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#1 - Posted 24 October 2011, 12:40 PM
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120 years since Trujillo's birth
Just a footnote...Today, October 24th 2011, marks the 120th anniversary of Rafael Leonidas Trujillo Molina's birth in the small town of San Cristobal.
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#2 - Posted 24 October 2011, 12:44 PM
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Just a footnote...Today, October 24th 2011, marks the 120th anniversary of Rafael Leonidas Trujillo Molina's birth in the small town of San Cristobal.


OK.....................? As far as this is concerned, good trivia information or yearbook fact.

So now what? Like what do we do now? Where do we go from here? My intent is not to be sarcastic, but what is it specifically you want to convey, point out and emphasize?

Do we like bake a cake and light up the candles and celebrate in absentia or rather in his memory or what?
Edited on 10/25/2011 10:16 AM by guillermone.
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If England celebrates Oliver Cromwell and Henry the Eighth why can't we celebrate Trujillo?

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If England celebrates Oliver Cromwell and Henry the Eighth why can't we celebrate Trujillo?




Because the Irish, even with all their pull in US politics, can't use the race card to provoke outrage as the Haitians can in the Trujillo case from the liberal lefty and uninformed crowd. Besides, our very own tories (the so called "anti-trujillistas", that opportunistic band) would also make a lot of ruckus if something like that were to happen. Perhaps in a century, when the wounds between our tories and whigs (the campesinos and others who were "made" by the dictatorship and the Balaguer sequel) are healed we can have our very own Act of Settlement. I only hope that, if a United Kingdom of Santo Domingo and Haiti were to take place, that the so called "kreyol aysien" gets to run the same linguistic fate of the Scottish, Irish and Welsh dialects, specially since we have to take into account that the real UK is 90% or more English speaking. In that very same vein I would like Hispaniola to be 90% or more Spanish speaking, Dominican style.
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#6 - Posted 25 October 2011, 10:15 AM
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I surely don't want to celebrate anything related to Rafael Trujillo, except his death. My only regret is that I was too young to participate in the killing, otherwise I would have been the first one, to send him on a one way ticket to hell.
Trujillo and all his sycophants and family can GFT.
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#7 - Posted 25 October 2011, 10:29 AM
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I surely don't want to celebrate anything related to Rafael Trujillo, except his death. My only regret is that I was too young to participate in the killing, otherwise I would have been the first one, to send him on a one way ticket to hell.
Trujillo and all his sycophants and family can GFT.


Lately I've been taking a more sympathetic look at the Trujillo regime..history is written by the victor and we're being fed what the upper echelons of Dominican society have wanted us to believe regarding Trujillo..Trujillo was no friend of theirs.
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#8 - Posted 25 October 2011, 10:33 AM
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I surely don't want to celebrate anything related to Rafael Trujillo, except his death. My only regret is that I was too young to participate in the killing, otherwise I would have been the first one, to send him on a one way ticket to hell.
Trujillo and all his sycophants and family can GFT.


Lately I've been taking a more sympathetic look at the Trujillo regime..history is written by the victor and we're being fed what the upper echelons of Dominican society have wanted us to believe regarding Trujillo..Trujillo was no friend of theirs.


Exactly. One have to look no further than the fact that, before him, Merengue was practically outlawed by our upper echelons, which preferred waltz and other such Euro amenities.
Edited on 10/25/2011 10:33 AM by Lautaro.
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#9 - Posted 25 October 2011, 10:36 AM
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I surely don't want to celebrate anything related to Rafael Trujillo, except his death. My only regret is that I was too young to participate in the killing, otherwise I would have been the first one, to send him on a one way ticket to hell.
Trujillo and all his sycophants and family can GFT.


Lately I've been taking a more sympathetic look at the Trujillo regime..history is written by the victor and we're being fed what the upper echelons of Dominican society have wanted us to believe regarding Trujillo..Trujillo was no friend of theirs.


Exactly. One have to look no further than the fact that, before him, Merengue was practically outlawed by our upper echelons, which preferred waltz and other such Euro amenities.



And I don't by that crap that he forced himself on women. Women have been attracted to money and power since time immemorial and Trujillo had both in spades.
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#10 - Posted 25 October 2011, 10:36 AM
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I surely don't want to celebrate anything related to Rafael Trujillo, except his death. My only regret is that I was too young to participate in the killing, otherwise I would have been the first one, to send him on a one way ticket to hell.
Trujillo and all his sycophants and family can GFT.



Perhaps "Celebration" is not the word or term to be used when dealing with such a historical personality. Commemorate as in to serve as a memorial or reminder of; an acknowledgement of his Historical Significance in Dominican History. For good and ill Trujillo marked our country as no other personality in history. His positives and negatives need to be studied and placed under their proper historical context. No need to sully him more than the historical facts demand, but no need to overstate his positives either. A true accounting of the Era is essential for all Dominicans to have as part of our collective historical narrative.

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