| #1 - Posted 7 November 2011, 1:40 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | Tourism idea for Samana the Samana Bay is well known for, at least, one thing...whale watching. every year, scores of people flock to watch the migration of these majestic creatures. however, Samana is mired in one of the lowest return rates in all the caribbean region, a paltry 18%. that number is not awe inspiring, as countries like Barbados have numbers in excess of 40%. well, whale watching is a once in a lifetime thing. seen it once, you have seen it. you will be blown away at the spectacle, but it is not something you need to see every year. so, basically, for the rest of the tourism cycle, Samana is dormant. even the cruise ship business is nothing to jump about, since the average expenditure per passenger in that port is reportedly 99 dollars per day. well, it is not news that the DR has to look for tourists other than Euros and North Americans. the economics malaise hits them, too. we have heard that the South Americans are coming, in droves. not a chance. let us get real, here. a massive portion of visitors to these shores come here for the ladies. just like the guys who go to Thailand. well, if i live on the South American continent, and i feel the urge to merge, why would i go all the way to the Dominican Republic, when i can meet more women in the HELP disco in Rio in one night, than i can meet in Santo Domingo in a year? besides, i would rather save my money for carnival in Brazil. which brings me to somethig that crossed my mind. this country has never seemed to have any interest in black people, or institutions. as a result, black people have no interest in it. the fact that there are very few black faces in the tourist hordes is a reflection of outreach. the entire society has a Eurocentric outlook, and it shows. well, african americans do travel. they are also very conscious of ancestry, forebears, and history. their unique history makes them very interested in those who came before them, and what happened to them. that accounts for all those people who go to Africa to see the ¨motherland¨. what better opportunity for a tourist outpost than Samana. there are over 8000 people living there who trace their roots to places like Kentucky. Frederick Douglass visited the area, and spoke there, from a podium. i went there, and met several people with surnames like Smith, Brown, Jones. there is that wonderful old Methodist church there, in all its glory. how about some attempt and effort to market this reality to current day african americans? how about some publicity, and outreach? i can see it now. bed and breakfast hotels, no gigantic all inclusives. a couple of soul food restaurants could come along. some folks would make friends, and, who knows, they could arrange to meet every year, same time, same place, for annual reunions. the opportunity is there. what do you readers think? Edited on 11/7/2011 1:44 PM by dreadlocks. |
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| #2 - Posted 7 November 2011, 1:58 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana Quote: dreadlocks previously said: the Samana Bay is well known for, at least, one thing...whale watching. every year, scores of people flock to watch the migration of these majestic creatures. however, Samana is mired in one of the lowest return rates in all the caribbean region, a paltry 18%. that number is not awe inspiring, as countries like Barbados have numbers in excess of 40%. well, whale watching is a once in a lifetime thing. seen it once, you have seen it. you will be blown away at the spectacle, but it is not something you need to see every year. so, basically, for the rest of the tourism cycle, Samana is dormant. even the cruise ship business is nothing to jump about, since the average expenditure per passenger in that port is reportedly 99 dollars per day. well, it is not news that the DR has to look for tourists other than Euros and North Americans. the economics malaise hits them, too. we have heard that the South Americans are coming, in droves. not a chance. let us get real, here. a massive portion of visitors to these shores come here for the ladies. just like the guys who go to Thailand. well, if i live on the South American continent, and i feel the urge to merge, why would i go all the way to the Dominican Republic, when i can meet more women in the HELP disco in Rio in one night, than i can meet in Santo Domingo in a year? besides, i would rather save my money for carnival in Brazil. which brings me to somethig that crossed my mind. this country has never seemed to have any interest in black people, or institutions. as a result, black people have no interest in it. the fact that there are very few black faces in the tourist hordes is a reflection of outreach. the entire society has a Eurocentric outlook, and it shows. well, african americans do travel. they are also very conscious of ancestry, forebears, and history. their unique history makes them very interested in those who came before them, and what happened to them. that accounts for all those people who go to Africa to see the ¨motherland¨. what better opportunity for a tourist outpost than Samana. there are over 8000 people living there who trace their roots to places like Kentucky. Frederick Douglass visited the area, and spoke there, from a podium. i went there, and met several people with surnames like Smith, Brown, Jones. there is that wonderful old Methodist church there, in all its glory. how about some attempt and effort to market this reality to current day african americans? how about some publicity, and outreach? i can see it now. bed and breakfast hotels, no gigantic all inclusives. a couple of soul food restaurants could come along. some folks would make friends, and, who knows, they could arrange to meet every year, same time, same place, for annual reunions. the opportunity is there. what do you readers think? Good idea but if you are talking about Blacks from the USA you would have to look at studies that show how American blacks rarely travel internationally except to English speaking destinations like Jamaica. Then there is the issue of who is going to finance the needed "Afro-Centric" infrastructure. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #3 - Posted 7 November 2011, 2:13 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, vieja Santo Domingo Join date: April 2008 Member #: 594 Posts: 5142 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana I presume you are talking about the Samana peninsula rather than both sides of Samana Bay which have no road link . I have been to Las Terrenas and to Samana quite a few times and also know quite a few families , black , that used to live there and now live in the east ,,from el Limon. I personally think that las Terrenas is finding its own feet , french and Italian feet but it is now swarming with very poor Haitians who are making life less enjoyable for others .Probably they have come because they can speak french to many French livibg there , Samana itself is rather different and has little to offer and the small group of baby islands joined by a causeway that start near the nice hotel have been partially vandalised and are now filthy,,and when I was there sordid also ...they need a small entry fee to cross the first causeway , I do think Samana needs some theme but not to sure if I like anything based on colour |
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| #4 - Posted 7 November 2011, 2:21 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana anthonyc says Then there is the issue of who is going to finance the needed "Afro-Centric" infrastructure. can you tell me what afrocentic infrastructure means? ricardolito, the theme is not race..it is history. the common thread is not that we would be appealing to people of the same color, but with the same historical aspect. |
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| #5 - Posted 7 November 2011, 2:30 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana Ricardolito, just a sentence that i excerpted from a blog Heritage travel is very popular among some African-Americans; Atlanta, Washington DC, and Ghana are supposedly popular destinations. there is actually a company called African American Travels that focuses its vacation packages on heritage tourism. that is what i had in mind. |
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| #6 - Posted 7 November 2011, 2:48 PM | |
Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 5742 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana Quote: dreadlocks previously said: i can see it now. bed and breakfast hotels, no gigantic all inclusives. a couple of soul food restaurants could come along. some folks would make friends, and, who knows, they could arrange to meet every year, same time, same place, for annual reunions. the opportunity is there. what do you readers think? The idea sounds great, but for it to happen the idea would need to start firstly as a private venture, and it would have to come from someone thinking out of the "all inclusive" box that seems to be the norm here, something which is difficult all by itself, since that would take effort and patience, and people here nowadays aren't for the former or the latter, specially the latter, since the appeal of the all inclusive idea are precisely its quick returns. The effort part would refer to the person or peoples applying it not expecting the help from the state, at least not until the thing starts to show clear signs of profitability. This is my humble assessment of the project. Edited on 11/7/2011 2:58 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince |
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| #7 - Posted 7 November 2011, 8:12 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 7988 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana Quote: dreadlocks previously said: anthonyc says Then there is the issue of who is going to finance the needed "Afro-Centric" infrastructure. can you tell me what afrocentic infrastructure means? ricardolito, the theme is not race..it is history. the common thread is not that we would be appealing to people of the same color, but with the same historical aspect. A museum celebrating the migration from the states, walking tours, signage, restaurants, entertainment all would be needed. Proof of dreadlocks Bigotry. "....... what did Cubans do to deserve preferential treatment?......and treat Black people in the most racist of ways.......... the Cubans are just a bunch of uberracist savages." : I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY POSTS BY THE BIGOT KNOWN AS DREADLOCKS. |
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| #8 - Posted 7 November 2011, 9:01 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana i agree with some of that, anthonyc, but those are not things which cannot be put in place. that is what tourism is...accomodating different groups. heritage tours are nothing new. there are experts in the field who could look into this matter. to my way of thinking, it sure beats having dune buggies driving around through dirt roads in a cane plantation. that gets real old, real fast. |
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| #9 - Posted 7 November 2011, 9:01 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana edit Edited on 11/7/2011 9:03 PM by dreadlocks. |
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| #10 - Posted 7 November 2011, 9:08 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 17818 | RE: Tourism idea for Samana thanks for your input, Mr Lautaro. African Americans do not do much recreational vacationing. they usually head to the towns of their families, come vacation time. you do not see too many of them at Disneyworld and Action Park. very few in Cancun, and places like those. however, it is not because they do not want to go somewhere, as is evidenced by the fact that many go to Africa, to see the ¨homeland¨. maybe, if they knew that some of their relatives ended up here in the DR, and are in the Samana area, it might just spark some interest. with the ability to check family trees on the internet...who knows? some might find that they have relatives in the area, and might have a desire to meet them. just a thought. |
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