Antonioj, Said
another pee brain, let just ignore that bull kaka

Arkatype, Said What bull you derelict, get off the booze and realize that haitian history is filled with lies, you people are brainwashed and in denial. How do you think your country reached such lows in developement and poverty. Your country has been ruled by tyrannical leaders since day one

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Dreadlocks, Said
here we go again with the horse crap!!! what did i tell you, cibaeno?

Arkatype, Said Haitian undercover!!!!! Need i say more?????

CarlosFranco, Said
For Haitians such as Dominicanation and AfroLatino... Here's a list of atrocities committed by the Haitians agaisnt the Dominican people and shoud offer a clue as to why the two nations will never unite as per the wishes of the haitians in the forum. It should also offer a view of the conditions of the spanish side which permitted the invasion to take place


Haitian Invasion of the Dominican Republic





The Haiti Invasion of Dominican Republic was the military invasion and ensuing 22 years occupation of the newly founded Dominican Republic on the eastern side of Hispaniola by Haiti, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844.

Former European colonies

By the late 18th century, the Island of Hispaniola was divided in two European colonies: Saint-Domingue, governed by France; and Santo Domingo governed by Spain.

In the year 1804, following black slave uprisings since 1791, the French colony declared its independence and named their new country Haiti (which was how, in some early texts, the island was named by the native Indians before the arrival of Christopher Columbus to the New World). Their independence was not an easy task, considering that before the uprisings, Haiti was France's most profitable colony, mainly because of the massive exploitation of slaves and the land for sugar cane which was an expensive commodity back in Europe.

Meanwhile, on the east side, composed mainly of Spanish descendants, mulattos and some black slaves, the economy was stagnant, the land (nearly 2/3rds of the island) mainly unexploited and the population count much smaller than from the Haiti side (some accounts by then essayist and politician José Núñez de Cáceres cite the late colony with roughly 80,000 souls; as opposed to Haiti, which was nearing a million former slaves).[1]. The Dominican republic was declared free and independent of Spain in December 9, 1821 so it could join the Gran Colombia nation that was being formed by Simon Bolivar.


Justification of the invasion

General Boyer, commander-in-chief of Haiti, wouldn't allow a separate nation on Hispaniola, alleging that the land is "one and indivisible".

He was already into negotiations to prevent the attack by fourteen French warships, posted in front of Port-au-Prince; in exchange, France and Haiti settled on that the former would sell the land in exchange of a sum of originally 150 Million Francs (more than twice what France just charged United States for the Louisiana Purchase.)


Invasion

The just newly formed Dominican Republic was at serious disadvantage if it were to prevent the Haitian invasion. Mainly, it currently had no local military forces whatsoever, its population count was 8-10 times less than Haiti, and the economy was stalled.

Haiti, on the other hand, had formidable armed forces, both in skill and sheer size (for such a small land), that had been hardened for nearly 10 years of repelling French soldiers, local colonialists and military insurgents (lesser armed factions). The racial massacres perpetrated in the later days of the French-Haitian conflict only added to the determination of Haitians to never lose a battle.

By February 9, 1822, Boyer and his troops had entered Santo Domingo and received the keys to the city by now destituted president, José Núñez de Cáceres.


Curtailed liberties in Santo Domingo

Although the invasion effectively eliminated colonial slavery and instated a Constitution modeled after the United States constitution through the island; in practice, several resolutions and written dispositions where expressly aimed at converting Dominicans into second-rate citizens: Restrictions of movement, prohibition to run public office, night curfews, inability to travel in groups, banning of civilian organizations, and, lastly, the indefinite closure of the state university (on the alleged grounds of it being a subversive organization) all led to the creation of independentist secret organization called “La Trinitaria” (The Trinity).


War of Independence

It would take 22 years for the War of Independence (La Guerra de Independencia) to start, on February 27, 1844, led by Juan Pablo Duarte and the Trinitarios, who was conformed not only by the cultural and monetary elite of the time, but by almost all Dominicans who were fed up by Haitians on their soil.

CarlosFranco, Said
For Haitians such as Dominicanation and AfroLatino... Here's a list of atrocities committed by the Haitians agaisnt the Dominican people and shoud offer a clue as to why the two nations will never unite as per the wishes of the haitians in the forum. It should also offer a view of the conditions of the spanish side which permitted the invasion to take place


Haitian Invasion of the Dominican Republic





The Haiti Invasion of Dominican Republic was the military invasion and ensuing 22 years occupation of the newly founded Dominican Republic on the eastern side of Hispaniola by Haiti, from February 9, 1822 until February 27, 1844.

Former European colonies

By the late 18th century, the Island of Hispaniola was divided in two European colonies: Saint-Domingue, governed by France; and Santo Domingo governed by Spain.

In the year 1804, following black slave uprisings since 1791, the French colony declared its independence and named their new country Haiti (which was how, in some early texts, the island was named by the native Indians before the arrival of Christopher Columbus to the New World). Their independence was not an easy task, considering that before the uprisings, Haiti was France's most profitable colony, mainly because of the massive exploitation of slaves and the land for sugar cane which was an expensive commodity back in Europe.

Meanwhile, on the east side, composed mainly of Spanish descendants, mulattos and some black slaves, the economy was stagnant, the land (nearly 2/3rds of the island) mainly unexploited and the population count much smaller than from the Haiti side (some accounts by then essayist and politician José Núñez de Cáceres cite the late colony with roughly 80,000 souls; as opposed to Haiti, which was nearing a million former slaves).[1]. The Dominican republic was declared free and independent of Spain in December 9, 1821 so it could join the Gran Colombia nation that was being formed by Simon Bolivar.


Justification of the invasion

General Boyer, commander-in-chief of Haiti, wouldn't allow a separate nation on Hispaniola, alleging that the land is "one and indivisible".

He was already into negotiations to prevent the attack by fourteen French warships, posted in front of Port-au-Prince; in exchange, France and Haiti settled on that the former would sell the land in exchange of a sum of originally 150 Million Francs (more than twice what France just charged United States for the Louisiana Purchase.)


Invasion

The just newly formed Dominican Republic was at serious disadvantage if it were to prevent the Haitian invasion. Mainly, it currently had no local military forces whatsoever, its population count was 8-10 times less than Haiti, and the economy was stalled.

Haiti, on the other hand, had formidable armed forces, both in skill and sheer size (for such a small land), that had been hardened for nearly 10 years of repelling French soldiers, local colonialists and military insurgents (lesser armed factions). The racial massacres perpetrated in the later days of the French-Haitian conflict only added to the determination of Haitians to never lose a battle.

By February 9, 1822, Boyer and his troops had entered Santo Domingo and received the keys to the city by now destituted president, José Núñez de Cáceres.


Curtailed liberties in Santo Domingo

Although the invasion effectively eliminated colonial slavery and instated a Constitution modeled after the United States constitution through the island; in practice, several resolutions and written dispositions where expressly aimed at converting Dominicans into second-rate citizens: Restrictions of movement, prohibition to run public office, night curfews, inability to travel in groups, banning of civilian organizations, and, lastly, the indefinite closure of the state university (on the alleged grounds of it being a subversive organization) all led to the creation of independentist secret organization called “La Trinitaria” (The Trinity).


War of Independence

It would take 22 years for the War of Independence (La Guerra de Independencia) to start, on February 27, 1844, led by Juan Pablo Duarte and the Trinitarios, who was conformed not only by the cultural and monetary elite of the time, but by almost all Dominicans who were fed up by Haitians on their soil.


Arkatype, Said Good brief summary of historical facts pertaining to Dominican Republic history. It's always amazing how some people try to misinterpret certain chapters of our history. For example they will deny the restriction section in our history where you posted and i quote "Restrictions of movement, prohibition to run for public office, night curfews, inability to travel in groups, banning of civilian organizations, and lastly the indefinite closure of the university." In fact some people believe that Jean Pierre Boyer was a savior to the inhabitants on the eastern side or spanish side of the island which is a crock of lies, lets go back before we were invaded by the haitians when the criollo inhabitants decided to become an indpendent republic from Spain and renamed the country Haiti Español. At that point the governor was a spaniard that was deported back to Spain, Jose Nuñez De Caceres through popular votes from the criollo majority decided to annex the country to Simon Bolivar's Gran Colombia. An emissary was sent to what is today Venezuela, with the request in hand. At the same time Jean Pierre Boyer had sent spies to see what was going on in the weaker eastern portion of the island. Before that request arrived in South America, Jean Pierre Boyer had already invaded the country with a numerous force one column arrived in Santiago the other in Santo Domingo, because of the natural proximity with Haiti, the request sent to Bolivar did not have any effect. Jean Pierre Boyer was met with no resistance because the population was not prepared to do battle against the haitians and people feared a repitition of the 1805 massacres led by Henri Christophe and Dessalines with an army of more then 25,000 men. The colombian flag was raised in the capital and in other towns in the country, although the haitian flag was raised in the border regions of the country where many haitians encroached on Haiti Español territory. Some people believe that the haitian insignia was being raised all over the place that's a big crock. As Boyer's troop's mobilized into the country many spanish and criollo landholders started packing up there belongings to exit the island. CONTINUATION.....

Arkatype, Said The land was the most important commodity in that period of time. Not all the landholders left the country at that point but the most prominent citizens left immediately in the advent of the invasion and occupation. Also some of the the church officials decided also to leave the island. The church held plenty of power over huge tracts of land, that was mostly unused and even forested. Boyer announced a ceremony and requested the governor to hand over the keys to the city of Santo Domingo, Jose Nuñez De Caceres was forced in the act and the keys were handed to Boyer. Briefly after that Boyer antagonized his troops to destroy all emblems related to the spanish/criollo culture, he closed the university, and requested that the catholic church hand over all there properties to his administration. Boyer began to unmask himself for who he was a despotic-dictator. At that point he expelled most of the wealthy spanish church officials that disagreed with his disposition, although others remained. The church held most of the lands and had in their service most of the slaves. He emancipated all the remaining slaves and abolished slavery. He forced the youth to join the military, as he began to see the fruits of his alleged success. He started distributing land to those of high rank in his army. He implemented his code rural inspired from the napoleonic era in Haiti, which forced yeonman to cultivate the land, these small plots of land began as a way for the people to produce food for personal consumption but at the same time everyone had to contribute to him and the haitian mulatto elites coffers. The land reforms went against the ways that the remaining criollo families traditionally cultivated there lands, this soon created frictions between the dominicans and the haitian army. Due to the forced labor imposed by the haitian military, in the production of crops. In 1824 a priest began to organize a rebellion against the haitians but falied as spies of Boyer betrayed them in the act of insurrection. Most were executed and a few escaped and left the island. At that point Boyer filled with anger decreed the constitution of 1805 as a way to confiscate lands that remained still in the hands of criollo's, he also put other laws, that will later strain even more the relations between dominicans and haitians. He encouraged whites to leave the country, obviously Boyer and his administration were not too bright as many whites decided to leave the regions where the haitians had immediate control over there lands. They moved mostly to the mountain regions in the north far from the said area's. Most if not all the remaining people were mostly ex-slaves that remained in Boyer's circle. In the same year 1824 Boyer planned to repopulate the eastern portion of the island by bringing haitians from there traditional stronghold in the west to come to the east, his plan was not successful as a limited amount did come. Seeking to blacken and africanize the eastern portion of the island and trying to create a more amicable and close relationship with the U.S. through trade. Boyer planned and brought to the eastern portion of the island about 8,000 african-american former slaves through a church organization which dually wanted to humanely treat but also expel former slaves from the U.S. Despite his plan being implemented to discourage an uprising from the dominican populace, it failed miserably for he wished that 100,000 former slaves be introduced to the island, but only about 10,000 did come and many went back to the United States, because of the utter poverty and cultural and linguistic differences with haitians. This and many other reasons made us naturally want to separate from Haiti, in 1838 Juan Pablo Duarte creates and heads Los Trinitarios an underground organization which promoted and seeked freedom from the haitian occupation.

"those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right – the right of the superior to rule over the inferior."

I think that this should be the motto emblazoned on anthonyC's family coat of arms, dread, because it sums up neatly his twisted and sinister ideas. At least Rubi's hatred is only limited to the haitians, mr. C, on the other hand, apparently hates the entire Universe.

interestingly, Mr Lautaro, the line you quoted is the exact one which put me in mind of him, and caused me to ask the question of cibaeno!!!

Ladronaso, Said
Dreads, if in the end it accomplished something I could understand the persistence. But in the end when you look at the time and energy spent, you have to really think what a waste of time.

Arkatype, Said The socialist freak has spoken, who's your daddy Fidelito Castro.

Maybe we should ask him the question directly next time we catch him on another of his "superior being" discourses.