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Cheap drip irrigation could transform small farms

Peter Frykman founded Driptech to provide low-cost drip-irrigation systems to small farmers, hiking their crop yields by 20 to 90 percent.

By Vallabh Rao, Dowser.org / October 20, 2011

Cabbage plants grow in a field where a drip-irrigation system is installed near San Domingo, Cape Verde. Drip irrigation makes maximum use of available water supplies. Making it affordable to small farmers in developing countries presents a challenge.

Six hundred million subsistence farmers lack irrigation water, leaving them locked in poverty. A full third of the world’s population suffers from water scarcity. Without access to affordable water-efficient irrigation, small-plot farmers are unable to grow crops during much of the year. And without marketable produce, already meager incomes decline, and farmers can become unable to even meet the nutritional needs of their own families.



In the spring of 2008, Peter Frykman visited farmers in Ethiopia as part of a course during his PhD studies in mechanical engineering at Stanford University. Frykman arrived in the middle of the worst drought Ethiopia had experienced in 20 years.

The drip-irrigation products that were locally available were too expensive for most farmers and seldom worked properly. Frykman returned to Stanford and invented a new manufacturing technology that makes clean, consistent holes in super-low-cost plastic tubing.



After successfully validating the system with farmers in India, Frykman left his PhD program in 2009 to focus on growing Driptech – a privately held, for-profit social enterprise that designs and manufactures low-cost drip-irrigation systems for small-plot farmers in the developing world.

During 2009, Driptech sold 200 units to municipal government officials in Lingqiu, China, for local farmers. Driptech has also raised seed funding from two European social investment funds, including LGT Venture Philanthropy, and a variety of successful entrepreneurs.

Dowser recently caught up with Frykman to learn more about Driptech's technology.

Dowser: What is your geographic focus?

Frykman: We are targeting farmers in India and China first, based on the large number of farmers, the high usage of agricultural water, the low penetration of drip irrigation, and the prevalence of viable distribution channels. There are over 500 million farms of five acres or less around the world, and the majority of them are in India and China.

In India, there are 119 million farming households with plots of land of five acres or less, or 89 percent of all farms in India. Irrigated land represents 34 percent of arable land and permanent crops in India. Drip irrigation penetration in India is only 2 percent of arable land and is concentrated with larger commercial farms. We are initially focusing on farmers who have access to some source of water and are currently irrigating their crops without drip irrigation.

In China, there are about 193 million farms of five acres or less, which account for 95 percent of farms there. About 37 percent of arable land and permanent crops are irrigated there. As of 2007, only 0.4 percent of farmland in China was drip irrigated.

How does your distribution model work?

Driptech focuses on the design and manufacturing of drip-irrigation systems and works with local partners from companies, nonprofits, and governments that currently work with small farmers. Examples include companies that sell fertilizer, seeds, or farm equipment; companies that purchase crops from small farmers; nonprofits doing agricultural extension work; and agricultural and water bureaus in state and local governments.

Our product is much simpler to sell and install than traditional drip irrigation and hence can be sold through many more channels. Today we primarily distribute through agriproducts companies in India and through governments in China. In three to five years, we expect to distribute our products in several additional countries.



We provide training to the employees of our distribution partners dedicated to our account on how to install our drip irrigation system, and they go on and train the farmers on how to install our system post sale.

We also work with our partners to develop training and marketing materials.

How can drip irrigation have an impact on farming, especially small plot farmers?

In order to feed the world in the next 40 years, global food output will need to climb 70 percent. The agriculture sector currently uses 70 percent of the world’s fresh water resources and 80 percent of the world’s farmland.

The challenge of meeting future human agricultural needs is not just about increasing yield: It’s about increasing yield while decreasing the amount of water agriculture demands. The agriculture sector in developing countries is especially water inefficient using 81 percent of their total freshwater resources, much of which is wasted through inefficient irrigation techniques.

Many smallholder farmers currently work to feed their families with the food they produce, but have little or nothing left over to sell in the marketplace. The installation of a Driptech system allows these farmers to grow crops year-round while conserving water, labor, and time.

Drip irrigation increases crop yields by 20 to 90 percent. Farmers are able to produce enough vegetables to meet their own families’ nutritional needs, grow additional crops to sell in local markets, and grow high-value crops during the dry season. Crops grown using Driptech’s product have brought some farmers 50 to 150 percent higher market prices. The cost of a system is usually repaid within six months through yield increase and water and labor savings.

In addition, Driptech’s decentralized manufacturing model will deploy production facilities directly to where the product is sold, adding jobs to rural economies while allowing for local customization of the systems and additional cost reductions.

Could Driptech technology be applied in Somalia?

In the case of Somalia, the farmers must rely on the rain since there is little water infrastructure help from the government. In this case, Driptech's system would help these small-plot farmers use their meager water supplies more efficiently so that they could have enough water to irrigate their land throughout the dry season.

Our system could also help these farmers increase their crop yields and quality of their crop, providing them and their families with more nutritious calories. Basically, along with appropriate farming techniques, a Driptech system would help dampen the effects of drought by helping people avoid not being able to feed themselves.
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Pork without a pig? Meat from a lab could be the answer. World Population near 7 Billion!
Later this month, perhaps on the 31 of Oct, the World will reach 7 Billion people Below are the projections until 2050 when the World's population will reach over 9 Billion people How to feed such an enormous population will entail a great increase in the productivity of food production. Will stem cells be the key to such an explosive growth in food production

2011 7 billion
2020 7.6 billion
2027 8 billion
2030 8.2 billion
2040 8.8 billion
2046 9 billion
2050 9.2 billion
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/


Pork without a pig? Meat from a lab could be the answer.

Scientists are experimenting with growing meat directly from stem cells. Cost and quality questions remain, but 'artificial' meat could end animal slaughter and be easier on the environment.

By Grant Potter, Nourishing the Planet / October 24, 2011

A dealer shows off a small pig during the 2011 Agricultural Fair in Harbin, capital of northeast China's Heilongjiang Province. Scientists are working to produce pork directly from stem cells, without the need to feed and raise an animal.



The most expensive piece of meat in the world – costing about “US $12,000 per kilo” (2.2 pounds) – does not come from a ranch but a laboratory. The meat is grown in vitro, without killing a living animal.



The material required for in vitro meat is gathered by “a relatively harmless muscle biopsy from a pig, cow, sheep, chicken,” says Nicola Jones, author of a recent article on in vitro meat. From this extracted muscle tissue, researchers separate myosatellite cells, which are adult stem cells used to grow and repair the animal’s muscles after exercise or injury.

Stem cells are important to this process because they can self-divide and multiply their numbers to create a mass of cells where there once was only one. These myosatellite cells are incubated in a petri dish with a substance designed to cause cell division and provide nutrients for muscle growth.


Yet the practice has not quite caught up to the theory. There are a number of hurdles that scientists must overcome before large-scale growth can occur.

“The myosatellite cells will divide only a limited number of times,” according to Jones, making it difficult to produce high volumes of meat.

Mark Post, a physiology professor at Eindhoven University of Technology in the Netherlands, for example, has been unable to produce enough meat to make a single sausage, which will “require another year of research and at least $250,000”.

Additionally, the muscles atrophy without the animal to exercise them naturally. Post describes the meat he has produced as “weak and without texture.” Although researchers are forbidden from tasting their creations, Post describes a TV journalist who stealthily ate a piece and described it as “chewy and tasteless.” The price and taste of in vitro meat must be dramatically improved before artificial meat is “even remotely competitive with current products,” says Post.

Despite lacking feasibility for large-scale production, in vitro meat inspires excitement because it is an alternative to status quo meat production, which is increasingly viewed as ecologically unsustainable.

Modern meat production causes many forms of “environmental degradation,” says a report published in Environmental Health Perspectives (EHP). The report continues, “meat production contributes disproportionately to these problems, in part because feeding grain to livestock to produce meat – instead of feeding it directly to humans – involves a large energy loss.”


A New York Times article estimates that “two to five times more grain is required to produce the same amount of calories through livestock as through direct grain consumption.” Despite this inefficient trade-off, “roughly one third of grain is consumed by domestic animals,” says Joel Cohen, professor of population studies at Columbia University.

By not requiring food, in vitro meat frees up grain resources, which reaps “environmental benefits” and “benefits against world starvation,” according to Post.

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A push to farm smarter – not bigger – to feed the world's hungry
A push to farm smarter – not bigger – to feed the world's hungry

With famine in Africa and food prices at record highs, governments and agencies around the globe are looking to educate small farmers about more efficient, sustainable agriculture practices.

By Sara Miller Llana, Staff writer, Ben Arnoldy, Staff writer / September 20, 2011

Elvira Portillo was persuaded by neighbor Porfirio Bastida to try conservation agriculture on her farm in Texcoco, Mexico. So far they are the only two of some 300 local farmers to do so.

Sara Miller Llana/The Christian Science Monitor


Texcoco, Mexico; and New Delhi

For more than 30 years, Porfirio Bastida never considered changing the way he farms his 1.2 acre cornfield in Texcoco, in the central Mexican highlands.


But rainfall patterns were changing and water seemed to be scarcer. Each year, he says, he was investing more and harvesting less.

So he joined forces with a nearby research institute called the International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center (CIMMYT). It helped him switch from the practices he'd employed his whole life to conservation-agriculture techniques: rotating crops, not tilling, leaving residue from the previous harvest to act as a sponge atop the land.

IN PICTURES: Food security in Africa

“The land gives to us, and we have to give something back,” says the wiry farmer, in dark pants and honey-colored imitation-crocodile boots. The practices, he says, are not only good for the environment. He has doubled his production in three years, he says, and is investing half. “Many are abandoning their land, but for me, this land is sacred. … I am happy to have this little piece of land and conserve it.”

CIMMYT, in partnership with the Mexican government, has reached 3,500 farmers throughout Mexico in the past year alone. While many of the practices they are instilling are not new, aid groups and governments around the world are revamping similar efforts after decades of focusing on different development goals.

The new focus on boosting small farmers is fueled by record-high food prices and renewed attention to hunger with more than 12 million people in the Horn of Africa suffering from drought and famine. Many aid experts also now see the small farmer as the long-term solution to hunger, with the global population estimated to reach 9 billion people by 2050, requiring a 70 percent increase from current food production.

"Food prices and volatility have drawn political urgency to the issue," says Lisa Dreier, the director of Food Security and Development Issues for the World Economic Forum USA. "And with drought-and climate-related events, people have become more aware of the fact that a more sustainable approach to agriculture is needed."

Boosting the small farmer

The United States is rolling out agricultural partnerships around the globe, particularly through its $3 billion Feed the Future Initiative, led by the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It began in 2009 and works with 20 countries in Africa, Latin America, and Asia. One of its stated goals is "to leverage $70 billion in private investment in agriculture that improves sustainable market opportunities and linkages with smallholder farmers."

The United Nations recently called upon governments to invest some $2 trillion to help small-scale farming. The World Economic Forum has launched a new initiative called "Realizing a New Vision for Agriculture," which works with the private sector to invest in small, sustainable practices. And the UN Special Rapporteur on the right to food, Olivier de Schutter, is promoting agroecology, the study of how agriculture can best fit within ecosystems and efficiently use of natural resources, a push he says has been well-received by governments and agencies around the globe.

“This is a very important victory, and a significant shift away from the oversimplified discourse that hunger and malnutrition shall be effectively combated by seeking to increase production at all cost, whatever the social and environmental conditions,” he says in an email.

This is not the first time the world has urged a major rethinking of agriculture. The Green Revolution begun in the 1940s dramatically increased world agricultural output with new high-yield varieties of wheat. CiMMYT in Mexico, under the leadership of the late Nobel laureate Norman Borlaug, played a central role in the revolution, which later played out in India.

But after its successes, the international development community turned its attention elsewhere. By 2008, before the food crisis, USAID devoted only 1 percent of its budget to agricultural programs. Developing nations also focused elsewhere; India's attention, for example, was on its high-tech sector and growing cities.

But price spikes for food, stagnating farm yields, and the revelation that nearly 1 billion people are facing hunger today have spurred major reinvestments in agriculture. Yet the challenges this time around are different from the days of the Green Revolution. If the goal then was to dramatically boost food production, today experts say that reducing ecological impact must go hand-in-hand with increased production.

An 'Evergreen Revolution'

India calls its revamped agricultural efforts – watched closely and supported by the US – an "Evergreen Revolution." "The Green Revolution should become evergreen by increasing productivity in perpetuity without ecological harm," says M.S. Swaminathan, India's top agricultural expert.

Small farmers in regions like the Punjab, he says, used to barely grow enough to feed their own families. With the introduction of chemical fertilizers and pesticides, these farmers finally could sell excess crops for cash. But with little land to work, they kept increasing the chemicals and irrigation to squeeze more out of it. Now the water is polluted – and running out.

Mr. Swaminathan says Indian farmers are scaling back on chemicals for this reason. But they need help in adopting smarter farming practices that increase yields in more sustainable ways. And the US also is sounding the same message. “We must encourage the adoption of proved technologies such as biotechnology, conservation tillage, drip irrigation, and multiple cropping practices for farmers where appropriate,” said US Secretary of Agriculture Tom Visack this spring.

Such practices are well underway in Mexico. CIMMYT and the government rolled out a program called MasAgro last year, to train small and mid-size to use conservation agricultural practices.

Yet technology and education are only part of the battle. Of the world's hungry, 40 percent to 50 percent are small-scale farmers, says Mr. de Schutter.

"The small farmers are the solution part of this, and they are also the problem. Right now the small farmers in general can't feed themselves," says William Garvelick, former head of Feed the Future.


Farmers also resist trying new practices. In Mr. Bastida’s community of over 300 farmers in Central Mexico, for example, he alone adopted conservation agriculture, recently bringing another neighbor on board. Nearby, in the state of Hidalgo, farmer Ricardo Canales, who farms barley, has set up a 50-hectare experimental field using conservation agriculture in an attempt to persuade other producers to adopt similar practices.

“The only way to change their minds is to show your neighbors that what you are doing works,” he says.

What do you think about the idea of smaller farms?
Edited on 10/27/2011 12:40 PM by Atabey.

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Smaller farms and smallholdings for part time farmers are essential in many countries. Large scale farming is resource intensive and often is not the best for sustainability.
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A push to farm smarter – not bigger – to feed the world's hungry

With famine in Africa and food prices at record highs, governments and agencies around the globe are looking to educate small farmers about more efficient, sustainable agriculture practices.

By Sara Miller Llana, Staff writer, Ben Arnoldy, Staff writer / September 20, 2011

Elvira Portillo was persuaded by neighbor Porfirio Bastida to try conservation agriculture on her farm in Texcoco, Mexico. So far they are the only two of some 300 local farmers to do so.

Sara Miller Llana/The Christian Science Monitor


Texcoco, Mexico; and New Delhi

For more than 30 years, Porfirio Bastida never considered changing the way he farms his 1.2 acre cornfield in Texcoco, in the central Mexican highlands.


But rainfall patterns were changing and water seemed to be scarcer. Each year, he says, he was investing more and harvesting less.

So he joined forces with a nearby research institute called the International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center (CIMMYT). It helped him switch from the practices he'd employed his whole life to conservation-agriculture techniques: rotating crops, not tilling, leaving residue from the previous harvest to act as a sponge atop the land.

IN PICTURES: Food security in Africa

“The land gives to us, and we have to give something back,” says the wiry farmer, in dark pants and honey-colored imitation-crocodile boots. The practices, he says, are not only good for the environment. He has doubled his production in three years, he says, and is investing half. “Many are abandoning their land, but for me, this land is sacred. … I am happy to have this little piece of land and conserve it.”

CIMMYT, in partnership with the Mexican government, has reached 3,500 farmers throughout Mexico in the past year alone. While many of the practices they are instilling are not new, aid groups and governments around the world are revamping similar efforts after decades of focusing on different development goals.

The new focus on boosting small farmers is fueled by record-high food prices and renewed attention to hunger with more than 12 million people in the Horn of Africa suffering from drought and famine. Many aid experts also now see the small farmer as the long-term solution to hunger, with the global population estimated to reach 9 billion people by 2050, requiring a 70 percent increase from current food production.

"Food prices and volatility have drawn political urgency to the issue," says Lisa Dreier, the director of Food Security and Development Issues for the World Economic Forum USA. "And with drought-and climate-related events, people have become more aware of the fact that a more sustainable approach to agriculture is needed."

Boosting the small farmer

The United States is rolling out agricultural partnerships around the globe, particularly through its $3 billion Feed the Future Initiative, led by the US Agency for International Development (USAID). It began in 2009 and works with 20 countries in Africa, Latin America, and Asia. One of its stated goals is "to leverage $70 billion in private investment in agriculture that improves sustainable market opportunities and linkages with smallholder farmers."

The United Nations recently called upon governments to invest some $2 trillion to help small-scale farming. The World Economic Forum has launched a new initiative called "Realizing a New Vision for Agriculture," which works with the private sector to invest in small, sustainable practices. And the UN Special Rapporteur on the right to food, Olivier de Schutter, is promoting agroecology, the study of how agriculture can best fit within ecosystems and efficiently use of natural resources, a push he says has been well-received by governments and agencies around the globe.

“This is a very important victory, and a significant shift away from the oversimplified discourse that hunger and malnutrition shall be effectively combated by seeking to increase production at all cost, whatever the social and environmental conditions,” he says in an email.

This is not the first time the world has urged a major rethinking of agriculture. The Green Revolution begun in the 1940s dramatically increased world agricultural output with new high-yield varieties of wheat. CiMMYT in Mexico, under the leadership of the late Nobel laureate Norman Borlaug, played a central role in the revolution, which later played out in India.

But after its successes, the international development community turned its attention elsewhere. By 2008, before the food crisis, USAID devoted only 1 percent of its budget to agricultural programs. Developing nations also focused elsewhere; India's attention, for example, was on its high-tech sector and growing cities.

But price spikes for food, stagnating farm yields, and the revelation that nearly 1 billion people are facing hunger today have spurred major reinvestments in agriculture. Yet the challenges this time around are different from the days of the Green Revolution. If the goal then was to dramatically boost food production, today experts say that reducing ecological impact must go hand-in-hand with increased production.

An 'Evergreen Revolution'

India calls its revamped agricultural efforts – watched closely and supported by the US – an "Evergreen Revolution." "The Green Revolution should become evergreen by increasing productivity in perpetuity without ecological harm," says M.S. Swaminathan, India's top agricultural expert.

Small farmers in regions like the Punjab, he says, used to barely grow enough to feed their own families. With the introduction of chemical fertilizers and pesticides, these farmers finally could sell excess crops for cash. But with little land to work, they kept increasing the chemicals and irrigation to squeeze more out of it. Now the water is polluted – and running out.

Mr. Swaminathan says Indian farmers are scaling back on chemicals for this reason. But they need help in adopting smarter farming practices that increase yields in more sustainable ways. And the US also is sounding the same message. “We must encourage the adoption of proved technologies such as biotechnology, conservation tillage, drip irrigation, and multiple cropping practices for farmers where appropriate,” said US Secretary of Agriculture Tom Visack this spring.

Such practices are well underway in Mexico. CIMMYT and the government rolled out a program called MasAgro last year, to train small and mid-size to use conservation agricultural practices.

Yet technology and education are only part of the battle. Of the world's hungry, 40 percent to 50 percent are small-scale farmers, says Mr. de Schutter.

"The small farmers are the solution part of this, and they are also the problem. Right now the small farmers in general can't feed themselves," says William Garvelick, former head of Feed the Future.


Farmers also resist trying new practices. In Mr. Bastida’s community of over 300 farmers in Central Mexico, for example, he alone adopted conservation agriculture, recently bringing another neighbor on board. Nearby, in the state of Hidalgo, farmer Ricardo Canales, who farms barley, has set up a 50-hectare experimental field using conservation agriculture in an attempt to persuade other producers to adopt similar practices.

“The only way to change their minds is to show your neighbors that what you are doing works,” he says.

What do you think about the idea of smaller farms?

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Later this month, perhaps on the 31 of Oct, the World will reach 7 Billion people Below are the projections until 2050 when the World's population will reach over 9 Billion people How to feed such an enormous population will entail a great increase in the productivity of food production. Will stem cells be the key to such an explosive growth in food production

2011 7 billion
2020 7.6 billion
2027 8 billion
2030 8.2 billion
2040 8.8 billion
2046 9 billion
2050 9.2 billion
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/



Pork without a pig? Meat from a lab could be the answer.

Scientists are experimenting with growing meat directly from stem cells. Cost and quality questions remain, but 'artificial' meat could end animal slaughter and be easier on the environment."

ABC,

How would you like your piggies coming from stem cells??

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Durng the last push to feed the world in the 70's scientists came up with Quorn.

I have eaten this many times - its a regular supermarket item in the UK.

So now I can have fish-less fish fingers!

http://www.quorn.co.uk/Home/

http://www.quorn.co.uk/The-Quorn-Story/

So maybe evey country with a protein deficiency problem should get a few quorn plants.

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Later this month, perhaps on the 31 of Oct, the World will reach 7 Billion people Below are the projections until 2050 when the World's population will reach over 9 Billion people How to feed such an enormous population will entail a great increase in the productivity of food production. Will stem cells be the key to such an explosive growth in food production

2011 7 billion
2020 7.6 billion
2027 8 billion
2030 8.2 billion
2040 8.8 billion
2046 9 billion
2050 9.2 billion
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/



Pork without a pig? Meat from a lab could be the answer.

Scientists are experimenting with growing meat directly from stem cells. Cost and quality questions remain, but 'artificial' meat could end animal slaughter and be easier on the environment."

ABC,

How would you like your piggies coming from stem cells??


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There are more than enough resources to go around. The problem is Governments

The 25 Poorest Countries in the world

1. Burundi
2. Congo, Democratic Republic of the
3. Liberia
4. Zimbabwe
5. Eritrea
6. Somalia
7. Central African Republic
8. Niger
9. Malawi
10. Afghanistan
11. Madagascar
12. Sierra Leone
13. Togo
14. Comoros
15. Ethiopia
16. Guinea
17. Mozambique
18. Guinea-Bissau
19. Rwanda
20. Burkina Faso
21. Haiti
22. Mali
23. Nepal
24. Uganda
25. Burma

http://www.aneki.com/countries2.php?t=Poorest_Countries_in_the_World&table=fb129&places=2=*&order=asc&orderby=fb129.value&decimals=--&dependency=independent&number=all&cntdn=asc&r=-78-79-80-81-82-83-84-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-94&c=&measures=Country--GDP%20per%20capita&units=--$&file=poorest

What do these country have in common?

They all either have governments that rejected the Free Market or refuse to guarantee private property rights(Or trying to dig themselves out of the morass caused by it)

Nobody is starving in Singapore or was starving in Hong Kong even though they have ZERO natural resources. Japan created a economic powerhouse with little natural resources and a extremely dense population.
Edited on 10/29/2011 2:22 PM by anthonyC.
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[QUOTE=anthonyC]
There are more than enough resources to go around. The problem is Governments

[B]The 25 Poorest Countries in the world[/B]

1. Burundi
2. Congo, Democratic Republic of the
3. Liberia
4. Zimbabwe
5. Eritrea
6. Somalia
7. Central African Republic
8. Niger
9. Malawi
10. Afghanistan
11. Madagascar
12. Sierra Leone
13. Togo
14. Comoros
15. Ethiopia
16. Guinea
17. Mozambique
18. Guinea-Bissau
19. Rwanda
20. Burkina Faso
21. Haiti
22. Mali
23. Nepal
24. Uganda
25. Burma

[URL]http://www.aneki.com/countries2.php?t=Poorest_Countries_in_the_World&table=fb129&places=2=*&order=asc&orderby=fb129.value&decimals=--&dependency=independent&number=all&cntdn=asc&r=-78-79-80-81-82-83-84-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-94&c=&measures=Country--GDP%20per%20capita&units=--$&file=poorest[/URL]

What do these country have in common?

They all either have governments that rejected the Free Market or refuse to guarantee private property rights(Or trying to dig themselves out of the morass caused by it)

Nobody is starving in Singapore or was starving in Hong Kong even though they have ZERO natural resources. Japan created a economic powerhouse with little natural resources and a extremely dense population.
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[B]
I Agree AC.

But the question put forth is about feeding an extra 2-3 billion new mouths by the end of this century. How will this be done? The Private sector surely has a role to play and these nascent experiments with stem-cells appear to be a way forward. And since they involve no cruelty to animals, and no Cow flatulence which produces the greenhouse gas methane, which is linked to global warming, I thought ABC would be foursquare behind the development.

[URL]http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/zoology/mammals/methane-cow.htm [/B][/URL]

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But the question put forth is about feeding an extra 2-3 billion new mouths by the end of this century. How will this be done? The Private sector surely has a role to play



That is it. Let the free market work it's magic. The less government intervention the less people starve.
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#10 - Posted 29 October 2011, 3:10 PM
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RE: A push to farm smarter – not bigger – to feed the world's hungry World Pop. is near 7 Billion!
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But the question put forth is about feeding an extra 2-3 billion new mouths by the end of this century. How will this be done? The Private sector surely has a role to play



That is it. Let the free market work it's magic. The less government intervention the less people starve.




No, the Green revolution was a partnership between governments and private organisations with great results.
Governments did the fundamental research and numerous companies, organisations and individuals exploited these results.
I am 100% in agreement with the individual farm and farmer ; but if there is not enough research or education there is sure failure.
In many parts of India agricultural colleges run by governments etc. showed local farmers how to icrease yeillds and coserve the land. Organisation of irrigation above the free market was necessay.
The famines in India in the early part of the century were the result of non intravention by the British rulers.'
Endless land disputes and each player - water, land ownership, supply chain, farming supplies was out to maximimie profit - the result was very poor.
Ghandi introduced a series of measures that allowed the farmers to farm without excessive exploitation by rich landlords, water suppliers etc. etc.

Sadly Ghandi's farm in South Africa faces an uncertain future
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/aug/25/gandhi-s-african-farm-faces-uncertain-future.htm
But to be sure Ghandi learnt from this experience and had many good advisors in India.

Now his name lives on in assistance projects in India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi_National_Rural_Employment_Guarantee_Act

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