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#101 - Posted 15 November 2008, 8:31 PM
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Do you write professionally, en serio. The way you described that characterization was amazing. Reminds me of myself sometimes. That was pretty good.


Talia, no I don't write professionally. En serio, it's just that I try to express myself clearly and intelligibly to the entire audience. I know for some, expressing themselves like an idiot and conveying a idiot status or persona comes natural. Unfortunately for me, that would take too much work.




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#102 - Posted 15 November 2008, 9:00 PM
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hey, Carlos, you claim that we 'lost", because we tried to elevate the level of the discourse. au contraire, Carlos. you are the guy who refused to try and learn something worthwhile, wasting your life insulting Haitians. so, at the end of the day, you remain an ignorant know-nothing, and we do not. so, who lost? as to being a moralist; hmmm.. lets see. because i try to elicit a semblance of civility from a poster makes me a moralist? do you understand the meaning of the word? then again, there is no discredit to being a moralist. it is surely more acceptable in a modern , urbane society, than acting like some ill bred, pre-agricultural antecedent of the human race. this proclivity to swearwords might be some misguided attempt at machismo; if it is, you should seek therapy. nobody , at least no worthwhile person, is impressed by verbal thuggery; actually, we pity your deficiency of vocabulary.
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#103 - Posted 15 November 2008, 9:49 PM
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hey, Carlos, you claim that we 'lost", because we tried to elevate the level of the discourse. au contraire, Carlos. you are the guy who refused to try and learn something worthwhile, wasting your life insulting Haitians. so, at the end of the day, you remain an ignorant know-nothing, and we do not. so, who lost? as to being a moralist; hmmm.. lets see. because i try to elicit a semblance of civility from a poster makes me a moralist? do you understand the meaning of the word? then again, there is no discredit to being a moralist. it is surely more acceptable in a modern , urbane society, than acting like some ill bred, pre-agricultural antecedent of the human race. this proclivity to swearwords might be some misguided attempt at machismo; if it is, you should seek therapy. nobody , at least no worthwhile person, is impressed by verbal thuggery; actually, we pity your deficiency of vocabulary.


LOL ... These “intellectuals” diatribe get worse regardless of your level of intelligence, even if you are from another world. For too many of these imbeciles ignorance bliss, only to underline their astounding arrogance. Here's are 's a link that I can assist them http://translate.google.com/translate_t# in their conquest.

Although, I do not agree with Dominicanation, however he seemed be able to take on, all these human cells with ease.
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#104 - Posted 16 November 2008, 9:28 AM
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actually, Antonioj, i find the entire exercise to be rather unproductive. both sides of the divide are equally culpable. it is one of the great mysteries of the universe that grown men can start inflammatory threads, with the sole purpose of trading insults. then again, i do not implore them to stop. if they want to waste their time in meaningless ventures, while at the same time giving the world outside a legitimate reason to question the mentality of Dominicans and Haitians, then , forge on ahead. the gravamen of my argument is that the internet is public domain. not because the site is called Dominican Today means that dominicans get to configure the ethos, with each man functioning as his own arbiter. there are people in the world with delicate sensibilities. just as they are offended by the spoken expletive, they are equally offended by the written one. for some rough hewn types to assert that people who do not like what they write can simply bugger off, or that they have the right to do whatever they want, speaks to a lack of insight, civilisation , and upbringing. the failure to realise this , on the part of some people here, is the mystery for the ages.
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#105 - Posted 16 November 2008, 9:53 AM
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Well the humoring thing about it is that they really believe their behavior is appropriate and should be condoned by everyone. And I second your statement about continuing with the idiotic comments and feuding. Let them continue, hopefully they will reap what they sow.
and did someone say DUCK

Straight from the horses mouth..
If it walks like a DUCK, Talks like a Duck and looks like a DUCK.

Well, IT must be a DUCK.


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#106 - Posted 16 November 2008, 10:04 AM
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ladronaso, you are ever the sage with your assessments. you are right! they really fail to believe that there are actually people who function in a more polite ecosystem, who are offended by their conduct. they think that they are the societal norms ! heck, Tupapaupa actually informed me that everybody has heard his expletives before. you cannot win in the face of that kind of thinking. better to leave things alone. one day, it might dawn on them, the importance of civility
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ladronaso, you are ever the sage with your assessments. you are right! they really fail to believe that there are actually people who function in a more polite ecosystem, who are offended by their conduct. they think that they are the societal norms ! heck, Tupapaupa actually informed me that everybody has heard his expletives before. you cannot win in the face of that kind of thinking. better to leave things alone. one day, it might dawn on them, the importance of civility

I am interested to know from you guys, what is your opinion with respect to the auto industry bail out !! would there be a GM 20 years form now ? 20 billions seem to be very little, and would only extend life for another year, This rescue package came too late.
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#108 - Posted 16 November 2008, 10:34 AM
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I seriously don't know if there will be a bailout as though there are some in congress who are pushing for it. Think the Govt is playing by ear first. Waiting out to see how the chips fall or buying time with the Financial Bailout and the new Admin.

However considering The Govt. did make money on the last Bailout of Chrysler it could provide (along with the financial bailout) massive returns for the govt if managed properly. . in several years. But the U.S. auto Industry has been neglecting consumers for too long and now they want consumers to bail them out. Had they been producing efficient reliable vehicles they would have perhaps garnered more sympathy from congress and citizens.
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#109 - Posted 16 November 2008, 10:51 AM
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the problem with the proposed GM bailout is that the 20 billion might help in addressing the legacy costs, like health care and pensions, which drive up the costs of manufacture. but the structural problems remain, because contracts will have to be renegotiated, or we will just rebuild the legacy costs all over again. GM has always had the business model to make maximum profit per unit. that is why they built huge SUVs and trucks, because the bigger they are, the more profit per unit. that is why they never bothered to build little things like a Honda Fit. now, they are way behind the curve. do you know that on Friday last, Ford and GM, jointly, had less than 4 billion dollars in cash? 2 billion will take GM to the end of this month, maybe. without a capital injection of around 20 billion, it is bankrupt!! Obama and the dems do not want it to go under, because their political platform was built on a covenant with workers and the middle class, which would be decimated; 3 million indirect jobs lost. the question is whether or not the treasury has the money. with all these bailout dollars, the US dollar has been sliding further and further down; the Chinese sovereign wealth funds are going to ask for something like an increase in the interest payment to offset the losses in the dollar. it is very convoluted. i cannot wait to see how it pans out!!
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#110 - Posted 16 November 2008, 11:13 AM
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Yes your are correct about the Union Contracts but I also think that the Unions are in no position to be inflexible. Foreign auto Mfgs in the U.S. have modified their health insurance benefit plans and they are not unionized (to my knowledge). So any bailout may include some concessions from the union and they may have to play nice. The Dems (Obama) will also have to re-tailor the platform as their are many independents who feel that the market should be allowed to take its course. In addition I believe that both Bialouts will constitute approx 5-6 % of GDP. I think it still leaves the U.S some wiggle room. Considering China's continual growth remains as a finance source.



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