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#241 - Posted 16 September 2008, 7:23 PM
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GC is like a moving target. he fires off one inaccuracy, and , when corrected, fires off another. first he says freddie mac was a democratic invention, then ,when he realises it was done under Nixon, he then offers us that Clinton ruined it. Clinton was a decade ago, and the crash came after 8 years of Bush. talk about disingenuous! it is one thing to support a cause, but a little honesty never hurt, GC. if Clinton's philosophies were so wrong, how did he manage to preside over record employment, budget surpluses, and peaceful times? i suppose you are going to tell us that the common man is better off today than he was under Clinton?

that is horseshit and you know it ...the thieves who run freddy and fannie were clinton people and are clinton people
lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE
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#242 - Posted 16 September 2008, 7:46 PM
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GC is like a moving target. he fires off one inaccuracy, and , when corrected, fires off another. first he says freddie mac was a democratic invention, then ,when he realises it was done under Nixon, he then offers us that Clinton ruined it. Clinton was a decade ago, and the crash came after 8 years of Bush. talk about disingenuous! it is one thing to support a cause, but a little honesty never hurt, GC. if Clinton's philosophies were so wrong, how did he manage to preside over record employment, budget surpluses, and peaceful times? i suppose you are going to tell us that the common man is better off today than he was under Clinton?

that is horseshit and you know it ...the thieves who run freddy and fannie were clinton people and are clinton people

Americans are being jerked around like sheep!
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#243 - Posted 16 September 2008, 8:05 PM
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define what you mean by 'clinton people" these are private companies. they are not government departments nor ministries. how do they get controlled by " clinton people"? they are not like the Department of the interior, or some such agency, which can be politicised. they are private entities. and we all know that Jesse Jackson shook them down a few times, but do you really want to enter the territory of shakedowns and thievery? you really want to go there?
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#244 - Posted 16 September 2008, 11:12 PM
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History has shown that those who promise tax cuts, actually raise taxes. No one expects a handout but we do expect fairness. Why should I be tax on my labor at 33% while a day trader get 15%??? The comments sound like the republican mantra.. "Keep repeating lies, and it will be the truth.
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#245 - Posted 16 September 2008, 11:56 PM
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History has shown that those who promise tax cuts, actually raise taxes. No one expects a handout but we do expect fairness. Why should I be tax on my labor at 33% while a day trader get 15%??? The comments sound like the republican mantra.. "Keep repeating lies, and it will be the truth.

you have made an excellent point but let me explain .....your 33 percent totals 299 dollars...His 15 percent totals 29 thousand dollars now do you get it.....it is kinda like the top 10% pay about 70% of the taxes.. DUDE...and that not a lie...you can google it
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#246 - Posted 17 September 2008, 9:44 AM
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maybe, GC, that is because the top 1% of americans own 24% of the entire wealth of the country. from whom do you believe that taxes should come? those who have nothing? it is funny how capitalists are outraged by "redistribution of wealth", but elated by redistribution of risk and loss. i do not hear any capitalists wailing about government usin 85 billion dollars of taxpayer money to bail out AIG. that, my friends, is socialism; nationalisation of risk and debt. and do not tell me it is a loan. it still carries risk of default if the conditions do not change for the good.
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#247 - Posted 17 September 2008, 11:42 AM
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McCain is like a fish out of water! Flip flop... Oh GC, I left the names of the individuals that wrote the story so you can personally attack them!

McCain Embraces Regulation After Many Years of Opposition


By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 17, 2008; Page A01

A decade ago, Sen. John McCain embraced legislation to broadly deregulate the banking and insurance industries, helping to sweep aside a thicket of rules established over decades in favor of a less restricted financial marketplace that proponents said would result in greater economic growth.

Now, as the Bush administration scrambles to prevent the collapse of the American International Group (AIG), the nation's largest insurance company, and stabilize a tumultuous Wall Street, the Republican presidential nominee is scrambling to recast himself as a champion of regulation to end "reckless conduct, corruption and unbridled greed" on Wall Street.

"Government has a clear responsibility to act in defense of the public interest, and that's exactly what I intend to do," a fiery McCain said at a rally in Tampa yesterday. "In my administration, we're going to hold people on Wall Street responsible. And we're going to enact and enforce reforms to make sure that these outrages never happen in the first place."

McCain hopes to tap into anger among voters who are looking for someone to blame for the economic meltdown that threatens their home values, bank accounts and 401(k) plans. But his past support of congressional deregulation efforts and his arguments against "government interference" in the free market by federal, state and local officials have given Sen. Barack Obama an opening to press the advantage Democrats traditionally have in times of economic trouble.

In 2002, McCain introduced a bill to deregulate the broadband Internet market, warning that "the potential for government interference with market forces is not limited to federal regulation." Three years earlier, McCain had joined with other Republicans to push through landmark legislation sponsored by then-Sen. Phil Gramm (Tex.), who is now an economic adviser to his campaign. The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act aimed to make the country's financial institutions competitive by removing the Depression-era walls between banking, investment and insurance companies.

That bill allowed AIG to participate in the gold rush of a rapidly expanding global banking and investment market. But the legislation also helped pave the way for companies such as AIG and Lehman Brothers to become behemoths laden with bad loans and investments.

McCain now condemns the executives at those companies for pursuing the ambitions that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act made possible, saying that "in an endless quest for easy money, they dreamed up investment schemes that they themselves don't even understand."

He said the misconduct was aided by "casual oversight by regulatory agencies in Washington," where he said oversight is "scattered, unfocused and ineffective."

"They haven't been doing their job right," McCain said yesterday, "or else we wouldn't have these massive problems on Wall Street, and that's a fact. At their worst, they've been caught up in Washington turf wars instead of working together to protect investors and the public interest."

Yesterday, Obama seized on what he called McCain's "newfound support for regulation" and accused his rival of backing "a broken system in Washington that is breaking the American economy."

In a speech in Golden, Colo., Obama blamed the economic crisis on an "economic philosophy" that he said McCain and President Bush supported blindly.

"John McCain has spent decades in Washington supporting financial institutions instead of their customers," he told a crowd of about 2,100 at the Colorado School of Mines. "So let's be clear: What we've seen the last few days is nothing less than the final verdict on an economic philosophy that has completely failed."

Obama released a TV ad that mocks McCain for saying on Monday that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" and asks: "How can John McCain fix our economy if he doesn't understand it's broken?"

He also poked fun at McCain for proposing a commission to examine the crisis, calling that "the oldest Washington stunt in the book."

"This isn't 9/11. We know how we got into this mess," Obama said. "What we need now is leadership that gets us out. I'll provide it, John McCain won't, and that's the choice for the American people in this election."

Obama reiterated his economic proposals: a stimulus plan and protections for struggling homeowners. Over the long term, he proposes enhancing regulations of the financial markets, including creating an advisory panel to regularly update the president.

McCain's proposed changes for the system were equally vague.

"There will be constant access to the books and accounts of our banks and other financial institutions," he said. "By law, it will reduce the debt and risk that any bank can take on. And above all, I promise reforms to prevent the kind of wild speculation that can put our markets at risk, and has already inflicted such enormous damage across our economy."

McCain offered his own TV ad promising to "reform Wall Street" and pass "new rules for fairness and honesty," adding: "I won't tolerate a system that puts you and your family at risk. Your savings, your jobs . . . I'll keep them safe," the ad says.

He did not describe how he would bring greater transparency to the process. His senior policy adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, told reporters earlier in the day that there was no need for McCain to be specific right now.

"There's no magic solutions, and I don't think it's imperative at this moment to write down what the plan should be," he said. "The real issue here is a leadership issue.''

McCain stumbled Monday when the financial crisis peaked, first saying the "fundamentals" of the economy were strong. After being hammered by Obama and the Democrats -- "What economy is he talking about?" Obama asked -- he said that he knows the economy is in crisis, but that the basis of the American economy, the American worker, is strong.

By Tuesday, McCain had retooled the message further, and tried to wrap the financial meltdown into his campaign's greater message about changing "the way Washington does business."

McCain has not always opposed government regulation. He supported efforts to allow the Food and Drug Administration to regulate tobacco. And he pushed to strengthen the Sarbanes-Oxley Act requirements, which were put in place after the accounting scandals involving Enron and other major firms.

But he has usually reverted to the role of an unabashed deregulator. In 2007, he told a group of bloggers on a conference call that he regretted his vote on the Sarbanes-Oxley bill, which has been castigated by many executives as too heavy-handed.

In the 1990s, he backed an unsuccessful effort to create a moratorium on all new government regulation. And in 1996, he was one of only five senators to oppose a comprehensive telecommunications act, saying it did not go far enough in deregulating the industry.

As chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee for more than a decade, McCain did not have direct oversight of the financial sector. But he sat at the center of arguments between telephone, cable and satellite companies, almost always pressing for more competition.

"I'm always for less regulation," he told the Wall Street Journal in March. He added: "I'd like to see a lot of the unnecessary government regulations eliminated."

Staff writers Robert Barnes and Anne E. Kornblut and political researcher Alice Crites contributed to this report.



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#248 - Posted 17 September 2008, 1:06 PM
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well, there you go. i told you that the man was dishonest, unprincipled scum. he has no moral epicenter. he was the king of deregulation all these years , and all of a sudden, he has found God. it is so patheteic.
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It was odd that Mr. Hussain Obama was absent from the Chicago funeral of Waheed Mohammed last week. The man was a direct line to Allah as the son of the "Honorable" Elija Mohammad , Luis Farakhan was there, Im sure Billy Ayers was as well. I don't beleive we will have to steal this one but I suppose a nuclear Iran, a weaker nation and a broad socialist agenda would be "change" Just not really that positive , Every black person I know is absolutely estatic about Barrak, but have never expressed anything other than jubilation about a fellow African American getting the job.
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"Evil must be defeated!" — John McCain 8/16/08

"Enough is enough! We're going to put an end to greed!" — John McCain 9/17/08


And you guys call Obama the Messiah? Even Jesus never claimed he could do these things....
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