I understand your concern, but you are REALLY blowing things out of proportion. You are taking a few meaningless words by a person ASPIRING to have power, who currently has NONE and using it to fuel and entertain this worse case scenario idea. The Haitian Government has been negligent concerning immigration but lets keep things in perspective. Haitians are put to work IN the Dominican Republic ESPECIALLY in the fields of Construction and Sugar Cane. So what message is the Dominican Government sending to Haitians who are just planning to cross over?? "Don't even try it! Because you WILL be turned around at the border!" or "Pay a few pesos to the border guards and you will have no problems....and THEN we will not only ALLOW but ENCOURAGE you to work in our fields"??. In all fairness, don't you think that ALSO contributes to the problem?? The very fact that the word 'buscones' even exist says something. Its not the Dominican Governments 'fault', but it does have some guilt for the massive population that has been ALLOWED to accumulate. But again don't jump to such extreme conclusions. The Government may not be perfect, but they are crazy either. They will never allow Haiti to join the Dominican Republic, neither will the International Community. There is no 'conspiracy' to join Haiti and the Dominican Republic, so please again, stop it. There already WAY too many people who are living in fear because they think Haitians are staging some kind of secret revolution. Por el amor de Dios, tenemos que impedir esa clase de pensamiento!

"There is no question that the MASSIVE amount of ILLEGAL Haitians in the DR since 1996 is a clear indication that systematic plan is in effect to have the DR population learn to "cope" with Haitians." What?? No. Not true. If that were the case then please explain the INCREASED deportation of Haitians since the Cholera outbreaks?? Why deport them at all if that were the plan?? After all we all know Cholera is just a front. Furthermore, regardless of their common link to selfish money mongering ways, Haitians and Dominicans do not really have what you would call a 'team work' type of relationship, never have. Is the Haitian population causing stress and difficulties?, yes as these are people who need basic things in order to survive and the resources in the Dominican Republic are limited. But remember things are worse now for a REASON, Haiti is STILL in shambles right now need I remind you, hundreds of thousands of people STILL in tents, STILL needing the basics, STILL awaiting the often promises but rarely received aid. So this is simply a very difficult situation regardless of which angle you view it.

Lastly, stop entertaining negativity. Be positive about the situation and stop giving weight to a situation that does not need ANY more negative press. All it will do is FURTHER strain Dominican and Haitian relationships. Haiti IS NOT going to join the Dominican Republic as one Country. It will take some time but Haiti will be ok. In the meantime the Dominican Republic and Haiti have to work together as IF they were one, and people need to stop spreading propaganda that will make that even more difficult than it ALREADY is.

In BRAVE HEART - the movie - the King of England - a cruel chap - says of Scotlanders

"We will breed them out".

And he meant to import English people into Scotland so as to breed them out!


Is that what will happen to the DR in the next 100 years....?

Exactly I don't know who is trying to convince with his foolish statements. Because Haiti is in shambles DR has to except ILLEGAL Haitians. Why doesn't the US, France, or Canada take in these helpless Haitians were resources are more abundant and can really make an instant impact on these people.

He doesn't get it man. Wants to play victim and have the DR solve the Haitians problem which is ridiculous given the fragile state of the Dominican Republic.

There is no brotherhood between Haitians and Dominicans because there is no respect for the soverignty of the people in the Dominican Republic.

The Island is not Haiti, it's the Dominican Republic and Haiti.

Very valid points from Pepe32.

There you go again. There is no Devil remember. Also we had this conversation and I sent you a copy of the speech but you intentionally continue to spread lies.

translation of bookman speech: I sent it to you before and you could Google it yourself.
"The god who created the sun which gives us light, who rouses the waves and rules the storm, though hidden in the clouds, he watches us. He sees all that the white man does. The god of the white man inspires him with crime, but our god calls upon us to do good works. Our god who is good to us orders us to revenge our wrongs. He will direct our arms and aid us. Throw away the symbol of the god of the whites who has so often caused us to weep, and listen to the voice of liberty, which speaks in the hearts of us all." 1

France US Canada have been pushing this "union" for years behind the scenes. It's not in your hands or mine PEPE.
Also Mubarak couldve pacified the population by strong arming the population so he took his billions and ran

What in the world does your typical copy and paste articles have to do with the subject title? Bozzo Willy the Nutcraker Nut Job!!!!

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I understand your concern, but you are REALLY blowing things out of proportion. You are taking a few meaningless words by a person ASPIRING to have power, who currently has NONE and using it to fuel and entertain this worse case scenario idea. The Haitian Government has been negligent concerning immigration but lets keep things in perspective. Haitians are put to work IN the Dominican Republic ESPECIALLY in the fields of Construction and Sugar Cane. So what message is the Dominican Government sending to Haitians who are just planning to cross over?? [I]"Don't even try it! Because you WILL be turned around at the border!"[/I] or "Pay a few pesos to the border guards and you will have no problems....and THEN we will not only ALLOW but ENCOURAGE you to work in our fields"??. In all fairness, [U]don't you think that ALSO contributes to the problem?? [/U] The very fact that the word 'buscones' even exist says something. Its not the Dominican Governments 'fault', but it does have some guilt for the massive population that has been ALLOWED to accumulate. But again don't jump to such extreme conclusions. The Government may not be perfect, but they are crazy either. They will never allow Haiti to join the Dominican Republic, neither will the International Community. There is no 'conspiracy' to join Haiti and the Dominican Republic, so please again, stop it. There already WAY too many people who are living in fear because they think Haitians are staging some kind of secret revolution. Por el amor de Dios, tenemos que impedir esa clase de pensamiento!

[I]"There is no question that the MASSIVE amount of ILLEGAL Haitians in the DR since 1996 is a clear indication that systematic plan is in effect to have the DR population learn to "cope" with Haitians."[/I] What?? No. Not true. If that were the case then please explain the [B]INCREASED[/B] deportation of Haitians since the Cholera outbreaks?? Why deport them at all if that were the plan?? After all we all know Cholera is just a front. Furthermore, regardless of their common link to selfish money mongering ways, [U]Haitians and Dominicans do not really have what you would call a 'team work' type of relationship, never have.[/U] Is the Haitian population causing stress and difficulties?, yes as these are people who need basic things in order to survive and the resources in the Dominican Republic are limited. But remember things are worse now for a REASON, [B]Haiti is STILL in shambles right now need I remind you, hundreds of thousands of people STILL in tents, STILL needing the basics, STILL awaiting the often promises but rarely received aid. So this is simply a very difficult situation regardless of which angle you view it. [/B]

Lastly, stop entertaining negativity. Be positive about the situation and stop giving weight to a situation that does not need ANY more negative press. All it will do is FURTHER strain Dominican and Haitian relationships. Haiti IS NOT going to join the Dominican Republic as one Country. It will take some time but Haiti will be ok. In the meantime the Dominican Republic and Haiti have to work together as IF they were one, and people need to stop spreading propaganda that will make that even more difficult than it ALREADY is.
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[B]The pied piper plays his flute to lull us into complacency until it's too late!!
Sweet Mickey is not the only problem,the Haitian Constitution and its mention of the island as "haiti" is one,the obvious sense of ownership over our land displayed by many Haitians is another,between 1 to 2 million ILLEGAL Haitians is another and all the problems associated with a large influx of people with little education and atrocious sanitary habits and a terrifying attitude towards the ecology of the island yet more.

You keep on alluding to some "brotherhood" but we have never been treated as brothers by Haitians ,we have only been victims,"usurpers" (even though we have been on this island much longer than the Haitians) ,enemies and unwelcome neighbors ,but never even real friends forget "brothers" and having you country flooded (no the Dominican presence in PR does not compare in any way shape or form!) for whatever reason will not bring about a sense of "brotherly love" ,quite the contrary ...Anybody who really wishes for a good relationship between Haiti and DR will find a way to remove the majority of the Haitians (with handrails on the trucks of course) from DR . All those who play delaying tactics appealing to a false sense of brotherhood only cares about the interests and the future of Haiti not of my country and will be indirectly responsible if the situation gets out of hand which is becoming more likely every moment that passes with a Dominican population that does not benefit from the Haitian presence and only loses .The average Dominican on the street does not benefit from the massive illegal presence ,only the elite businesses and landowners do but as the events in Tunisia and Egypt have demonstrated a government can collapse any moment especially one like the the DR government that is going against the will of most Dominicans by allowing the Haitians to violate our frontier.

You speak of peace and love but neither can exist without respect ...





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France US Canada have been pushing this "union" for years behind the scenes. It's not in your hands or mine PEPE.
Also Mubarak couldve pacified the population by strong arming the population so he took his billions and ran


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[B]We know ignorance but Haitians have always thought of the whole island as being one nation ...theirs and of all the countries involved Dominican Republic would be the only loser for we are the ones who would lose our country and our identity.

Ignorance ,there comes a time when not even a violent and repressive government can retain control and that was proven by the Haitian people against the French and many others throughout history . I don't hink the pwoers who are planning this realise the potential for a massive social explosion since all the ingredients are there and the popular sector (those who lose the most from the Haitian "peaceful" invasion) are beginning to react forcing the government to make some small and sterile "show" deportations.

We are in February when we celebrate our independence from Haiti and my people grow weary of the lack of government response to the will of the majority of the population ,all it would take is a small spark to set the island on fire because we have the perfect mix of ingredients for a revolt;

1. Large groups of poor on both sides
2.A bad worldwide economy
3. Historical enmity and mistrust
4.Fierce competition for survival
5. Uncaring governments

So if the unfortunate reaction were to happen ,the main culprits would be those who have orchestrated this farce and those who (for whatever reason ) have pushed this situation to the breaking point ,unfortunately it would be the people who have the least fault on each side that would suffer the brunt of the pain and suffering while the puppet-masters in Washington ,Ottawa and Paris continue their lives as if nothing happened and the elites take their options of flying to the nearest first world nation. In other words Haitians and Dominicans do need to come to an agreement but that will not be possible unless a Haitian leader has the courage to speak out and reach for a respectable agreement with DR and the Haitian leaders who have tried that in the past have either been killed or exiled so not too many will dare take that path,besides our current leaders have very little nationalism in their bodies and don't have the guts to do what is best for our nation to a point of high treason.



So I am not optimistic in either point for my country is the only guaranteed loser either way because we wither commit national suicide (well assisted suicide) or we become the bogeyman of the politically correct and the international left....I personally would opt for the second choice.


Quisqueyanos y Quisqueyanas la obra Patria de Juan Pablo Duarte esta en el peligro maximo de ser extinguido y todos los que dieron sus vidas y su sangre prodiga habrán sufrido y muerto en vano!!

Depende de nosotros como hombres y mujeres que amamos nuestra Patria alcemos la voz y reclamemos a nuestros gobernantes que antepongon nuestros intereses ante todo y si los gobernantes no responden son parte del problema y deben recibir el escarmiento que merecen todos los traidores.Vienen elecciones ,hablen con sus familiares dejenles saber como quieren aniquilar nuestra Patria sin disparar una bala y si assiten a reuniones de qualquier partido pregunten a los candidatos que harian con la situación de la invasion "pacifica" ....si los politicos no responden de manera adecuada no se aferren a un partido o politico sino a los ideales de los que guian los destinos de nuestra nación.
No permitan que les digan que no tenemos poder sobre nuestros destinos porque ellos quieren invitar la complacencia para cumplir sus nefastos diseños y temblarían ante un pueblo vigilante y activo.

Despertad Dominicanos que el tiempo apremia!!



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Hmm...and how do you verify which version is true? Were you there or is it your BIAS that makes you chose?

Mira Belly, you really should get some counseling to deal with the anger and negativity...your life (and the lives of those around you) would be so much happier!