Will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? - Santo Domingo

#11 - Posted 6 November 2008, 8:36 PM
Lautaro Location: Dominican Republic, Santo Domingo Join date: December 2007 Member #: 38 Posts: 4956	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: anthonyC previously said: Quote: Manhattanite previously said: anthonyC the godless PhD is questioning my morality As pointed out in the thread we (the US) trade with other putative Communists. Different people will have different subjective ideas on the morality of this embargo but one thing is absolutely, objectively indisputable: the policy has failed to bring down Castro's regime. That is not a moral opinion, it is a historical fact. Well I guess I am just wrong to think that giving money to a murderous dictatorship is wrong. How silly of me. Then why don't you denounce your country's trade with the murderous regime of Beijing with the same fanaticism that you do against the cuban regime, eh Dr. Hypocrite? Edited on 11/6/2008 8:39 PM by Lautaro. "A man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Niccolo Macchiavelli - The Prince
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RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo?

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Lautaro previously said:

Then why don't you denounce your country's trade with the murderous regime of Beijing with the same fanaticism that you do against the cuban regime, eh Dr. Hypocrite?

That is just a drop in the bucket of the hypocrisies of the U.S. But these idiots are so plain stupid that they dont want to accept reality. They would gladly sell their souls in exchange for Cuban Statehood to the union. Not realizing that the U.S. interest in Cuba is for exploitation of it resources and people. All the while turning a blind eye to blatan U.S. hipocracy

*Trade with China
*Trade with Vietnam
Failing to indict Orlando Bosch for terrorism for the death of approx 73 passengers
Hijacking the "Freedom of Information act".

and others.

Edited on 11/6/2008 11:09 PM by ladronaso.

So, you don't like what's happening in DR....

#12 - Posted 6 November 2008, 8:47 PM
dreadlocks Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 9088	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? let us all see how he answers that one, Mr Lautaro. and Cibaeno, if Cuba does have 20 billion barrels of oil reserves, the embargo will end before christmas
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#13 - Posted 6 November 2008, 10:01 PM
anthonyC Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 3297	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: Lautaro previously said: Then why don't you denounce your country's trade with the murderous regime of Beijing with the same fanaticism that you do against the cuban regime, eh Dr. Hypocrite? Hasn't anyone ever told you not to assume? I have never aproved of relations with the PRC going back as far as the days of Ping Pong Diplomacy.
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#14 - Posted 6 November 2008, 10:24 PM
yumnuk3 Location: United States, ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ Join date: June 2008 Member #: 926 Posts: 2244	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: dreadlocks previously said: let us all see how he answers that one, Mr Lautaro. and Cibaeno, if Cuba does have 20 billion barrels of oil reserves, the embargo will end before christmas Dread. If it's true that Cuba has 20 billion barrels of oil. It will not be easy for the United States to get its hands on the oil. because Vladimir Putin has re-established strong relations with Cuba . Plus There is Cuba's debt to the ex-Soviet Union, inherited by Russia, has been previously estimated in Moscow at around $20 billion. Let's also not forget China's involvement. Obama has some very difficult challenges ahead. Edited on 1/6/2009 1:41 PM by yumnuk3. ø„¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º°¨ ¨°º¤ø„¸INFINITY„ø¤º°¨ „ø¤º°¨FOREVER`°º¤ø
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#15 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:03 PM
dreadlocks Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 9088	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? yumnuk, you are correct that the geopolitical dynamics will be tricky, but do not count out the USA in any game of skullduggery; they wrote the book. besides , 20 billion is small potatoes, in the grand scheme of things
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#16 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:07 PM
ladronaso Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1128	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: Lautaro previously said: Then why don't you denounce your country's trade with the murderous regime of Beijing with the same fanaticism that you do against the cuban regime, eh Dr. Hypocrite? That is just a drop in the bucket of the hypocrisies of the U.S. But these idiots are so plain stupid that they dont want to accept reality. They would gladly sell their souls in exchange for Cuban Statehood to the union. Not realizing that the U.S. interest in Cuba is for exploitation of it resources and people. All the while turning a blind eye to blatan U.S. hipocracy Trade with China Trade with Vietnam Failing to indict Orlando Bosch for terrorism for the death of approx 73 passengers Hijacking the "Freedom of Information act". and others. Edited on 11/6/2008 11:09 PM by ladronaso. So, you don't like what's happening in DR....
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#17 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:11 PM
abc200 Location: United Kingdom Join date: August 2008 Member #: 1307 Posts: 4458	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? At least the Cubans are not trashing the planet too much. The environmental footprint of their peopleis one of the lowest. People of the USA should go there and learn how to convert disused parking lots into gardens http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/planttherapy/planttherapy-vegetable-gardens-of-cuba--049054 'food miles kill - kill food miles' . They even have some queen conch left. They co-operate with FAO in management. See section on Cuba: http://www.cites.org/eng/com/AC/23/E23-05-03.pdf Hopefully the USA people have a balanced view of Cuba and its government. S.
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#18 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:14 PM
ladronaso Location: United States Join date: May 2008 Member #: 783 Posts: 1128	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: dreadlocks previously said: yumnuk, you are correct that the geopolitical dynamics will be tricky, but do not count out the USA in any game of skullduggery; they wrote the book. besides , 20 billion is small potatoes, in the grand scheme of things But i also do think that Obama has studied and learned many lessons from the Clinton Admin of what to and not to do. So I really think he will hit the ground running. If you just look at his campaign strategy. He studied the past, learned from the mistakes and employed all the available resources and tools to his advantage. Edited on 11/6/2008 11:15 PM by ladronaso. So, you don't like what's happening in DR....
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#19 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:35 PM
anthonyC Location: United States Join date: June 2008 Member #: 933 Posts: 3297	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? Quote: abc200 previously said: At least the Cubans are not trashing the planet too much. The environmental footprint of their peopleis one of the lowest. People of the USA should go there and learn how to convert disused parking lots into gardens http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/planttherapy/planttherapy-vegetable-gardens-of-cuba--049054 'food miles kill - kill food miles' . They even have some queen conch left. They co-operate with FAO in management. See section on Cuba: http://www.cites.org/eng/com/AC/23/E23-05-03.pdf Hopefully the USA people have a balanced view of Cuba and its government. S. abc, You will be glad to know I am increasing my CARBON FOOTPRINT as much as possible to offset the economic harm you are causing.
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#20 - Posted 6 November 2008, 11:49 PM
dreadlocks Location: United States Join date: December 2007 Member #: 4 Posts: 9088	RE: will Obama lift the Cuban embargo? yet another dosage of sagacious insights from the mouse that roared. ladronaso, the USA has never opposed tyranny and injustice, nor dictators. they only opposed these conditions when they could not control the dictators. it is well documented in millions of books and essays, and needs no further examination. and the miami cubans have no beef with dictatorship; their beef is with castro. they had no problems with Batista. Gloria Estefan probably lived large when daddy was a bodyguard to Batista. now she is in miami, extolling the virtues of "democracy". give me a break!
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