| #31 - Posted 14 September 2011, 11:35 AM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: Bugged by Gold: Price Climb Vindicates Conservatives, Confounds Liberals Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/09/13/bugged-gold-price-climb-vindicates-conservatives-confounds-liberals#ixzz1XvkRg12F During 2009 and 2010, liberal commentators and even politicians made a point of bashing conservative commentators such as Glenn Beck and Laura Inghram for allowing gold companies to advertise on their shows, arguing that conservatives and gold companies cynically colluded to deceive viewers into buying bad investments. The recent spike in gold prices seems to prove that the conservative commentators were right after all. Gold prices topped $1,900 an ounce on August 22. The price of gold rose over 400 dollars since the beginning of this year, up from $1,421.40 per ounce since January 1st, 2011, and has rapidly risen over the past two months. The price of gold was $854.60 per ounce at the start of the Obama administration. In other words, gold prices have more than doubled since the beginning of the Obama administration. Gold prices tend to increase in weak or unstable economies. Economic instability and fears of future inflation serve to drive up the price of gold, which serves as a "safe haven" in times of economic distress. Considering the current economic difficulties, it is hardly surprising that economists such as CNBC's Jim Cramer advocate investing a small portion of one's portfolio in gold in today's uncertain economy. Cramer predicted that the price of gold would increase to over $2000 in 18 months - in March 2011, when gold was still at $1,440. It is also not surprising that conservative commentators, most notably Glenn Beck, encouraged listeners to invest in gold as a means to provide a safe haven from the wreckage of Obama's polices. And it would certainly make sense for a gold company to advertise during programs where commentators encourage their listeners to buy gold. But liberal news outlets sought to discredit the connection between gold companies and conservative commentators, portraying it as a concerted effort by both parties to deceive credulous American viewers and listeners of conservative programs into buying overpriced gold coins. (The criticism went nicely with attempts to pressure advertisers to drop sponsorship of Glenn Beck's Fox News Channel program.) ABC News reporter Brian Ross investigated claims against two gold companies. One of these companies was Goldline, which was conveniently linked to Beck and other conservative luminaries. The complaint argued that the company was directing its callers to buy gold coins, rather than bullion bars, which command less of a premium above their actual gold value. In a related print piece, Ross declared that gold companies and conservatives had a "symbiotic relationship." Politico's Kenneth Vogel reported on the relationship between right-wing media figures and gold companies. He closed his piece with a shot at conservative commentators, quoting a woman who had lost money after investing in coins that the article stated could have cost less elsewhere: "How could I be mislead [sic] by Glenn Beck, Fred Thompson and Marvin [sic] Levin?" MSNBC's Keith Olbermann opined on "Countdown" that the relationship between gold companies and conservative commentators "has been profitable for everybody, except the viewers and listeners." Olbermann invited then-Congressman Anthony Weiner, D-NY, onto his program to launch a full-blown, histrionic attack on Beck and Goldline. Weiner railed against a legal, private business arrangement, calling the relationship between Goldline and Beck an "unholy alliance." Weiner had previously issued a report attacking Goldline. His office went further, charging that "Goldline is little more than a gold peddler posing as an investment advisor, an unfortunate byproduct of the Tea Party movement." A "red-faced" Weiner went so far as to summon a representative of Goldline before Congress and blasted him for his company's advertising practices. Weiner's charges went nowhere. In perhaps the most serious and well-thought out of the charges, comedian Stephen Colbert mocked conservative talk show hosts who stumped for gold companies in 2009. Conservatives media figures who advocated that their audience invest in gold were proven correct. The economic "recovery" has stalled. Gold prices have fluctuated in the last couple of weeks, but at this writing ($1832 per ounce) it still is worth more than twice its value when President Obama was inaugurated. Where are the liberal pundits now? Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/09/13/bugged-gold-price-climb-vindicates-conservatives-confounds-liberals#ixzz1XvkM47nD I just love the way you throw down the gauntlet like some heroic archeologist who just found the lost city of Atlantis by discovering the title deeds to the homes that existed there Your sourced "news organization" is just one of many organizations under the admittedly conservative MRC umbrella, a group who's organization questioned the validity of Democratic Rep. John Murtha purple hearts as a response to Murtha's criticisms of the war in Iraq. These same pussies who sought and received deferment after deferment to evade being drafted when the country needed their representation were actually questioning the heroics of a man who did serve when called. These pussies are the same folks who call upon on their "fierce patriotism" while they ran for the hills when it was time to serve. MRC championed media censorship after it's founder (L. Brent Bozell III) claimed that decency on television had deteriorated, which is not in line with your supposed libertarian ideology, is it doctor? By the way, MRC had to pay damages to the WWE to settle a law suit out of court in which the MRC claimed that the WWE was "responsible for the murders of four children," and falsely claimed advertisers had pulled their commercials from the show. Is it perhaps just a bit ironic or hypocritical of you to chastise news posts that are in opposition of your "views" as crap and biased, which you have done many times. Yet, you have no problem posting similar minded articles as some type of vindication for those views by organizations that are self admitted biased right wing conservative. Organizations that are on record as purposely reporting false information as truth and then having to pay for the privilege of their duplicity. As a fellow doctor, although my doctorate is from a prestigious American university and yours is imagined, I regret your conduct. You give fake doctors everywhere a bad name. Posting this article is the same as claiming that you are a very smart and handsome guy and then providing a letter from your mom that concurs with your statement. Why don't you instead make your claim and then provide irrefutable statistical datum and empirical evidence that substantiate your claim. That approach works best and will win you credibility, which you sorely lack. Be well doctor. Edited on 9/14/2011 1:13 PM by devin11. |
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| #32 - Posted 14 September 2011, 1:23 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: devin11 previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: Bugged by Gold: Price Climb Vindicates Conservatives, Confounds Liberals Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/09/13/bugged-gold-price-climb-vindicates-conservatives-confounds-liberals#ixzz1XvkRg12F During 2009 and 2010, liberal commentators and even politicians made a point of bashing conservative commentators such as Glenn Beck and Laura Inghram for allowing gold companies to advertise on their shows, arguing that conservatives and gold companies cynically colluded to deceive viewers into buying bad investments. The recent spike in gold prices seems to prove that the conservative commentators were right after all. Gold prices topped $1,900 an ounce on August 22. The price of gold rose over 400 dollars since the beginning of this year, up from $1,421.40 per ounce since January 1st, 2011, and has rapidly risen over the past two months. The price of gold was $854.60 per ounce at the start of the Obama administration. In other words, gold prices have more than doubled since the beginning of the Obama administration. Gold prices tend to increase in weak or unstable economies. Economic instability and fears of future inflation serve to drive up the price of gold, which serves as a "safe haven" in times of economic distress. Considering the current economic difficulties, it is hardly surprising that economists such as CNBC's Jim Cramer advocate investing a small portion of one's portfolio in gold in today's uncertain economy. Cramer predicted that the price of gold would increase to over $2000 in 18 months - in March 2011, when gold was still at $1,440. It is also not surprising that conservative commentators, most notably Glenn Beck, encouraged listeners to invest in gold as a means to provide a safe haven from the wreckage of Obama's polices. And it would certainly make sense for a gold company to advertise during programs where commentators encourage their listeners to buy gold. But liberal news outlets sought to discredit the connection between gold companies and conservative commentators, portraying it as a concerted effort by both parties to deceive credulous American viewers and listeners of conservative programs into buying overpriced gold coins. (The criticism went nicely with attempts to pressure advertisers to drop sponsorship of Glenn Beck's Fox News Channel program.) ABC News reporter Brian Ross investigated claims against two gold companies. One of these companies was Goldline, which was conveniently linked to Beck and other conservative luminaries. The complaint argued that the company was directing its callers to buy gold coins, rather than bullion bars, which command less of a premium above their actual gold value. In a related print piece, Ross declared that gold companies and conservatives had a "symbiotic relationship." Politico's Kenneth Vogel reported on the relationship between right-wing media figures and gold companies. He closed his piece with a shot at conservative commentators, quoting a woman who had lost money after investing in coins that the article stated could have cost less elsewhere: "How could I be mislead [sic] by Glenn Beck, Fred Thompson and Marvin [sic] Levin?" MSNBC's Keith Olbermann opined on "Countdown" that the relationship between gold companies and conservative commentators "has been profitable for everybody, except the viewers and listeners." Olbermann invited then-Congressman Anthony Weiner, D-NY, onto his program to launch a full-blown, histrionic attack on Beck and Goldline. Weiner railed against a legal, private business arrangement, calling the relationship between Goldline and Beck an "unholy alliance." Weiner had previously issued a report attacking Goldline. His office went further, charging that "Goldline is little more than a gold peddler posing as an investment advisor, an unfortunate byproduct of the Tea Party movement." A "red-faced" Weiner went so far as to summon a representative of Goldline before Congress and blasted him for his company's advertising practices. Weiner's charges went nowhere. In perhaps the most serious and well-thought out of the charges, comedian Stephen Colbert mocked conservative talk show hosts who stumped for gold companies in 2009. Conservatives media figures who advocated that their audience invest in gold were proven correct. The economic "recovery" has stalled. Gold prices have fluctuated in the last couple of weeks, but at this writing ($1832 per ounce) it still is worth more than twice its value when President Obama was inaugurated. Where are the liberal pundits now? Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/paul-wilson/2011/09/13/bugged-gold-price-climb-vindicates-conservatives-confounds-liberals#ixzz1XvkM47nD I just love the way you throw down the gauntlet like some heroic archeologist who just found the lost city of Atlantis by discovering the title deeds to the homes that existed there Your sourced "news organization" is just one of many organizations under the admittedly conservative MRC umbrella, a group who's organization questioned the validity of Democratic Rep. John Murtha purple hearts as a response to Murtha's criticisms of the war in Iraq. These same pussies who sought and received deferment after deferment to evade being drafted when the country needed their representation were actually questioning the heroics of a man who did serve when called. These pussies are the same folks who call upon on their "fierce patriotism" while they ran for the hills when it was time to serve. MRC championed media censorship after it's founder (L. Brent Bozell III) claimed that decency on television had deteriorated, which is not in line with your supposed libertarian ideology, is it doctor? By the way, MRC had to pay damages to the WWE to settle a law suit out of court in which the MRC claimed that the WWE was "responsible for the murders of four children," and falsely claimed advertisers had pulled their commercials from the show. Is it perhaps just a bit ironic or hypocritical of you to chastise news posts that are in opposition of your "views" as crap and biased, which you have done many times. Yet, you have no problem posting similar minded articles as some type of vindication for those views by organizations that are self admitted biased right wing conservative. Organizations that are on record as purposely reporting false information as truth and then having to pay for the privilege of their duplicity. As a fellow doctor, although my doctorate is from a prestigious American university and yours is imagined, I regret your conduct. You give fake doctors everywhere a bad name. Posting this article is the same as claiming that you are a very smart and handsome guy and then providing a letter from your mom that concurs with your statement. Why don't you instead make your claim and then provide irrefutable statistical datum and empirical evidence that substantiate your claim. That approach works best and will win you credibility, which you sorely lack. Be well doctor. Ahhhhh Liberal rule of debate #2 Shoot the messenger!!! Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #33 - Posted 14 September 2011, 1:31 PM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Hey Bernie, I'm so glad you found him. I swear Mr. GC, after I made the squirrel remark, I knew without any hesitance that you would come back with a squirrel pic. You can learn a lot from people by corresponding with them for 3 years Edited on 9/14/2011 1:32 PM by devin11. |
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| #34 - Posted 14 September 2011, 2:14 PM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Anthonyc, Ahhhhh, no, no sir, no doctor, no doctorate. I don't subscribe to silly tricks, such as one sentence blurb responses or catchy one-liners, I am neither you nor Henny Youngman. I believe in substance when framing or responding to any debate. I expressed that your choice of proxy for advancing your initial comments are untrustworthy because it has been proven that they have lied in the pursuit of their agenda driven preconceived narrative. I also gave easily verifiable factual and empirical evidence of my accusation to the same. I then claimed that you have in the past characterized posts that are counter to your perceived ideology as crap and biased (which is also easily verifiable) in these same pages. So I called you out on the obvious hypocrisy that such a position on your part would merit. I use my very own words and thoughts when I write anything in this forum and only interject outside sources for the benefit of documented proof or compulsory evidence. I don't go looking around for like minded articles or other similar thinking sourced articles or even a note from my mom that concurs with any of my statements. I stand by what I say and would happily and respectfully defer my position if said positioned is challenged and proven incorrect or unmeritorious. I don't post to win arguments, I post to further the discussion about things that I am interested in. There doesn't have to be a winner or a loser, the opportunity to express your own views and consider someone else's is the only important element. By the way sir, I am not a staunch democrat or republican, I believe they are 99.99% one and the same. The differences are mostly on social issues, which are driven home by both parties to stir up their core base, for that time of year when you have to decide on the lesser of two evils. I am also not a liberal, conservative or libertarian. There are parts of all those political ideologies that I am very much for and parts that I am very much against. So your attempt to classify me with a one word descriptor is both unfair and untrue but what else could I expect from you. Now give me one of your patented one sentence blurb responses in the usually grammatically abhorrent form and don't forget to claim yourself the victor as you always do. People are laughing doctor and it's not with you. Edited on 9/14/2011 2:16 PM by devin11. |
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| #35 - Posted 14 September 2011, 4:33 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: devin11 previously said: Anthonyc, Ahhhhh, no, no sir, no doctor, no doctorate. I don't subscribe to silly tricks, such as one sentence blurb responses or catchy one-liners, I am neither you nor Henny Youngman. I believe in substance when framing or responding to any debate. I expressed that your choice of proxy for advancing your initial comments are untrustworthy because it has been proven that they have lied in the pursuit of their agenda driven preconceived narrative. I also gave easily verifiable factual and empirical evidence of my accusation to the same. I then claimed that you have in the past characterized posts that are counter to your perceived ideology as crap and biased (which is also easily verifiable) in these same pages. So I called you out on the obvious hypocrisy that such a position on your part would merit. I use my very own words and thoughts when I write anything in this forum and only interject outside sources for the benefit of documented proof or compulsory evidence. I don't go looking around for like minded articles or other similar thinking sourced articles or even a note from my mom that concurs with any of my statements. I stand by what I say and would happily and respectfully defer my position if said positioned is challenged and proven incorrect or unmeritorious. I don't post to win arguments, I post to further the discussion about things that I am interested in. There doesn't have to be a winner or a loser, the opportunity to express your own views and consider someone else's is the only important element. By the way sir, I am not a staunch democrat or republican, I believe they are 99.99% one and the same. The differences are mostly on social issues, which are driven home by both parties to stir up their core base, for that time of year when you have to decide on the lesser of two evils. I am also not a liberal, conservative or libertarian. There are parts of all those political ideologies that I am very much for and parts that I am very much against. So your attempt to classify me with a one word descriptor is both unfair and untrue but what else could I expect from you. Now give me one of your patented one sentence blurb responses in the usually grammatically abhorrent form and don't forget to claim yourself the victor as you always do. People are laughing doctor and it's not with you. So let me get this straight....When I make a statement I get accused of not using facts. When I use facts to back it up I am accused of not having my own thoughts. The really sad part is there are people who cannot see through your simplistic and infantile tricks. That is OK though. I don't need validation from people like you. I earned my Dr. before my name. I earned my home, property and investments......I have honor. Unlike people like you who wouldn't know what honor was if it hit them in the groin. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #36 - Posted 14 September 2011, 5:40 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, LATITUDE 19.750745 LONGITUDE -70.401247 Join date: August 2010 Member #: 5572 Posts: 35 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: anthonyC previously said: So let me get this straight....When I make a statement I get accused of not using facts. When I use facts to back it up I am accused of not having my own thoughts. We have been watching your continued unraveling here for some time, and your quoted statement may actually be your first original and correct musing. When you branch out from your usual cut-n-paste filler, your statements are mostly incorrect. When you seek the safety of plagiarism, you usually post both falsities and definitely show your lack of originality. So.... YES! El que anda con perro a ladrar aprende! |
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| #37 - Posted 14 September 2011, 6:56 PM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: devin11 previously said: Anthonyc, Ahhhhh, no, no sir, no doctor, no doctorate. I don't subscribe to silly tricks, such as one sentence blurb responses or catchy one-liners, I am neither you nor Henny Youngman. I believe in substance when framing or responding to any debate. I expressed that your choice of proxy for advancing your initial comments are untrustworthy because it has been proven that they have lied in the pursuit of their agenda driven preconceived narrative. I also gave easily verifiable factual and empirical evidence of my accusation to the same. I then claimed that you have in the past characterized posts that are counter to your perceived ideology as crap and biased (which is also easily verifiable) in these same pages. So I called you out on the obvious hypocrisy that such a position on your part would merit. I use my very own words and thoughts when I write anything in this forum and only interject outside sources for the benefit of documented proof or compulsory evidence. I don't go looking around for like minded articles or other similar thinking sourced articles or even a note from my mom that concurs with any of my statements. I stand by what I say and would happily and respectfully defer my position if said positioned is challenged and proven incorrect or unmeritorious. I don't post to win arguments, I post to further the discussion about things that I am interested in. There doesn't have to be a winner or a loser, the opportunity to express your own views and consider someone else's is the only important element. By the way sir, I am not a staunch democrat or republican, I believe they are 99.99% one and the same. The differences are mostly on social issues, which are driven home by both parties to stir up their core base, for that time of year when you have to decide on the lesser of two evils. I am also not a liberal, conservative or libertarian. There are parts of all those political ideologies that I am very much for and parts that I am very much against. So your attempt to classify me with a one word descriptor is both unfair and untrue but what else could I expect from you. Now give me one of your patented one sentence blurb responses in the usually grammatically abhorrent form and don't forget to claim yourself the victor as you always do. People are laughing doctor and it's not with you. So let me get this straight....When I make a statement I get accused of not using facts. When I use facts to back it up I am accused of not having my own thoughts. The really sad part is there are people who cannot see through your simplistic and infantile tricks. That is OK though. I don't need validation from people like you. I earned my Dr. before my name. I earned my home, property and investments......I have honor. Unlike people like you who wouldn't know what honor was if it hit them in the groin. Let me yet be more clear than I already have been, after this I will have to resort to crayons and pictionary aids. What you have posted by a anti liberal biased newsgroup IS NOT in any way shape or form proof or factual datum that supports your initial gold uptrending value claims. What you posted was THE OPINION of a like minded and bias "news group" that tilts and distorts the truth in order to fulfill the agenda of their preconcieved narrative. The fact that you introduce such an article as proof while you realize the biases of said newsgroups at the same time as you deride other supposed liberal biased newsgroups as crap and unmeritous makes you a HYPOCRITE. I see that you are now claiming yet again that you are indeed a doctor when just a few weeks ago you denied that you ever made such a claim. You are as untrustworthy as the sources that you use to make your claims. It is not my interest for you to validate yourself to me in anyway, I already know who you are doctor. It is my interest, however, to show just how much of a hypocrite and intellectually limited person you are, with your own words and arguments. You will please forgive me a momentary lapse of self aggrandizement but I think I have exposed you VERY, VERY WELL. I'll let our fellow posters decide for themselves, it would be rude and unfair to make self proclaiming renderings of victory. Isn't that right doctor? Edited on 9/14/2011 7:00 PM by devin11. |
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| #38 - Posted 14 September 2011, 7:10 PM | |
Location: United States, The Greatest City Join date: March 2008 Member #: 469 Posts: 1156 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: TuPapaTarsky previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: So let me get this straight....When I make a statement I get accused of not using facts. When I use facts to back it up I am accused of not having my own thoughts. We have been watching your continued unraveling here for some time, and your quoted statement may actually be your first original and correct musing. When you branch out from your usual cut-n-paste filler, your statements are mostly incorrect. When you seek the safety of plagiarism, you usually post both falsities and definitely show your lack of originality. So.... YES! Mr. TuPapaTarsky, Your post is fall off your chair, laugh out hysterically funny. You are a sharp witted writer who does not sacrifice truth for comedic value...if you are not already a comedy writer please give it some consideration, you could write your own ticket...I told Dr. AC that he should parse his own writing because people were laughing at him. You have just provided for yet a few more broken ribs, thank you. |
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| #39 - Posted 14 September 2011, 8:03 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, LATITUDE 19.750745 LONGITUDE -70.401247 Join date: August 2010 Member #: 5572 Posts: 35 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Quote: devin11 previously said: Mr. TuPapaTarsky, Your post is fall off your chair, laugh out hysterically funny. You are a sharp witted writer who does not sacrifice truth for comedic value...if you are not already a comedy writer please give it some consideration, you could write your own ticket...I told Dr. AC that he should parse his own writing because people were laughing at him. You have just provided for yet a few more broken ribs, thank you. Well Sir, I greatly appreciate your support in these matters, but I would recommend against encouraging me. I am after all a misguided and confused agnostic fool whose soul is ripe for satan's plucking. I do after all fear for my existence, but in this arena, the only god is the Admin who has the power to giveth life or taketh life away. Maybe he shall see fit to resurrect Tupapuapa who has also spread whit to these parts? El que anda con perro a ladrar aprende! |
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| #40 - Posted 14 September 2011, 9:09 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: What is this trend trying to tell us? Devin, when i grow up, i want to be as articulate and as erudite as you are. i mean it. anthonyc can keep his racing yachts...i want your mind. |
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