| #161 - Posted 4 September 2008, 11:31 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22480 | RE: Obama's impact... texasshoe, there is no accounting for bad human decisions. hell, dude, if companies were giving it away for free, some drones would be too lazy to fill out the enrolment forms. 31.00 per month is a gift, and i know that 1200 per month is possible.let alone the fact that some companies have open enrolment breaks, which means you do not have to disclose pre-existing conditions and medical history. but that is humanity for you; failing to act in their best interests in not rare. i can understand major tax breaks for companies which have to shoulder the added burden of contributory health insurance; i am a fair guy! |
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| #162 - Posted 4 September 2008, 5:56 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: January 2008 Member #: 283 Posts: 501 | RE: Obama's impact... [QUOTE=texasshoe] [QUOTE=dreadlocks] Man I wish I had your ability to see things in written form that were not written nor implied, it is uncanny. Before I left my last employer to go on my own, that company offered a really comprenhisive helath care package of which I participated. Of the 2000 or so employees in that division only about 30% participated in the program and the majority claimed it was too expensive. $125 month single, $175 for a family. That company paid 82% of the premium and the employees portion was deducted pre-tax resulting in a lower overall tax burden to the employee. That Company supported the oil & Gas business with lower end hourly employees making $8.50 per hour working 84 hours per week for pre-tax checks of $900.00 and they choose not to pay the $31.00 per week because it was too expensive! Some Higher end hourly employees who made $1500 per week did not participate either. They made a choice, not me, not a Rebublican or Democrat, they did. Health insurance on the open market can be $1200 per month or more without a economy of scale plan as those offered by a company and $31.00 per week is expensive!! Give me a break. [/QUOTE] TEXAS, how are you doing man? Your post is comparing apples to oranges when it comes to employees fortunate enough to have an Health care option and those who do not. Most lower-end employees have crappy to none health care plans. So, you're saying that 70% of employees did not choose health care as opposed to paying cash to see a doctor? I've worked in many places and I've never seen that happen. Edited on 9/4/2008 5:58 PM by kmnupe. |
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| #163 - Posted 4 September 2008, 7:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22480 | RE: Obama's impact... texasshoe, i cannot find any disagreement with your ststement that the basics are in place, but the political will to see it through is just not there |
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| #164 - Posted 4 September 2008, 11:10 PM | |
Location: United States, Brooklyn Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 3076 | RE: Obama's impact... Quote: Lautaro previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: texasshoe previously said: The impcat that Obama will have in the DR IF elected will be minimal at one end and fairly high on the other end. 1. The folks that buy homes and condos in Punta Cana truly have disposable income that allows that kind of lifestyle. Those same folks cruise the Caribbean and stop at every Island along the way. They are the folks that pay to have thier yacht crewed to a port destination and they hop a private jet or first class to party on it for a weekend- No impact 2. The tourist group that visits the DR to get married, a week on the beach, those guys will feel the brunt of tax increases and postpone or cancel the trip of a lifetime.--Higher taxes, less disposable income = less travel. I had read in an earlier post that someone mentioned that a lot of DR folks in the US get paid "en efectivo" the remmitances to the island will probably go up short term. It is possible the exact opposite will take place. With more of an economic strain placed on the wallets of the folks that hire those Dominicans the reduced employment opportunities could slow the return of monies gained back to home. Normally when tax increases take place on High Dollar individuals and corporations the price of end user goods reflect that increase being squeezed on both sides is never good and a reduction in purchases become evident. If Obama were to get elected the net result would be negative for the DR. It's sad i know... I even like him... but my patriotism for my homeland forbids me from going against her interest.... McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT Apparently, we're not the only ones that are wary with Obama's candidacy, Carlos. Check this article out: http://www.clavedigital.com/App_Pages/opinion/Firmas.aspx?Id_Articulo=12451&Id_ClassArticulista=59 The interesting thing is that Vega not only mentions Obama's possible bias in the haitian question, but also mentions a possible reversal in the free trade agreements signed by the republicans (DR-CAFTA et al.) and also mentions that, as twisted a paradox of sorts (seeing as how Obama sr. was an inmigrant himself), the possibility that Obama and the democrats might cater to the hardliners on the inmigration debate in the US, which will make him guilty of the charge of hipocrisy, at least on the DR's case, because, on the one hand, he would want the DR to be lenient on our inmigration issue (by invoking the labour chapters of the DR-CAFTA), while using an iron fist approach on the US inmigration issue. Very interesting Lautaro... I fear Obama's policy. In trying to be seen like a great black man or trying to improve black people around the world, he might take on the haitian issue in DR and forced our puppet politicians into accepting all the Haitians in the country and then we won' have a country that's like us... with our language, religion and customs.... Am voting for McCain |
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| #165 - Posted 5 September 2008, 8:10 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 9364 | RE: Obama's impact... Quote: dreadlocks previously said: RANT, anthonyc? we are taliking about EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK. what is all this crap about women taking less dangerous jobs? what is the relevance of that when discussing equal pay for equal work? do you understand the concept? i guess not, so let me explain it in the most childlike terms i can accomplish. when a man and a woman do THE SAME JOB, the man earns a dollar, the woman 77 cents, on the average. remember anthonyc, THE SAME JOB. not nursemaid versus firefighter, or motor vehicle clerk versus coalminer. THE SAME JOB. That is right AVERAGE. That mens that jobs like Police and Firefighter are mixed in with Waitress and maid then divided by the number of women and men. Jeez Did you take statistics? If men are on the AVERAGE taking higher paying jobs than women then of course women are going to average less pay. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOTS KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS & iNGLE23 |
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| #166 - Posted 5 September 2008, 8:18 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22480 | RE: Obama's impact... now i am finally convinced that you are a moron. i was before, but you have removed all doubt. first of all, average is not statistical; it is merely arithmetic. secondly, the issue is EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK. not average salary!!!! is that so abstruse to you? what don't you get? it means that a female mechanic earns less than a male mechanic. a female ceo earns less than a male ceo. a female firefighter earns less than a male firefighter. we are not discussing AVERAGE WAGES. we are talking about people doing the same job. now i know why so many people are leaving the board. jeezus, man, are you this daft? |
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| #167 - Posted 5 September 2008, 10:03 AM | |
Location: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me Join date: December 2007 Member #: 9 Posts: 13560 | RE: Obama's impact... Quote: dreadlocks previously said: now i am finally convinced that you are a moron. i was before, but you have removed all doubt. first of all, average is not statistical; it is merely arithmetic. secondly, the issue is EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK. not average salary!!!! is that so abstruse to you? what don't you get? it means that a female mechanic earns less than a male mechanic. a female ceo earns less than a male ceo. a female firefighter earns less than a male firefighter. we are not discussing AVERAGE WAGES. we are talking about people doing the same job. now i know why so many people are leaving the board. jeezus, man, are you this daft? I am glad to see you taking up the womens fight Dread.... Sarah will need all the help she can get lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE |
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| #168 - Posted 5 September 2008, 1:04 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 9364 | RE: Obama's impact... Quote: dreadlocks previously said: now i am finally convinced that you are a moron. i was before, but you have removed all doubt. first of all, average is not statistical; it is merely arithmetic. secondly, the issue is EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK. not average salary!!!! is that so abstruse to you? what don't you get? it means that a female mechanic earns less than a male mechanic. a female ceo earns less than a male ceo. a female firefighter earns less than a male firefighter. we are not discussing AVERAGE WAGES. we are talking about people doing the same job. now i know why so many people are leaving the board. jeezus, man, are you this daft? Dread, Show me proof. Please don't use Wikipedia, N.O.W. DWC or the NY Times. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOTS KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS & iNGLE23 |
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| #169 - Posted 5 September 2008, 4:26 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: September 2008 Member #: 1335 Posts: 22 | RE: Obama's impact... OBAMA/BIDEN '08 Your really think McCain or Palin gives a crap about Dominicanos or Latinos? Did you watch the Republican Convention? Look at the crowd... does that represent YOU? All i saw was a Sea of white, old faces akwardly chanting "USA!!!". Obama is the future, he has experience living in other countries in which he wasn't trying to kill the native people (unlike McCain). he actually cares about the way the US handles itself internationaly. Its McCains type that propped up Trujillo in the early days and it was McCains type that labeled our brave revolutionaries as "communists" . |
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| #170 - Posted 5 September 2008, 6:07 PM | |
Location: Canada, home safe Join date: January 2008 Member #: 268 Posts: 2787 | RE: Obama's impact... Quote: RDinME previously said: OBAMA/BIDEN '08 Your really think McCain or Palin gives a crap about Dominicanos or Latinos? Did you watch the Republican Convention? Look at the crowd... does that represent YOU? All i saw was a Sea of white, old faces akwardly chanting "USA!!!". Obama is the future, he has experience living in other countries in which he wasn't trying to kill the native people (unlike McCain). he actually cares about the way the US handles itself internationaly. Its McCains type that propped up Trujillo in the early days and it was McCains type that labeled our brave revolutionaries as "communists" . I agree with some of the posters a democrat government would probably be more sympathetic to Haitians, however we should look at the larger picture Obama is the future, and represent a break from the past, his election, just like in the 60´s, will by no means open the door to other capable minorities to seek the highest office, I have read some of the rethorics for not voting for him, they are just plain dumb and narrow minded. 1.Are you better off than 4 years ago ? 2.Is the war in Irak justify ? 3.Do you support Bush and Cheney political and economic policy 90% ? if, your answer is yes for all the above ,and felt being represented by that party by no means you should vote for Macsame. I think, personally only a person with half a brain will fall for the Karl Rove and their Republican neocon scary and dirty tactics. Edited on 9/5/2008 7:18 PM by antonioj. We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. |
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