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Acorn came through my neighborhood about 2 weeks ago and tried to get 2 families registered to vote that I know of, however there is a problem, while the families are legal residents they are not citizens. I also know two individuals who are registered to vote who also are not citizens but were registered when they renewed their drivers license.

Here is an example from Bexar County Texas;



Mick Gregory

After the Senate pushes throught the Imigration/Border bill, how many illegal voters will there be?

A mild mannered reporter with a radio station in Texas has uncovered that illegal immigrants have registered to vote and voted by the scores.

Who did they vote for? Democrats, of course.

Why couldn’t the mainstream media have looked into this constitutional crisis?

Hundreds of illegal immigrants have registered to vote in Bexar County in recent years and dozens of them have actually cast ballots, canceling out the votes of U.S. citizens, radio station 1200 WOAI News reports.

Figures obtained by a reporter fshow 303 illegals successfully registered to vote, and at least 41 cast ballots in various elections.

Bexar County Elections Administrator Jackie Callanan confirmed the figures, but she says a new form of voter registration card, which requires people to swear they are citizens when they register, should help cut the problem, because people who vote illegally can be charged with perjury.

And the county has some sly ways to catch them.

“Maybe they have received a jury summons, the jury wheel relies on registered voters. They send a statement to the jury room that says they are not U.S. citizens and then we get that report immediately,” Callanan says.

It’s a hot issue in the Texas Legislature, where republicans are pushing a bill that would require voters to show some form of identification before voting.

“Considering that a photo ID is required to buy Sudafed, I can’t understand why anyone would argue that the same standard, if not a higher standard, should apply to voting,” Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst said. “Why would any Texan oppose legislation that ensures only U.S. citizens vote in elections?”
By Jim Forsyth, reporter for the radio station.

While not taking a position on the legislation, Callanan warned that any law that required that people present ID at the polling place might actually discourage people from voting.

“It will be cumbersome to have them presented at the polls,” she said. “The lines will be longer. It will require an additional check.”

Democrats in the Legislature have fought the proposal, saying it would keep the poor and minorities, who generally vote Democratic, away from the polls. A key Democratic Senator and Dewhurst got into an argument on the floor of the Senate over the emotional issue.

Well Texas,

Here is the thing. No matter how many people they register to perhaps try to meet a fraudulent quota, those people who are not on INS record as citizens will never actually be able to vote anyway because those names are processed before they could actually send you a confirmation Green light to vote anyway even if you go to any Department of Motor Vehicle to register or apply for licenses.

It is unlikely "Mickey Mouse" is going to show up to vote at a Voting Poll Station if all his identification information do not actually match the INS Database with his Social Security Number does not pop up as a valid working one and him being an actual citizen of the US for real. So all this Acorn fraud noises, though, it is a shameful thing to hear will not amount to much. Prime example: A cousin of mine, when he first came to America from France, went to apply or to get his US Driver's license renewed if I remember. Anyway on the form, they asked him if he would like to register to vote and with which political party also for Jury Duty and so forth... Without knowing any better then or that he was just teasing, he checked "yes" and chose "Democrat." Well, when he received his license... it clearly says in the letter of confirmation or whatnot that he were "not legally able to register to vote or participate in Jury Duty because records have shown that he was not an US citizen, but rather a simple just a Permanent Resident (Alien Green Card Holder).

It was also noted and said in the letter "One must be an actual citizen in order to register to vote in the USA" followed with sets of informational things he could do by law, regulation and amended due time and processes of how to actually file for his citizenship as well as it says the actual legal penalties and consequences if he were to go on and ever vote while not being registered as a US Citizen and so forth...

Understand?

Will Rosenberg

P.S: Point in case is, what I am trying to say is, this ACORN stuff is being blown out of proportion and is simply just a political diversion being stirred even though or regardless that it is actually a dishonest thing that the actual employees are doing or have done just to get the actual money by trying to meet the certain crunch number quotas prescribed to them by their bosses from certain Acorn branches.

However, it is not like or that the actual ACORN bosses went out of their ways telling those employees or specifically dictate them as employers to actually go out and register factitious names. That is a decision certain idiot people chose to do themselves because they are lazy and unskillful to convincing or getting actual people to actually register to vote.

* Lastly and once again, the problem does not lie with the whole ACORN Institution, but with ghetto ass "Lazy Irresponsible Individuals" who were entrusted and hired as employees to do a legit job of which they have chosen to rather cheat their way in sleazy efforts and ruse tactics to try meeting given quotas perhaps in order to simply get paid without actually doing the job.

Afro,

I disagree, the two individuals that I know who renewed their licenses' received Voter registration cards via the mail. One is a gentleman who is from the UK and has been in Houston over 10 years and still has a green card, the other is a Mexican lady who has been here a little over 5 years and she too has agreen card. When you first go for a license you have to show you are a resident of the state any renewals can actually be done online or in person. In Texas like most other states once at the polls you need only to present your voter registration card, no ID, and if your name matches your registered voting precint you are good to go. Even if they ask for an ID you show your valid license and it states nowhere if you are a citizen or not. Legally a poll worker can not ask legal status as they are not from ICE, USCIS or another law enforcement agency.

BTW- I did not mention ACORN or anyone else, I am telling you that I know folks personally who are registered voters in the State of Texas who should not be and it stems from the motor-votor law that a lot of states have adopted. In Texas when you register to vote there is no party affiliation box to check you just register.

Oh okay, I got you... Well, now it sounds to me like it s more of a specific State-by-state INS regulation problem than it might be of anything else. I was stationed at Fort Hood (Killeen), Texas. They do almost everything backwards there. No offense to you as a Texan, but maybe it is a Texas thing. You know, the whole "Lone Star" mentality .

Anyway and indeed, when you first applying for your license you do have to show that you are resident of that state as far as proof of physical address in that state. However in New York or perhaps most other east coast states, once you have checked on the application that you are not a US Citizen, one has to show proof of Citizen Status by providing a passport, visa or green card and if you are an actual US citizen I guess it is automatic that you do not need those documents. In my knowledge and for as long as I have been registering to vote in the United States or perhaps given at least the states I have been in, when registering to vote whether if one has done it through the DMV of that State or online (maybe not in Texas).

Generally, before they can send you your Voter's Registration Card they actually internally via their Citizenship verification process cross referenced or check your given information to verify if indeed you are a citizen legit to be able to vote period.

P.S: In States I have registered and voted in like New York, Boston, Georgia, Florida when you go to the poll, you must bring with you and show an actual ID as well as your name must match on the actual precent signature sheet period.

: So this shows that in fact there is this State-to-State law and requirement differential when it comes to registering and voting, and you are right that indeed it does not state your citizenship status on one's license. So what do you suggest or propose of a plan that can fix something like this?

I hate to burst you guys bubble but Voter Fraud in the US has traditionally been the domain of the Democratic Party.

The Kennedys in W.Va,

LBJ in Texas.

And lets not forget the Chicago Daley, Democratic Party Machine that gave us Obama.

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