| #41 - Posted 18 October 2008, 9:57 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live [/QUOTE] You didn´t answer my question. I asked you: Which of our western neighbours is better off, communist Cuba, capitalist (or as my dear friend Manhattanite would put, colonial) Haiti or violence-ridden Jamaica? And for your info, I´ve been to all the aforementioned countries. At least in Cuba I could walk on the streets at any hour, whereas in Haiti and Jamaica I couldn´t go out without being escorted by one of the locals, unless I wanted to get hijacked or get a bullet in the chest, respectively. [/QUOTE] I would choose Cuba hands down, and haiti has been invaded by the U.S. several times. everytime it gets worse !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Post IP: 98.113.70.12* | |
| Advertisement | |
Sponsored Links | |
| #42 - Posted 18 October 2008, 10:00 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live i would like to thank every one that has posted in this thread even you AnthonyC, that you for posting. special thanks to those that backed me up. |
Post IP: 98.113.70.12* | |
| #43 - Posted 18 October 2008, 10:01 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1519 Posts: 20 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Lautaro; In answer to your question: You have picked a poor example as a comparison between systems. We all know that Haiti is worst off than Cuba. What you need to do is you should quit whining/complaining about DR and realise how good you have it there. Going by how much time you spend on this forum and how widely youve travelled its evident that you have a lot of lesiure time on your hands and money to spare so quit givin it the "oh things are sooooo hard here, oh lifes soooooo difficult here" crap. Id be surprised if you ever did an honest days work in your life....mummys boy! Go play with han solo or whatever it is you do! Edited on 10/18/2008 10:05 PM by soydeicampo. |
Post IP: 92.40.151.22* | |
| #44 - Posted 18 October 2008, 10:08 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Here's my list of dominican living today whom i would vote for to be president [B]Jaime Mirabal Candelier Wilton Guerrero[/B] [/QUOTE] That’s nice you have three choices, I feel that all the political parties have lost there way. And if Wilton Guerrero runs for president then he will destroy the PLD due to the fact that he has been in it so long and does not agree with LF. |
Post IP: 98.113.70.12* | |
| #45 - Posted 18 October 2008, 10:10 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Quote: soydeicampo previously said: Lautaro; In answer to your question: You have picked a poor example as a comparison between systems. We all know that Haiti is worst off than Cuba. What you need to do is you should quit whining/complaining about DR and realise how good you have it there. Going by how much time you spend on this forum and how widely youve travelled its evident that you have a lot of lesiure time on your hands and money to spare so quit givin it the "oh things are sooooo hard here, oh lifes soooooo difficult here" crap. Id be surprised if you ever did an honest days work in your life....mummys boy! Go play with han solo or whatever it is you do! Play nice .... Campo |
Post IP: 98.113.70.12* | |
| #46 - Posted 18 October 2008, 10:19 PM | |
Location: Cuba, it is a secret the censors are looking for me Join date: December 2007 Member #: 9 Posts: 13576 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Chillexlaxin you are still an unread low grade moron ....maybe some day you will grow up and get over this goofball commie stage you are going through.....now you can stop ignoring me lets get ready to RUUMMMMMMBBBLLLEE |
Post IP: 66.98.33.9* | |
| #47 - Posted 19 October 2008, 4:58 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Boycott Dominican Tourism Join date: May 2008 Member #: 731 Posts: 2064 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: CarlosFranco previously said: Quote: chillaxin201 previously said: Quote: TuPapaupa previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: I was thinking the same, he is the "talking bout the same shi, racism,t over and over again" poster kid. Quote: AfroLatino previously said: Many of you keep going back and forth with this and have yet given any good educative information about Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó so that those who do not know about him can. Instead of rambling on, why not provide worthy solid links to debate this? The one pure mistake always made by people posting on this site is that they never can help themselves not to project their own passionate subjectivity on a matter. I mean this constant circular verbal masturbation.... Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black (pun intended). Afro you are the definition of a poster caught up in his passionate subjectivity and ramblings. By the way very little on the public internet is a proper reference. How in the world is a google search objective when no one can objectively explain to you how they sort their results? Information on the internet is generally worth what you paid for it...nil. Hearing the opinions of others, even just youthful recollections or hearsay from family, is much more interesting in terms of a forum than a pretend debate with links of dubious value. As for my opinion of Caamaño from what little I have read he doesn't strike me as a terribly notable individual. It's commendable that he put forth effort to topple Balaguer but he seems to have failed spectacularly. Also it sounds like he was at the very least flirting with far left philosophy, and even if you agree with it you must admit that it would only have brought DR more bloody trouble from the US if we had veered too far down that path. He is talking like this now because I kicked his ass and made him stop abusing and attacking posters here. I do agree with what you said about information gathered on the internet. Caamano's only mistake was to align himself with someone, Juan Bosch, who even if not a full blown Communist, in my opinion, had Communist tendencies. Bosch's biggest mistake?. To hint he was going to repay what the DR owed the US and then deal with other countries, such as Vanezuela. In my opinion, that was his downfall. Actually, Juan Bosch is why he was fighting. If you know that truth you would know he was fighting for democracy. He was fighting to keep something like the Trujillo era away. The United States used the C.I.A. and Dominican military to remove Juan B. from power. The Americans feared Juan B. because he did lean to the left; he proposed a change to the constitution. Some of those changes were the right to Dominican citizenship if you are born in D.R. Another is the end of large amounts of property in the hands of people and or companies “also known as La Latifundia”. Example: Central Romana. And another was that Only Dominican Citizens Are allowed to poses land in D.R. You can not say that he should have not been aligned with Juan B. I am saying that was the resign they revolted in the 1st place. They “Caamaño and the rebels” called them selves Constitutionalist; they wanted to return to the Constitution of 1963. And return a DEMOCRATICLY elected president to power. Caamaño should have stayed in Cuba, any info you need can be found in the book. Caracoles: La Guerra de Caamaño by Hamlet Hermann Latifundia are pieces of property covering tremendous areas. The latifundia (Latin: latifundium; latus, "spacious" + fundus, "farm, estate" Today, latifundia are only found in Latin America and the term is often extended to describe the haciendas of colonial and post-colonial Mexico, Venezuela, Uruguay, Chile (called latifundio or simply fundo) and Argentina. These originated under colonial law allowing forced labor recruitment and land grants for military services. In post-colonial times, ending the dominance of the latifundia system by implementing agrarian reforms became a popular goal of several governments in the region. Caamano should have stayed in exile (not Cuba) until the time was ripe for his return... Getting Cuban help destroyed him and any chance DR had for a good leader after Balaguer... Here's my list of dominican living today whom i would vote for to be president Jaime Mirabal Candelier Wilton Guerrero Section 3:05 shows bodies being recovered form water these are the bodies of the Constitutionalist after the revolt had ended. Individuals that had been involved in the revolt where systematically killed after the revolt; killed by Balaguar’s/ Wessin’s men and members of the C.I.A. The videos also Caamaño speaking from his new over seas position in London, due to the united states close ties with Britain he could not be safe in that country. There are very few countries in which he could have been safe. I feel he had to take the offer he had been given by Fidel Castro and the Cuban government. Remember Juan B. Himself was exiled and lived in Cuba for several years before General Fulgencio Batista y Zaldívar took over. Cuba had also helped several anti Trujillo groups along the years. The fallowing video shows that even after the peace treaty was signed by the Constitutionalist and the Junta forces; Caamaño and his men where attack outside a hotel in Santiago de Los Caballeros. They where there celebrating the memory of the late Colonel Coronel Rafael Fernández Dominguez when they where attacked by Junta forces. Attacked well after the papers ending the revolt had been signed. time check 4:00 |
Post IP: 98.113.70.12* | |
| #48 - Posted 19 October 2008, 8:20 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4956 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Quote: soydeicampo previously said: Lautaro; In answer to your question: You have picked a poor example as a comparison between systems. We all know that Haiti is worst off than Cuba. What you need to do is you should quit whining/complaining about DR and realise how good you have it there. Going by how much time you spend on this forum and how widely youve travelled its evident that you have a lot of lesiure time on your hands and money to spare so quit givin it the "oh things are sooooo hard here, oh lifes soooooo difficult here" crap. Id be surprised if you ever did an honest days work in your life....mummys boy! Go play with han solo or whatever it is you do! Again, if the DR's system is so high and mighty, why are you staying up north, living by Her Royal Majesty's purse? The only thing that I did was to show you that free markets are not the panacea for all the economic ills of this world that you're making them out to be, and that if they are left unchecked, they can do a lot of evil, as the cases of Haiti and Jamaica have shown. The other thing that you have mightily ignored is the fact that the cuban system, while it has a lot of failings, could do a lot better if that country were not blockaded by the US. It shows that you really didn't have much education, if you can't disqualify my statements without using ad hominems. Why should I not compare them if they're all Third World countries? While the DR may outrank Cuba in economic resources and freedom of speech, it's also true that our educational and health systems leave a lot to be desired when compared to the cuban ones. Edited on 10/19/2008 8:30 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
Post IP: 190.80.234.8* | |
| #49 - Posted 19 October 2008, 8:31 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom Join date: October 2008 Member #: 1519 Posts: 20 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Lautaro; That is a really really weak comeback, stop stating that the grass is green (Cuba/Free markets, Jamaica/Haiti) we all know this, it is getting quite boring, I guess your the most educated person on this site right? They say arrogance and ignorance goes hand in hand! in your case thats true. You really should stop whining/complaining about your lot in DR, f it were viable Id be back home in a heart beat and wouldnt complain even once. BTW have you ever been to los guandules/gualey/capotillo. Im sure your mummy doesnt let you go there. Some of us have to work for a living so, I am going to love you and leave you as Im up in the morning to go to WORK! |
Post IP: 92.40.87.16* | |
| #50 - Posted 19 October 2008, 8:53 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4956 | RE: Col. Francisco Alberto Caamaño Deñó my hero , one of the greatest Dominicans to live Quote: soydeicampo previously said: Lautaro; That is a really really weak comeback, stop stating that the grass is green (Cuba/Free markets, Jamaica/Haiti) we all know this, it is getting quite boring, I guess your the most educated person on this site right? They say arrogance and ignorance goes hand in hand! in your case thats true. You really should stop whining/complaining about your lot in DR, f it were viable Id be back home in a heart beat and wouldnt complain even once. BTW have you ever been to los guandules/gualey/capotillo. Im sure your mummy doesnt let you go there. Some of us have to work for a living so, I am going to love you and leave you as Im up in the morning to go to WORK! Yes, I have gone to those barrios and more, I´m no stranger to the poverty of my own country, as it´s apparently your case, Your Royal Highness. Have you ever been to a batey? Have you ever been to the border towns? Trust me, if you don't, I'll only tell you this: compared to the people in the bateyes and the rayanos, people in Cuba live like kings, the poverty on those places being such that not even the haitians are staying on those places anymore (at least not as long as it was the norm on former times), and I'll leave it at that, since you're with sensitive skin and all that. And please, stop ASSuming, since you know what they say of people that assume. Edited on 10/19/2008 10:06 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
Post IP: 190.0.81.9* | |