ladronaso previously said:

And if you do enter a war thinking you are going to win, you better have a good plan to leave. A good exit strategy. Number one mistake of the U.S. in Iraq

dreadlocks previously said:

but , ladronaso, the americans will have you believe that they are " winning" in iraq. they just cannot describe what victory looks like. only a fool believes you can use military force to defeat an ideology. dinosaurs like John McCain should know better, because he was in vietnam, and had a bird's eye view of how things turned out there. these islamists refuse to lose. i have met some islamic guys, and have discussed the issue at length. they are not going to quit, ever. this is, for them, armageddon. it is a central aspect of their religion. if western simpletons believe that they can get rid of them with smart bombs, they better think again!

dreadlocks previously said:

but , ladronaso, the americans will have you believe that they are " winning" in iraq. they just cannot describe what victory looks like. only a fool believes you can use military force to defeat an ideology. dinosaurs like John McCain should know better, because he was in vietnam, and had a bird's eye view of how things turned out there. these islamists refuse to lose. i have met some islamic guys, and have discussed the issue at length. they are not going to quit, ever. this is, for them, armageddon. it is a central aspect of their religion. if western simpletons believe that they can get rid of them with smart bombs, they better think again!

dreadlocks previously said:

but , ladronaso, the americans will have you believe that they are " winning" in iraq. they just cannot describe what victory looks like. only a fool believes you can use military force to defeat an ideology. dinosaurs like John McCain should know better, because he was in vietnam, and had a bird's eye view of how things turned out there. these islamists refuse to lose. i have met some islamic guys, and have discussed the issue at length. they are not going to quit, ever. this is, for them, armageddon. it is a central aspect of their religion. if western simpletons believe that they can get rid of them with smart bombs, they better think again!

JEM237 previously said:



I very much agree with you, Dread. There is no way one can win a war against a group of people who don't give a f---- about dying (i.e. suicide bombs, terrorist attacks). You'd think the U.S. would have figured that one out by now.

anthonyC previously said:



Ahhhh Deadyboy,


We WON!!!!!!
Saddam is gone.
Iraq is a Democracy.......Something most Arab or Muslim countries cannot claim except for Afghanistan(Thanks to the U.S. as well)
After the victory in Iraq we then had to deal with an Islamofacist insurgency which we have all but won also.
Terrorism Wolrd Wide is down 40%..Something the MSM seem to forget to tell you.
Libya has renownced Terrorism.
Eygpt has moved towards Democracy.
Syria has backed off.

So explain to me how we haven't won or are not winning.

Don't ya just hate it?

anthonyC previously said:


May I suggest some reading....Sun Zu, Von Clauswitz, Schwarzkopf.

You never enter a war unless you have a reasonable assurance you are going to win. The Commies who fought for Castro in the D.R. were saddly mistaken.