| #11 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:04 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 16336 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? [QUOTE=dreadlocks] actually, this is so ludicrous that i should not dignify it with an answer. however, i will I've stated it several times already: DR needs to devote more than 4% of GNP on its educational achievement gap in order to reach modern acceptable standards of educational achievement. All those generations worth of far below levels of spending or investments have caught up to produce our current cohort of functionally illiterate population. If Dready and others think its possible to spend as little as we currently do AND PRODUCE solidly educated individuals than let them show us how. give me PROOF that the education deficit in the DR is caused by underfunding of the system, as opposed to structural problems in the CULTURE. nobody said that it can work at the present level of funding. my point is the opposite. even at higher levels of funding, it is still dead in the water. go read some insights by guys like Mario Vargas, and learn something [/QUOTE] The yellow colour is showing some back bone "give me PROOF that the education deficit in the DR is caused by underfunding of the system," Le dready barks. Let's start with the massive deficit in school buildings in DR and the equipment and other supplies needed for efficient usage. Let's also consider the massive teacher training needs. You don't think that DR doesn't have a major quality of teaching staff issue, Dready How about all those upwards of 100,000 students roaming in the streets and countryside of DR? think their educational opportunities might cost a few million to service There is a reason why many country spend 5,6% and more of their GNP on public education Dready: because it works "The Government of Jamaica dedicates a substantial portion of its gross domestic product to education—6.6 percent in 2004, compared with the Latin America and Caribbean average of 4.0 percent. Nevertheless, funding for education at the primary and secondary levels remains a significant constraint, and existing funds could be better targeted with greater emphasis on quality and effectiveness."[ http://www.beps.net/publications/LAC%20Profiles/LACJamaicaTAG.pdf] Dready 6.6 in 2004. you should tell them to stop and cut it back by half to save money "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck William Arthur Ward - "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. |
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| #12 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:20 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22472 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? says BELL cURVE bOY "give me PROOF that the education deficit in the DR is caused by underfunding of the system," Le dready barks. Let's start with the massive deficit in school buildings in DR and the equipment and other supplies needed for efficient usage. Think DR might need to spend a bit on building, re-building dilapidated structures Let's also consider the massive teacher training needs. You don't think that DR doesn't have a major quality of teaching staff issue, Dready How much will it cost to bridge that qualitative and quantitative gap How about all those upwards of 100,000 students roaming in the streets and countryside of DR? think their educational opportunities might cost a few million to service the moron believes that putting up school buildings will cause kids to go to school, and spend time in a worthwhile fashion. as i have said, i have done a six month study of internet useage among adolescents in this town. i have looked in on some 25 different internet cafes, and watched what people were doing on the internet. 97% of the people i have observed were either on facebook, youtube, or some chat room. nobody using it as a research tool, to help themselves learn something. even if you go to a school with poor facilities, you can use the internet to help yourself. i went to high school with guys who were too poor to buy shoes, and who studied under street lights. now, one is a Doctor, and his brother works at Indian Point, as a nuclear engineer. you have to want it. the CULTURE in the Latin American countries does not place emphasis on education. that is the most important issue. kids go to school as daycare, to give the family a break. as soon as school is over, that is the end of the learning day. it is off to facebook. in Canada, adolescents spend 8 additional hours of unsupervised time studying on their own. what percentage of the week do you think is devoted to homework here? |
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| #13 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:41 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 16336 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Le Dready dog barks, "I've done a 6 months study of internet use" Now we know how some of these funds end up ill serving our youth So let me get this straight: We have massive under-served populations of children in need of education and physical school space is deemed irrelevant by Le barking dog Dready We have a massive qualitative and quantitative gap in providing well educated teachers to serve the Dominican republic. Again, the funding to meet this demand is inadequate, but spending more to get it is deemed unworthy and unnecessary by the barking dog. Take your meds Dready. DR needs to SPEND MORE AND USE ITS INCREASE SPENDING ON REAL EDUCATION not that free-loafing stuff air-mailed to you. Talk about "Botellas" "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck William Arthur Ward - "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. |
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| #14 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:42 PM | |
Location: United Kingdom, Dominican Republic Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 10609 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? HK 4% includes higher education. If basic education is required to be improved perhaps 3% would be good? I am not convinced that university education in many fields in the DR is related to employment opportunities. S. |
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| #15 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:49 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 16336 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Quote: abc200 previously said: HK 4% includes higher education. If basic education is required to be improved perhaps 3% would be good? I am not convinced that university education in many fields in the DR is related to employment opportunities. S. ABC, No one is suggesting that a University degree is necessary for all fields. Certainly hasn't help Le barking dog What I'm suggesting is that a k-12 education is universally needed to lift DR out of its historical educational deficit gap. In order to get to a universal K-12 educational achievement level much more needs to be invested in Primary and Secondary education in DR. 4% is merely the tip of the Iceberg and as with other Latin countries that spend much more than DR-think Costa Rica, Colombia, etc., Increase spending will need to happen if DR is ever to close the achievement gap. To people like Dready who believe that physical schools and materials and well trained staffs aren't necessary go suggested that to YOUR OWN HOMELANDS. See what people there think about spending 2% of GNP on education. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck William Arthur Ward - "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. |
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| #16 - Posted 16 November 2011, 8:58 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22472 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? says Bell Curve Boy ABC, No one is suggesting that a University degree is necessary for all fields. Certainly hasn't help Le barking dog at least i did not lie about having been to college, like you did. then again, you do not find anything wrong in lying, so i am not surprised. moral nihlism is your nature. pitiful upbringing. sad excuse for a human being Edited on 11/16/2011 8:59 PM by dreadlocks. |
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| #17 - Posted 16 November 2011, 9:04 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22472 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Atabey continues to prove why improvements in education are necessary To people like Dready who believe that physical schools and materials and well trained staffs aren't necessary go suggested that to YOUR OWN HOMELANDS. See what people there think about spending 2% of GNP on education. nobody says that plant and equipment, and resources are not necessary. i am merely saying that all of that will not make a difference unless the CULTURE changes. education is something you have to want. have you ever heard about people who drop out of Harvard and Yale, because they do not see the point in higher education? well, it is the same thing when a population does not place a high value on education. i mean, look at you. even though you are in the USA, i bet that you are still urinating on the sidewalk, even though you have access to flush toilets.. |
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| #18 - Posted 16 November 2011, 9:11 PM | |
Location: United States, NYC Join date: October 2009 Member #: 3761 Posts: 16336 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Quote: dreadlocks previously said: Atabey continues to prove why improvements in education are necessary To people like Dready who believe that physical schools and materials and well trained staffs aren't necessary go suggested that to YOUR OWN HOMELANDS. See what people there think about spending 2% of GNP on education. nobody says that plant and equipment, and resources are not necessary. i am merely saying that all of that will not make a difference unless the CULTURE changes. education is something you have to want. have you ever heard about people who drop out of Harvard and Yale, because they do not see the point in higher education? well, it is the same thing when a population does not place a high value on education. i mean, look at you. even though you are in the USA, i bet that you are still urinating on the sidewalk, even though you have access to flush toilets.. I think you need to change your diaper again fool. Go tend to your use diapers-the ones you clean to reuse As for educational spending the fact that schools Haven't been available and well trained staff too might explain WHY educational deficits are high in DR. But those facts are too hard for a thick headed person like YOU to understand. Clean your hands before making those sandwiches at the corner Bodega or is that a Cab car I see you driving. "If you want to sleep well at night, it's best to avoid watching the making of sausages or politics." Otto Von Bismarck William Arthur Ward - "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails. |
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| #19 - Posted 16 November 2011, 9:12 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22472 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Harrison, who for twenty-six years directed USAID missions in Latin America, is not joyous about the results of the U.S. efforts to modernize Latin America. He concludes, that despite great strides in the recent past, Latin America's modernization remains a distant goal because of the legacy the IberoCatholic culture imposed by the Spanish that deprives the Latin Americans of the essential tools for progress: a future vision, a work ethic, the importance of education, a reward for merit, a sense of community, diffused authority, respect for law and a tolerance for secularism. Rather than come to grips with their own past the Latin Americans looked for scapegoats and found them in the theory of economic dependence and the United States. As explained by the Argentine economist Raul Prebisch and his disciples at the Economic Commission of Latin America (ECLA), since the time of colonization world powers exploited Latin America's raw materials and overcharged them for finished goods and services. go read, Atabey |
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| #20 - Posted 16 November 2011, 9:15 PM | |
Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 22472 | RE: Is DR's lack of Educational achievement due to lack of resources by the Government? Atabey says I think you need to change your diaper again fool. You failed in Jamaica, failed at marriage, and now find yourself in need of some low end job to make ends meet: what a summation of success at least, when women see me coming, they do not clutch their handbags tightly. you are so disreputable, so dishonest, so amoral, and have so little character, i am sure that people can see your dishonesty from a mile off. pond scum and lowlife. poor parenting. |
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