| #1 - Posted 3 October 2011, 2:29 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | American Airlines in trouble Quote: American Airlines shares tumble 18 percent on outlook (Reuters) - Shares of American Airlines parent AMR Corp (AMR.N) fell more than 18 percent on Monday as analysts debated the prospects for a bankruptcy filing for the third- largest U.S. airline, which lags its industry peers. Airline stocks were down broadly on concerns that a weak economy will drain travel demand and hit fares this autumn. But American, seen financially as the weakest major carrier, saw the worst share losses on a percentage basis. The stock was down 15.9 percent, or 47 cents, at $2.49 on the New York Stock Exchange. "When can they stop the bleeding of cash?" asked Basili Alukos, an equity analyst at Morningstar. The carrier had a second-quarter net loss of $286 million, while rivals showed profits. "If it appears we're coming into somewhat of a rough patch or slowdown, how is that going to fare for them?" Alukos said. "I don't think very well, because they were unable to generate a profit kind of in the best of times for the airlines last year." Ray Neidl, a senior aerospace sector analyst with Maxim Group, said in a recent research note that: "Some believe that a prepackaged bankruptcy filing would be the best thing for AMR and the industry." An AMR spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the bankruptcy talk. American is the only major carrier that did not restructure in Chapter 11 during the recent industry downturn. As a result the airline has operating costs -- including labor -- that are higher than competitors. Meanwhile, experts warn that an economic downturn could hit travel demand just as airlines are beginning to recover. The International Air Transport Association on Monday said airline traffic slowed in August compared with July, with the total passenger market down 1.6 percent. Shares of United Continental Holdings (UAL.N) were down 9 percent at $17.64 on the New York Stock Exchange. Delta Air Lines' (DAL.N) shares fell 7 percent to $6.99 on the NYSE. Another case of the law of unintended consequences. Other airlines get government bailouts but the company that does the right thing is forced to suffer. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #2 - Posted 3 October 2011, 2:42 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10356 | RE: American Airlines in trouble US is stupid they need to kill these b.. airlines with their high fairs - let in Ryan and an efficient Asian airlines that invest in good fleets of modern planes run the services. PAN AM died US cannot run airlines...???. Virgin and Asian airline are walking over US airlines Worldwide.' Air France has A 3080 AA etc,. US airlines nothing comparable. US needs to get out of airline business. S. US Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: American Airlines shares tumble 18 percent on outlook (Reuters) - Shares of American Airlines parent AMR Corp (AMR.N) fell more than 18 percent on Monday as analysts debated the prospects for a bankruptcy filing for the third- largest U.S. airline, which lags its industry peers. Airline stocks were down broadly on concerns that a weak economy will drain travel demand and hit fares this autumn. But American, seen financially as the weakest major carrier, saw the worst share losses on a percentage basis. The stock was down 15.9 percent, or 47 cents, at $2.49 on the New York Stock Exchange. "When can they stop the bleeding of cash?" asked Basili Alukos, an equity analyst at Morningstar. The carrier had a second-quarter net loss of $286 million, while rivals showed profits. "If it appears we're coming into somewhat of a rough patch or slowdown, how is that going to fare for them?" Alukos said. "I don't think very well, because they were unable to generate a profit kind of in the best of times for the airlines last year." Ray Neidl, a senior aerospace sector analyst with Maxim Group, said in a recent research note that: "Some believe that a prepackaged bankruptcy filing would be the best thing for AMR and the industry." An AMR spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the bankruptcy talk. American is the only major carrier that did not restructure in Chapter 11 during the recent industry downturn. As a result the airline has operating costs -- including labor -- that are higher than competitors. Meanwhile, experts warn that an economic downturn could hit travel demand just as airlines are beginning to recover. The International Air Transport Association on Monday said airline traffic slowed in August compared with July, with the total passenger market down 1.6 percent. Shares of United Continental Holdings (UAL.N) were down 9 percent at $17.64 on the New York Stock Exchange. Delta Air Lines' (DAL.N) shares fell 7 percent to $6.99 on the NYSE. Another case of the law of unintended consequences. Other airlines get government bailouts but the company that does the right thing is forced to suffer. |
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| #3 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:01 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Quote: abc200 previously said: US is stupid they need to kill these b.. airlines with their high fairs - let in Ryan and an efficient Asian airlines that invest in good fleets of modern planes run the services. I agree. We should support abc's perfect model for Asian efficiency and service. Quote: North Korea's Air Koryo Is The Worst Airline In The World Kim Bhasin | Oct. 3, 2011, 10:58 AM | 23,271 | 8 There's only one airline in the world that has been deemed horrible enough to earn a dismal 1-star rating from leading airline reviewer SkyTrax. It's North Korea's state-owned airline: Air Koryo. It boasts a fleet of less than two dozen Russian-made planes and offers flights to China, Russia, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and more, according to the Centre of Aviation. The planes are based in the Sunan International Airport in Pyongyang. But in an industry already suffering from widespread negative perception, what makes Air Koryo stand out as the very worst? Customer service, food, safety or a little bit of everything? Australian biomedical engineer Mark Fahey recently took a flight to Pyongyang and put up some shots of his trip on Flickr. We compiled his pictures along with a few others who documented their flights to show you what it's like on Air Koryo. Click here to see pictures of Air Koryo http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-air-koryo-airline-1-star-2011-9#air-koryo-is-not-quality-approved-and-has-1-star-general-ratings-almost-across-the-board-from-skytrax-1 Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #4 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:10 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Quote: abc200 previously said: Air France has A 3080 Quote: A380 engine problem 'could cause fire' October 3, 2011 - 10:45AM A buildup of heat in the pylons of A380s equipped with Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines could cause a fire, the European Aviation Safety Agency said. Photo: Craig Abraham Airlines operating Airbus's A380 superjumbo may be required to modify equipment that connects the plane's engines to its wings, safety regulators said, citing a risk of overheating that could cause a fire. Test flights revealed a buildup of heat in the pylons of A380s equipped with Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines, the European Aviation Safety Agency said today in a proposed airworthiness directive which would require carriers to install ventilation holes in some of the panels covering the structures. "This condition could, in case of a heavy fuel leak, lead to an ignition of fuel vapors, possibly resulting in a fuel fire and consequent damage to the aeroplane and/or injury to its occupants," EASA said in the directive, which is open for consultation until October 28. If made mandatory, the modifications would have to be implemented within a 10-month period, it said. Advertisement: Story continues below Qantas grounded its A380s for 23 days last year after a Trent 900 failure prompted an emergency landing in Singapore on November 4. Rolls-Royce has since carried out modifications to address issues with a faulty oil pipe, and the glitch disclosed today is unrelated, Airbus said. The planned directive would affect the Trent-equipped -841 and -842 variants of the A380, all manufacturer serial numbers, except for planes that have already been modified, EASA said. Today's proposal follows a bulletin issued by Airbus to A380 operators on July 25 after the manufacturer uncovered the overheating issue during its own test flights, spokesman Stefan Schaffrath said by phone, adding that the EASA directive is a standard response. Schaffrath said that the period permitted to address the problem indicates the low perceived risk. EASA said no-one was immediately available to comment further, and London-based Rolls-Royce declined to comment. http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/a380-engine-problem-could-cause-fire-20111003-1l4f9.html Anyone with even a basic knowledge of aircraft design and manufacturing would chose to fly on a Boeing airliner than a EuroSocial Airbus! Even the Japanese know it ![]() Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #5 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:12 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10356 | RE: American Airlines in trouble There are bound to be exceptions but Thai and Singapore leave others in the mud .... S. Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: abc200 previously said: US is stupid they need to kill these b.. airlines with their high fairs - let in Ryan and an efficient Asian airlines that invest in good fleets of modern planes run the services. I agree. We should support abc's perfect model for Asian efficiency and service. Quote: North Korea's Air Koryo Is The Worst Airline In The World Kim Bhasin | Oct. 3, 2011, 10:58 AM | 23,271 | 8 There's only one airline in the world that has been deemed horrible enough to earn a dismal 1-star rating from leading airline reviewer SkyTrax. It's North Korea's state-owned airline: Air Koryo. It boasts a fleet of less than two dozen Russian-made planes and offers flights to China, Russia, Switzerland, Bulgaria, Hungary, the Czech Republic and more, according to the Centre of Aviation. The planes are based in the Sunan International Airport in Pyongyang. But in an industry already suffering from widespread negative perception, what makes Air Koryo stand out as the very worst? Customer service, food, safety or a little bit of everything? Australian biomedical engineer Mark Fahey recently took a flight to Pyongyang and put up some shots of his trip on Flickr. We compiled his pictures along with a few others who documented their flights to show you what it's like on Air Koryo. Click here to see pictures of Air Koryo http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-air-koryo-airline-1-star-2011-9#air-koryo-is-not-quality-approved-and-has-1-star-general-ratings-almost-across-the-board-from-skytrax-1 |
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| #6 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:14 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 5804 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Man it is hard to believe AA has a cash flow problem and is on the verge of bankruptcy. Their tickets are not what one would call exactly cheap, pretty much offer the same cut rate service as all the rest of the budget airlines. Edited on 10/3/2011 3:44 PM by guillermone. |
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| #7 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:29 PM | |
Location: United States, El cuarto bate Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2300 Posts: 10466 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Quote: guillermone previously said: Man it is hard to believe AA has a cash flow problem and is on the verge of bankruptcy. There tickets are not what one would call exactly cheap, pretty much offer the same cut rate service as all the rest of the budget airlines. That is true. I use to buy from them but I have not found a fare with them that cost less than others to my destinations. Edited on 10/3/2011 3:30 PM by xwill7. |
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| #8 - Posted 3 October 2011, 3:48 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Quote: guillermone previously said: Man it is hard to believe AA has a cash flow problem and is on the verge of bankruptcy. Their tickets are not what one would call exactly cheap, pretty much offer the same cut rate service as all the rest of the budget airlines. If you read the article you would see that one of AA's biggest problems is Labor costs because they didn't reorganize under bankruptcy protection. Another industry being killed by Labor Unions and their backers in the Government. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #9 - Posted 3 October 2011, 6:05 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo Join date: April 2008 Member #: 594 Posts: 5142 | RE: American Airlines in trouble I do fly with AA to Miami and sometimes to LAX or to JFK and I find that the major problems I have are with the terminals that AA use especially for international flights ,,arriving at MIA or JFK from the DR is always a nightmare ,even though the flight may be quite ok .Anyone simply has to go to Skytrax and read what the flying public think about AA and american airports in general to get an aunderstanding why american airlines are failing ,,in some ways I feel very sorry for AA because the airport services are letting them down. I cannever understand why there are not more immigration and customs people on duty , especially with the latin america terminal in MIA,at peak times when planes are discourging large numbers of passengers from many countries , |
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| #10 - Posted 4 October 2011, 9:43 AM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10356 | RE: American Airlines in trouble Arriving at Miami was always a nightmare. I used to queue 3 hours after a 9 hour flight - no nun. Once after we had been circling overhead for an hour over a thunderstorm when we did eventually land they wouldn't let us off the plane because they had o buses and it was too dangerous to walk 300 yards to the terminal. London Airport with 5 terminals is usually moderately efficient although 1/2 hour queues can be possible at peak times. Of course Dominican airports are a dream - no wait on 90% of occasions. S,. |
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