaps as our fathers have done so in the past, we will stay the course. Stay on the road of complacency by continuing our sempiternal cyber journey arguing or debating on DT the decrepit state of our country. Complaining of the ineptitude's and blatant injustices and continuing corruption. And in the end we would have accomplished nothing. Nothing, except a dismal choreography of our own self induced impotence.

In conclusion, I present a challenge to all the brilliant minds here and elsewhere to come together. I ask that you organize if not here then somewhere, with someone, and commit yourself to change. Will you commit yourself to the possibilities.....?



I am open to any and all rational and intelligent ideas.




http://www2.dominicantoday.com/dr/opinion/2007/12/10/26352/Political-Culture-Institutions-and-Dominican-Politics

Man u sound a little like me when I was a little more aggressive about my prospects in the DR.
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#40 - Posted 29 August 2008, 1:08 PM
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Sad but true.
I agree that the DR needs change. Corruption is instatutionalized but if you think that a few internet buddies alone will make change then you are mistaken.

First and foremost, nowhere is it stated a desire to make internet buddies. I wouldnt entertain a childish idea. In addition I stopped having buddies when I was 18. Second, part of my purpose for being here has been satisfied and some of it has not. I came here with the curiosity and expectations to seek and meet like minds possesing diverse viewpoints and ideas. Ideas having the potential to translate to some meaningfull byproduct of ambition or initiative.

But what I have found is nothing more than an English translation of the same. Conformity and lack of will. Impressing is the motivation to continue choreographing the same problems and ills that afflict our country with the least bit of actionable implication. Its akin to watching repeated episodes of Star Trek and at times The Three Stooges or Adams Family. Knowing who will hit or shoot who. I admit that I have been enlightened by some very profound observartions as well as the divers and well balanced views and critiques, thus this a part of my quest has been satisfied. And therefore I thank all the brilliant minds having contributed to this enlightment.
Edited on 8/29/2008 1:10 PM by ladronaso.




So, you don't like what's happening in DR....

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