| #1 - Posted 20 October 2011, 10:21 PM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9150 | Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? When are the Cuban people going to send packing the Castro brother's? Is my math mistaken? or have the Castro brother's lasted now 52 years and 10 months? Let me see........1-1-1958 to 10-2011. Yes that is correct. Pretty soon they will celebrate their 53 years in power in Cuba. Is that a world record or what? Gaddafi with all his control of Lybia's oil wealth, only lasted 42 years. We Dominicans executed Trujillo after 31 years. Que pasa cubanos? Nobody has any pantalones left in Cuba? Maybe a even brave Cubana, like the ones dressed in white, will put her pants on and do the job. ![]() Enough is enough, the Cuban people deserve a better fate. Edited on 10/20/2011 10:25 PM by generoso. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #2 - Posted 20 October 2011, 10:33 PM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9150 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Oye Barack, I heard that an unmanned US drone in Lybia, was the one who fired the first rockets that stopped the lead cars, when they were hauling ass to the border, and the US warned and radioed the French NATO jet that finished the rest of Gaddafi's caravan. Could you send a couple to visit Fidel and Raul, right next door in good ole Cuba? ![]() Edited on 10/20/2011 11:41 PM by generoso. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #3 - Posted 21 October 2011, 12:22 AM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 12104 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? No. Death will do the job. The last thing the USA wants is to AGAIN be the arbiter of Cuba's future like it was when it defeated Spain and basically established a protectorate over Cuba and force it to accept the Platt Amendment. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck |
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| #4 - Posted 21 October 2011, 12:35 PM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9150 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Quote: Atabey previously said: No. Death will do the job. The last thing the USA wants is to AGAIN be the arbiter of Cuba's future like it was when it defeated Spain and basically established a protectorate over Cuba and force it to accept the Platt Amendment. "When the Castro brothers die", you mean a natural death? Come on give me a break, these guys could live to be almost 100 years old, for Pete's sake, can the Cuban nation afford to wait that long? Unquestionably Fidel Castro is living icon, mostly to the majority of the Cubans that still reside there, and is venerated by most, except all the ones that he has imprisoned, sent into exile, and forced into poverty. The enterprising and ingenuous Cuban youths, and their first world professionals, in many fields, including sports and medicine, need to be valued monetarily in foreign exchange, and not forced to reside in the island prison that is present day Cuba. The US should also lift the out of sync economic blockade, and start trading aggressively with Cuba, as it is done with China, Vietnam, and other former communist countries. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #5 - Posted 21 October 2011, 1:10 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 12104 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Atabey previously said: No. Death will do the job. The last thing the USA wants is to AGAIN be the arbiter of Cuba's future like it was when it defeated Spain and basically established a protectorate over Cuba and force it to accept the Platt Amendment. "When the Castro brothers die", you mean a natural death? Come on give me a break, these guys could live to be almost 100 years old, for Pete's sake, can the Cuban nation afford to wait that long? Unquestionably Fidel Castro is living icon, mostly to the majority of the Cubans that still reside there, and is venerated by most, except all the ones that he has imprisoned, sent into exile, and forced into poverty. The enterprising and ingenuous Cuban youths, and their first world professionals, in many fields, including sports and medicine, need to be valued monetarily in foreign exchange, and not forced to reside in the island prison that is present day Cuba. The US should also lift the out of sync economic blockade, and start trading aggressively with Cuba, as it is done with China, Vietnam, and other former communist countries. Natural death is the better choice. If Cubans have one guiding principle it's their quest to be sole arbiter of their nation's destiny. Many cringe at the thought of being subservient to USA interests and geo-political calculations. The end is near for both brothers and within this decade, it is almost a certainty that both brothers will have died or be unable to dictate matters in Cuba. The younger group will have to assume power Edited on 10/21/2011 1:11 PM by Atabey. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck |
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| #6 - Posted 21 October 2011, 2:21 PM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9150 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Quote: Atabey previously said: Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: Atabey previously said: No. Death will do the job. The last thing the USA wants is to AGAIN be the arbiter of Cuba's future like it was when it defeated Spain and basically established a protectorate over Cuba and force it to accept the Platt Amendment. "When the Castro brothers die", you mean a natural death? Come on give me a break, these guys could live to be almost 100 years old, for Pete's sake, can the Cuban nation afford to wait that long? Unquestionably Fidel Castro is living icon, mostly to the majority of the Cubans that still reside there, and is venerated by most, except all the ones that he has imprisoned, sent into exile, and forced into poverty. The enterprising and ingenuous Cuban youths, and their first world professionals, in many fields, including sports and medicine, need to be valued monetarily in foreign exchange, and not forced to reside in the island prison that is present day Cuba. The US should also lift the out of sync economic blockade, and start trading aggressively with Cuba, as it is done with China, Vietnam, and other former communist countries. Natural death is the better choice. If Cubans have one guiding principle it's their quest to be sole arbiter of their nation's destiny. Many cringe at the thought of being subservient to USA interests and geo-political calculations. The end is near for both brothers and within this decade, it is almost a certainty that both brothers will have died or be unable to dictate matters in Cuba. The younger group will have to assume power I heard that before that the end is near, and Castro refuses to die or go away, it is like a bad dream. When the Russians stopped subsidizing the Cubans, everybody said that Castro's end was near, and then came Crazy Hugo, and threw them a life line. Cubans are a very resilient bunch, very nationalistic and most of the youth know no other system, but the economy has gone from bad to worse, and any want to escape the misery. Best thing that the US could do is lift the blockade, but this can not be done, without the opposition of the Cuban-American politicos, who control large voting segments and lobbies in the US. If Obama is reelected, I believe that he will lift the blockade, when he becomes a lame duck president, otherwise the status quo will continue. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #7 - Posted 21 October 2011, 2:27 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Castro is not a fool. One of the first things he did was disarm the population. This pretty much ends any idea of the people rising up and toppling him like they did the regimes in Libya and Egypt. He then made sure that the military got a big piece of the $$$. Every time a tourist checks into a hotel in Cuba some of that money goes into the General's, Colonel's, Major's and Captain's pockets trickling down to lowly Lieutenants. Any military honcho who didn't play ball or got to big for his britches was quickly smacked down...Remember General Ochoa? So forget a military coup. Then he has played the race card better than Jesse Jackson. Even though a look at the Cuban leadership will present a sea of white folk his propaganda machine has convinced the blacks on the Island that they are better of under him. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #8 - Posted 21 October 2011, 2:42 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10356 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? I have met many Libyans and Cubans in informal circumstnces in London. When you socialize people are honest. Castro and G are two differet animals. Did G sponsor people to go to international medical conferences? Did he help charities all over the World inluding many medical personnel after the problems the World over intially without payment? Did C order downing of airliners over the UK or shooting of UK policmen? S. Quote: anthonyC previously said: Castro is not a fool. One of the first things he did was disarm the population. This pretty much ends any idea of the people rising up and toppling him like they did the regimes in Libya and Egypt. He then made sure that the military got a big piece of the $$$. Every time a tourist checks into a hotel in Cuba some of that money goes into the General's, Colonel's, Major's and Captain's pockets trickling down to lowly Lieutenants. Any military honcho who didn't play ball or got to big for his britches was quickly smacked down...Remember General Ochoa? So forget a military coup. Then he has played the race card better than Jesse Jackson. Even though a look at the Cuban leadership will present a sea of white folk his propaganda machine has convinced the blacks on the Island that they are better of under him. Edited on 10/21/2011 2:46 PM by abc200. |
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| #9 - Posted 21 October 2011, 2:45 PM | |
Location: United States, Quisqueya Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1291 Posts: 9150 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Quote: anthonyC previously said: Castro is not a fool. One of the first things he did was disarm the population. This pretty much ends any idea of the people rising up and toppling him like they did the regimes in Libya and Egypt. He then made sure that the military got a big piece of the $$$. Every time a tourist checks into a hotel in Cuba some of that money goes into the General's, Colonel's, Major's and Captain's pockets trickling down to lowly Lieutenants. Any military honcho who didn't play ball or got to big for his britches was quickly smacked down...Remember General Ochoa? So forget a military coup. Then he has played the race card better than Jesse Jackson. Even though a look at the Cuban leadership will present a sea of white folk his propaganda machine has convinced the blacks on the Island that they are better of under him. Bullshit, when there is a will there is a way. The populace in Libya didn't have any weapons either, they got them from the police and then when they assaulted the army barracks. Go back in recent history all the way back to the french revolution, and the riots started with unarmed citizens, and then the citizens armed themselves. That is just an excuse that displays the Cubans unwillingness for democratic change. If the Cuban populace rises to the occasion and hits the streets, with the right attitude not to worry so much about being shot, or imprisoned, then change will come. But if cozy, lazy, fat, and rich guys like you, are just watching things from far away and counting their assets every day, while racing their expensive sailboats Edited on 10/21/2011 2:46 PM by generoso. Ignorance is temporary, stupidity lasts forever. |
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| #10 - Posted 21 October 2011, 3:21 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 12104 | RE: Gaddafi's over! Are Castro's next? Quote: generoso previously said: Quote: anthonyC previously said: Castro is not a fool. One of the first things he did was disarm the population. This pretty much ends any idea of the people rising up and toppling him like they did the regimes in Libya and Egypt. He then made sure that the military got a big piece of the $$$. Every time a tourist checks into a hotel in Cuba some of that money goes into the General's, Colonel's, Major's and Captain's pockets trickling down to lowly Lieutenants. Any military honcho who didn't play ball or got to big for his britches was quickly smacked down...Remember General Ochoa? So forget a military coup. Then he has played the race card better than Jesse Jackson. Even though a look at the Cuban leadership will present a sea of white folk his propaganda machine has convinced the blacks on the Island that they are better of under him. Bullshit, when there is a will there is a way. The populace in Libya didn't have any weapons either, they got them from the police and then when they assaulted the army barracks. Go back in recent history all the way back to the french revolution, and the riots started with unarmed citizens, and then the citizens armed themselves. That is just an excuse that displays the Cubans unwillingness for democratic change. If the Cuban populace rises to the occasion and hits the streets, with the right attitude not to worry so much about being shot, or imprisoned, then change will come. But if cozy, lazy, fat, and rich guys like you, are just watching things from far away and counting their assets every day, while racing their expensive sailboats Not so fast Generoso. What AC states has merit. The Military does have a huge role in Tourism. The Cuban State has structured the Tourist Sector with the Military as the primary beneficiary The lack of fire arms among the population is a well known fact of life in Cuba. Knives and clubs you have, but no way will you be able to fight against the military with those instruments And the internal reporting system would make any Trujillista jump for joy at the extensiveness and collaboration. The ship has 50 odd years and has achieved near total dominance. Also, say what you will about Castro, he is not a Gaddafi. He talks and writes rationally and doesn't have all those crazy attachments, female guards at his beck and call, individual robes for meeting every quest of honor "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck |
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