| #1 - Posted 7 September 2008, 12:27 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? THE ETHNICAL COMMONALITY OF PEOPLE OF THE CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS IS WHAT? By Wilgëens "AfroLatino" Rosenberg. Most Latin-Americans and even Haitian you do not even know what the ethnicity of a Haitian is. Due to extreme racial profiling, resentments and discrimination among many other racist reasons, some have chosen for certain groups what they feel is appropriate given their biases. Furthermore, because of the personal deep rooted views and opinion of some people of others as to what they think the Ethnicity of what certain groups are, perhaps all of that have as factors have something to do or is due to lack of education and knowledgeable historical facts. The Ethnicity of someone is not based solemnly that person's race, skin color or features and characteristic attributes or because that someone is a descendant of a certain human race. Being descendant of a human race or background does not make it your ethnicity. Ethnicity, race, background and nationality are not all the same things. They each have their own definitions for a reason. Look each of them up to get a better sense and comprehension of what each of them means individually. By the way, simply saying Haitian is not a race, or ethnicity either. When you say Haitian, you are only referring to what your Nationality is as to specify directly which Independent Sovereign Country of which you are from. For example, stating on a piece of paper that you are Cubans, Dominican, Haitian, Jamaican, Puerto Ricans, or anywhere in the Central Latin-Americas is only what one may call or say is a "Demonym" thus a Nationality, therefore not a race, or ethnicity and here are the definitions of these terms: ETHNICITY: The fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. RACE: Each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics... BACKGROUND: A person's education, experience, social circumstances... (Which may also include one's ancestral, historical and genetical make up). NATIONALITY: The status of belonging to a particular nation. Which has brought me to this point of asking both Haitians and Dominicans on here on this site to tell me honestly about what ethnicity group or category do all the people from Central & Latin-Americas actually fall under and in this case and principally the Haitians and do you know all the Latin-Americans Countries? If so, please without any biased exceptions, name them. This is a simple question many people in the Central Latin-Americas do not know the answer to... Many of them often think that stating their nationality on a piece of paper is what their ethnicity is. Wrong! Thus if you have some kind of geographical and historical education or knowledge on what the word ethnicity is and means, what would you say the ethnicity of the Habitants of the Central & Latin-Americas really is? Before I respond with my answer, I ask you all to try to reply to this thread and explain at least in a well thought out paragraph about what you think the ethnicity of the people of Central & Latin-Americas is and why and please consider as exception those territories they have already deemed to be Anglo Saxon which are not part of the Latin derivatives nations. P.S: Furthermore, please I ask that you all do the effort to proofread your responses for spelling, improper grammar and try your best to be as articulate as possible in expressing your views as well as provide us with good working links to back up your opinions, statements and more. Edited on 9/7/2008 1:56 PM by AfroLatino. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| #2 - Posted 7 September 2008, 8:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 630 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? I don't remember who it was who said these lines "Los Latino Americanos son el group the gente mas diversos en el Mundo" So i guess we're a little bit of each. Asia, White, African, Indian, Middle Eastern |
| #3 - Posted 7 September 2008, 8:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 40 Posts: 630 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? I don't remember who it was who said these lines "Los Latino Americanos son el group the gente mas diversos en el Mundo" So i guess we're a little bit of each. Asia, White, African, Indian, Middle Eastern |
| #4 - Posted 8 September 2008, 1:25 AM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, La Union Join date: July 2008 Member #: 1028 Posts: 536 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? Point is, generally and after all we are all Latinos given the reasons stated on the other post I have on here about Ethnicity. For those of us whose ancestry is from Africa and were brought to the Americas ( and Latin-Americas), then those would be considered to be Afro-Latino Americans with the exclusion of those Angle Saxon Countries or Territories (although not to include Puerto Rico because it is a Latin-American COuntry regardless of it being a US territory). So the question I am asking since considerably the Latin-Americas are generally or remotely almost the same Ethnicity; then why the hell we cannot all get along or are we letting race and the divides of the Europeans Anglo Saxons and former conqueror idealism come between us !!!??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #5 - Posted 8 September 2008, 10:09 AM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 633 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? You are right that nationality and ethnicity are not the same, but they do overlap to a great extent. All of the categories are amorphous social constructs, and they are particularly blurry when it comes to a region like Caribbean, Central, South America. If I ask an Ecuadorian his ethnicity he might say a number of things, including Ecuadorian. Although that is more accurately his nationality, the fact that he also identifies it as his ethnicity already gives plenty of information. Right off the bat it tells me some ways he is probably culturally different from say a Cuban or a Brazilian. But it may also tell me some differences he has with fellow Ecuadorians who may answer the question by highlighting something else. The thing is that any individual's statement would come through the lens of what I know of the individual's class, visible genetic heritage, even the region of his nation he is from. Latino or Latin-American is at best a sort of super-ethnicity, within which there are a lot of configurations . I do think it is legitimate as a label for the region that speaks to some similarities shared by the many different nationalities/ethnicities. In the same way we generally refer to people of the Indian sub-continent as Indians, but really there are distinct ethnicities with shared histories and features. Edited on 9/8/2008 10:12 AM by Manhattanite. Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |
| #6 - Posted 8 September 2008, 2:10 PM | |
Location: United States, New York, NY Join date: December 2007 Member #: 16 Posts: 586 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? I think Latino's should be its own race b/c we have evolved as a people and as nations. We are a mix mostly of african, european, and ameridian descent. In some cases, a pinch of asian or middle eastern flair. I mean over time these mixes of people have reproduce themselves and have a distinct genetic or DNA consisting of the races above. I think Latino's should have there own rrace which embraces a combination of thee above. We are our own people. We are not black, european, ameridian, middle eastern, or asian we are a combination of all. We are our own people, our own nations with our own idenities. |
| #7 - Posted 8 September 2008, 2:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 4719 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? latino as a race? you mean like caucasians as a race? how do you figure that? what if your neighbor had french, black, swiss and english in his family tree, and you had french, black, swiss and german? are you a different race? or if you and your half sister have different components, are you from the same race? is mongrel a race of dog? |
| #8 - Posted 8 September 2008, 4:20 PM | |
Location: Haiti Join date: December 2007 Member #: 160 Posts: 711 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? I wasn't even going to answer another race topic..boringgggggggggggggggggggggggg....but I couldn't resist giving NY4life a rebuttal. Are you serious?? I mean hispanics in the USA really think they are latinos as one group which is basically USA way of piling a group of people that speaks the same language will not even they consider brazilians latino. First of all there are many culture differences..and race differences in this pile of Latino. I dont buy into the latino cramp..it's a farse and only exist in the minds of US hispanics. If a dominican goes to let's say Venezuela he is a foreignor and vice versa..ok enough of this race thing.. But it makes me wonder how far from reality that hispanics in the USA are when it comes of knowing each other...Latino as a race...this would be a wake up call for many.. |
| #9 - Posted 8 September 2008, 5:54 PM | |
Location: United States, New York City Join date: February 2008 Member #: 336 Posts: 633 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? Jabao making it a race is clearly taking it too far, but in terms of US reality Latino/Hispanic is not a farce. There are professional societies, student unions, cultural media for/by people who identify as these labels, often in conjunction with their family heritage. It hardly matters if a native Venezuelan and native Dominican do not relate to each other as Latinos. All it means is there is more solidarity behind the label amongst those of us growing up in the USA. It may only exist in our minds but I can say the same thing about any of these identity labels so what is your point in saying that? A German who never left home and an Englishman who never left home are simply those things...put them together in a town square in Cambodia and see how quick they become Europeans. Same principle, except we are more likely to speak the same tongue. Making it a 'race' is giving it too much strength, but you just went too far in the other direction. Personal blog: http://harlequinlocke.livejournal.com News & Opinion feed: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/03443266769684001616 |
| #10 - Posted 8 September 2008, 6:34 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 4719 | RE: What is the GENERAL ETHNICITY of those in the CENTRAL & CARIBBEAN LATIN-AMERICAS? yes, manhattanite, put them ALONE in a town square in cambodia, and they become european. then fly in a few planeloads of germans, and see how quickly the english guy becomes english again. |



