Stop spreading propaganda. I made a request before on this forum for someone to show me articles written by Haitians(anywhere) accusing DR of all the above things. TV interviews, street protests,

Not the small groups in DR presuring the gov't, WIDESCALE. Let's see them! and not that regurgitated sh*t.

My two cents...

He's talking about the NGO's pressuring the dominican state about the issue, kmnupe. NGO's like Mujeres Dominico Haitianas (MUDHA), the Centro Puente, the Grupo de Ayuda para los Refugiados y Repatriados (GARR), Comité de Niñez Dominico-Haitiana de Puerto Rico and the Red Jeannot Succes are among the most famous for their viciousness in the international campaign against the DR, although the majority of them are based on the DR, they're financed by USAID and other international groups in Canada, France and the UK (on this the most vocal has been the Wilberforce Antislavery Society or something like that), which would be inmensely glad to see the burden represented by haitian issues taken off their countries' backs and placed squarely on the DR's shoulders, with no kind of help from their part whatsoever. Another group that has been very vocal in the campaign against the DR is the US Congressional Black Caucus, which can't seem to stop from accusing us of every single tragedy that has ever befallen on Haiti, and which might steer emperor Obama's point of view against us. A fact that you have to consider is that, although many of the people on these groups are dominicans of haitian descent or disgruntled dominican leftists, the majority of the population sees them as nothing more than haitians hell bent into taking political power on the country to carry out their agenda.

Kmnupe, what planet are you living in? That is not just propaganda.

I did not know anything about your request but I am going to answer you (of course I am going to answer you).

Solain Pie (or Sonia Pierre, because she prefers her Dominican name) is accusing us everywhere of the most horrible things as frequently as she can.

Steven Gehy is a Haitian writer (and intellectual, he says) who used to write in a Dominican column with this title:" From Petion Ville". It was necessary to get him out of our media. (He never said just one world about his neighbors in Haiti but he really enjoyed to destroy our reputation).

It was necessary to get out of our country two persons for all their abuses: Father Pierre Ruquoy and Father Christopher Hartley. From this last character came later a documentary full of lies made with Haitian money: “The Price of Sugar”, narrated by Paul Newman (www.thepriceofsugar.com).

You can see these Haitian works too (they are really bad but everything is on the way if it can hurt us):
Dominicans are racist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oca5oX6LBMc&feature=related
Dominicans are racist II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2dRvwB3auI&feature=related
Dominicans are racist III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zF2kbn8Sk&feature=related
Dominicans are racist IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcqzW4uWCss&feature=related

And last but not least, they are a lot of Haitians in our streets everyday using the worst statements for us but you can not find just one with enough courage to fight against the people responsible for Haiti’s misery.

There you are, Monsieur.

Funny thing you can look all over the Congressional Black Caucus site and find nary a mention of DR or Haiti. Check the news archives and you'll not find a single press release on the topic. There is no section for foreign policy. Type CBC + DR into Google and there is nothing in the first 10 results that even dates to the last few years (except for Rangel's infamous properties). Type CBC + haiti and you get some articles urging Bush to send aid, but DR appears nowhere in these articles.

Lautaro this is what you call a vocal campaign against DR by the CBC? In that case I hope you're right and they influence 'emperor Obama' to similarly be silent

Maxine Waters passes through here with a fact finding mission Manny so you should smell a rat this is a woman who enjoys celebrating birthdays with Fidel {they fall on consecutive days } her husband was the former ambassador to the Bahamas so they are deep in Caribbean politics...her sister practices dentistry in the USVI.....you will be hearing plenty from her ...She is a huge supporter of Sonia Pierre

Thanks for the response.

I know about those groups and a lot of people seem to believe that their total views are that of the general Haitian populace.

The strong sentiments of slavery, widespread abuse and xenophobia are not shared by a large majority even in Haiti where news reaches first.

I can understand people's frustration when a country's image is blemished and it's the same way I feel when a minority is proposed to speak for all of us.

Most Haitians that I know don't or wouldn't have any contempt left for the DR when we're surrounded by our own local abusers. (Obviously I speak for those who live a life a misery there).

A REPORT FROM THE BBC ON THE BLACK CONGRESSIONAL CAUCUS OF THE U.S. ON HAITI. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spanish/latin_america/newsid_3348000/3348425.stm

jew guys ken gib this a brake men? Who revived this topic should be shot.

Since Jefferson’s times, for the American government the solutions for Haiti’s problems are in our side (and in those days Haiti was not as bad as it is nowadays).

They are cooking something, that for sure, but I hope they had read history. Never is a good idea to challenge our brave people. Only one Latin American regular army had fought with the US regular army: the 1965 constitutionalist part of our army and we can do it again if we do not have another option.

It is important to remember this: Americans really do not like to get their men back in plastic bags. Are they going to fight for a bottomless country, with a mess of biblical proportions? No, I do not think so.

22 years are more than enough. In this island there will be two countries with a perfectly defined border forever. Haitians in the Western part and Dominicans in the Eastern part, each one working for a brighter future. We can help them as part of an international community effort (if they want our help) but that is as far as we can go. With Obama and CBC or without Obama and CBC, that is as far as we can go.

PeRod, Said
Since Jefferson’s times, for the American government the solutions for Haiti’s problems are in our side (and in those days Haiti was not as bad as it is nowadays).

They are cooking something, that for sure, but I hope they had read history. Never is a good idea to challenge our brave people. Only one Latin American regular army had fought with the US regular army: the 1965 constitutionalist part of our army and we can do it again if we do not have another option.

It is important to remember this: Americans really do not like to get their men back in plastic bags. Are they going to fight for a bottomless country, with a mess of biblical proportions? No, I do not think so.

22 years are more than enough. In this island there will be two countries with a perfectly defined border forever. Haitians in the Western part and Dominicans in the Eastern part, each one working for a brighter future. We can help them as part of an international community effort (if they want our help) but that is as far as we can go. With Obama and CBC or without Obama and CBC, that is as far as we can go.


Arkatype, Said You have a great conscious PeRod.