| #1 - Posted 30 October 2011, 7:59 AM | |
Location: Netherlands Join date: July 2011 Member #: 8446 Posts: 300 | The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Lately I've been trying to learn Spanish so that I can speak to Dominicans next time I go to DR. Yet one thing has been bothering me and I don't know how to solve it. That problem is the difference between Spanish like they speak it in Spain(and teach it in Europe) and Dominican Spanish. Because there are plenty of books to learn regular Spanish, but hardly any on how to learn Dominican. So I've been trying to listen to a lot of bachata and watch Sanky Panky a lot, but you can't learn words you don't understand. So what do you guys/girls advice me to do in this situation? The result of a discussion should not be winning, but progress. |
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| #2 - Posted 30 October 2011, 9:13 AM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Quote: HollandaLovesDR previously said: Lately I've been trying to learn Spanish so that I can speak to Dominicans next time I go to DR. Yet one thing has been bothering me and I don't know how to solve it. That problem is the difference between Spanish like they speak it in Spain(and teach it in Europe) and Dominican Spanish. Because there are plenty of books to learn regular Spanish, but hardly any on how to learn Dominican. So I've been trying to listen to a lot of bachata and watch Sanky Panky a lot, but you can't learn words you don't understand. So what do you guys/girls advice me to do in this situation? Do the yourself, the Dominican Republic and the rest of us a favor and learn proper Castillian. The local vernacular will come along in time. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #3 - Posted 30 October 2011, 1:26 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 12104 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: HollandaLovesDR previously said: Lately I've been trying to learn Spanish so that I can speak to Dominicans next time I go to DR. Yet one thing has been bothering me and I don't know how to solve it. That problem is the difference between Spanish like they speak it in Spain(and teach it in Europe) and Dominican Spanish. Because there are plenty of books to learn regular Spanish, but hardly any on how to learn Dominican. So I've been trying to listen to a lot of bachata and watch Sanky Panky a lot, but you can't learn words you don't understand. So what do you guys/girls advice me to do in this situation? Do the yourself, the Dominican Republic and the rest of us a favor and learn proper Castillian. The local vernacular will come along in time. Yes, good advice AC. There are no easy ways around your predicament Holland because the learning can only come about via immersion Edited on 10/30/2011 9:48 PM by Atabey. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck |
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| #4 - Posted 30 October 2011, 1:27 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 12104 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican . Edited on 10/30/2011 1:27 PM by Atabey. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck |
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| #5 - Posted 30 October 2011, 9:15 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: January 2011 Member #: 6646 Posts: 1028 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican I also recommend learning proper "general" spanish first, then Dominican. Like any other language, there are people who speak it well and those who do not. Dominican Spanish is full of unique words, phrases, expressions, slang, doble sentido and words that have been adopted from English. So if you attempt to learn Dominican Spanish without a decent foundation of "castellano" then you may do yourself more harm than good since in certain context you do want to speak proper Spanish. Getting an ear for Dominican Spanish comes with time. Watching Dominican television shows, listening to the radio, and of course talking to Dominicans will gradually expose you to the more common Dominican Spanish. |
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| #6 - Posted 31 October 2011, 1:51 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic Join date: November 2010 Member #: 6273 Posts: 75 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Like the others have already stated, you should learn proper spanish first and then progress to learning dominican spanish. As you may already know, dominican spanish is FULL of slang and phrases that make dominicans sound, well, dominican. It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty. We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit lol. It's kind of like trying to learn Jamaican patois without knowing any english. Have a foundation of Spanish first, so it makes learning any other dialects easier. Then just hang around dominicans, listen to our music (if you like), and just immerse yourself in our culture. |
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| #7 - Posted 31 October 2011, 4:01 PM | |
Location: Netherlands Join date: July 2011 Member #: 8446 Posts: 300 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Thanks for all the good advice. I really appreciate it a lot. I think I know enough to be on my way and learn Dominican Spanish. So first I'll create a foundation by learning from those Spanish For Dummies books, watching TVE and listen to bachata. Actually the speaking part is the easiest. Maybe it's just me, but I think Spanish speaking people in general speak fast. So most of the time I recognize words and try to make a story in my head. Critically looking at myself I'd say I understand about 15 to 20% of what is said in Spanish conversations/music/tv. But then again I've only been studying it for a little les then a year next to school and work. So in a solid 4-5 years I'll be at a decent level The result of a discussion should not be winning, but progress. |
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| #8 - Posted 2 November 2011, 10:25 PM | |
Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5015 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Quote: Edwin514 previously said: Like the others have already stated, you should learn proper spanish first and then progress to learning dominican spanish. As you may already know, dominican spanish is FULL of slang and phrases that make dominicans sound, well, dominican. It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty. We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit lol. It's kind of like trying to learn Jamaican patois without knowing any english. Have a foundation of Spanish first, so it makes learning any other dialects easier. Then just hang around dominicans, listen to our music (if you like), and just immerse yourself in our culture. "It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty". "We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit" lol. I totally do not agree with your comments on Dominican Spanish... The origen of Dominican Spanish in pronunciations with words in their syllables comes from the Canary Islands and the Andalusian regions of Spain. We actually have retained some of the purest forms of Spanish from the earlier days than say a country like Mexico. Mexico resisted any form of Andalusian Spanish to the utmost which explains the heavy usage of the letter S. Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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| #9 - Posted 2 November 2011, 11:39 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: March 2008 Member #: 522 Posts: 5804 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Quote: mirabal4ever previously said: Quote: Edwin514 previously said: Like the others have already stated, you should learn proper spanish first and then progress to learning dominican spanish. As you may already know, dominican spanish is FULL of slang and phrases that make dominicans sound, well, dominican. It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty. We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit lol. It's kind of like trying to learn Jamaican patois without knowing any english. Have a foundation of Spanish first, so it makes learning any other dialects easier. Then just hang around dominicans, listen to our music (if you like), and just immerse yourself in our culture. "It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty". "We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit" lol. I totally do not agree with your comments on Dominican Spanish... The origen of Dominican Spanish in pronunciations with words in their syllables comes from the Canary Islands and the Andalusian regions of Spain. We actually have retained some of the purest forms of Spanish from the earlier days than say a country like Mexico. Mexico resisted any form of Andalusian Spanish to the utmost which explains the heavy usage of the letter S. Your are positively correct Mirabal. Contrary to popular belief our Spanish is most definitely more authentic and we have preserved many words and forms of expression common to those regions of Spain. However, let us not confuse street slang and americanism, words that have been placed in practice because of the US influence that has nothing to do with Dominican Spanish. One example of one Dominican word not used in other Latin countries is the once very common word for money "cuartos" is of Iberian origin. Edited on 11/2/2011 11:46 PM by guillermone. |
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| #10 - Posted 2 November 2011, 11:43 PM | |
Location: United States, OMNIPRESENT. El Cantinero de Jarabacoa. "Aguilucho desde Chiquitito" Join date: March 2009 Member #: 2380 Posts: 5015 | RE: The difference between learning Spanish and Dominican Quote: guillermone previously said: Quote: mirabal4ever previously said: Quote: Edwin514 previously said: Like the others have already stated, you should learn proper spanish first and then progress to learning dominican spanish. As you may already know, dominican spanish is FULL of slang and phrases that make dominicans sound, well, dominican. It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty. We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit lol. It's kind of like trying to learn Jamaican patois without knowing any english. Have a foundation of Spanish first, so it makes learning any other dialects easier. Then just hang around dominicans, listen to our music (if you like), and just immerse yourself in our culture. "It's even sometimes considered the worst dialect of spanish in Latin America, hinting at its peculiarity and difficulty". "We drop s's and d's etc. and speak fast. We just fuck up shit" lol. I totally do not agree with your comments on Dominican Spanish... The origen of Dominican Spanish in pronunciations with words in their syllables comes from the Canary Islands and the Andalusian regions of Spain. We actually have retained some of the purest forms of Spanish from the earlier days than say a country like Mexico. Mexico resisted any form of Andalusian Spanish to the utmost which explains the heavy usage of the letter S. That is positively correct Mirabal. Contrary to popular belief of Spanish is most definitel more authentic and we have preserved many words and forms of expression common to those regions of Spain. However, let us not confuse street slang and americanism, words that have been placed in practice of because of the US influence that has nothing to do with Dominican Spanish. Exactly Patriot!!! I am not denying the slang that is prominent in Dominican Spanish. I think that many Latinos use the slang that Dominicans use against them by using the excuse that our Spanish is not correct. Conocer al cojo sentao! Las Aguilas son Las Aguilas!!!!!!!! |
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