brasilenosisback previously said:



The actual orgin of dominican spanish comes from the mixture of African slaves, Spanish conquisadors and Tiano Indians who are well extinct. To learn moreabout this simply send me a PM and I will give the full and correct history of Dominican Spanish.

mirabal4ever previously said:


I do not take lessons from Girly Trolls...

xwill7 previously said:


I was not going to name the towns because of all of the perros on this site. But you just released the best areas in DR

mirabal4ever previously said:

Bemba writes: "Our Perico Ripiao and Palos is obviously very African influenced"

How could anyone put such totally different types of music in the same sentence?

mirabal4ever previously said:


He forgot Mi Jarabacoa..

xwill7 previously said:


Dimelo loko! Tu esta en Jarabacoa bebiendo todas las frias?

Lemba previously said:



Namecalling, is something that people without answers resort to. Instead of quoting me, please show me how different they are. I am a musician, and i play both Palo and Merengue, i can tell you very easily that they are very related.

1. The roll n the tambora has been used in Palo for ages, from Santiago Rodriguez to La Romana.

2. Perico Ripiao uses call and response like Palo, although in difference some merengue's are not all call and response.

3. When there is no call and response in Merengue, and its sung in spanish form, it becomes Africanized by the accordion who RESPONDS to the singer. Listen to the accordionist and how the accordion responds like a voice to their singing. For example..

Antonio Rogando (Pi ri ri) A los pecadores (Pi ri ri), Uno ponen Vela (Pi ri ri) Otro ponen flore (Piriri)

Each (Piriri) is an accordion riff, clearly responding to the singer, so boht musics have call and response.

4. Please listen closely to alot of Tatico Henrqiuez recordings you will notice that the guy playing the Tambora goes into some wild rolls nad riffs and does many Palo toques, specially what the smallest drum in Palo does, Tap Tap, Tap Tap, Tap Tap. Also i gotta find you the name, there is one Tatico Henriquez song that starts out with the tapping of the Palo 3-2 Clave, which is similar to the one in salsa but with more spacing after the first 3.

5. Here is a great example of Palo in Salcedo, listen to the Palo mayor riffing, its CLEARLY the same as Merengue, or Merengue is the same as it, LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCj0elMxzF4&feature=related

6. Here is Palo from La Vega, similar result, look at the Palo Mayor, clearly that roll is releated to merengue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCJmYcTUobM&feature=related

Lemba previously said:

LOL, no mamajuana would have been great. However these i have collected very randomly, because my grandmother says them when she feels them appropiate. There are words in spanish that don't describe the exact state, so perhaps these African words, as most of them are clearly Bantu, would maybe have more specific descriptions. I agree that most of these words are not country wide, or even region or even city wide. I acknowledge that some parts of my family do have some linguistic peculiarities that are perhaps from maroon heritage. I have mentioned alot of these words and most Dominicans don't know about it, but some i have heard across regions. I met a friend from Villa Altagracia which is bordering San Cristobal province and Bonao, and she had heard of the word Lembota, and it means the same exact thing there. Also in the smaller towns of the duarte province i have heard people use some of these words, the older people. For example one of myr cousins grandmothers in pimentel is named Monga, and its not because she's a "mongolica" as dominican-americans use it, LOL. But because she has as slight limp to her walk.

I got a new word today my grandmother telling me to throw out somethigns said "Vete a bajai eso Korotoh'" Accent on the last O. For some time as a kid i thought some of my grandmas speech was just made up, i grew up thinking it was just stuff she'd make up. But then i did some research, turns out most of these words are clearly African as they show up as town names, some of them are also in context with some bantu languages.

Again i am not saying all Cibaenyos speak liek this, but perhaps in pred. black parts of the cibao, or in Maroon villages in the Cibao, or across the island there where Dominicans using these terms. Perhaps my grandmothers words are a renmant of one time when there was some sort of creole in the mountains.

Same happens with some Families that are very Taino genetically and culturally as in the case of Baracutey whose family uses some Taino words that are not in common use by the average Dominican.

But then u'd hav to ask yourself, wouldn't some of these isolted communities be good representatives of a much older contiuum of culture.

Interesting that one of the posters here mentioned that pred. black town because there was plantatoins there, these cases are very common in some parts and in some parts not. I happen to be from a part where not only was there slavery but heavy maroonage, the River Yuna which divides Cotui and Duarte province had Maroons, La Vega area had maroons and Samana/Nagua had Maroons.