The thing, imbecile, is that this man (Jorge Estevez) has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that we dominican people still have Taino blood within us, so you and your stupid afrocentric rabble would do well to shut your big mouths up. He and some US geneticists have enough material proof to send your stupid "extinction" myths and fables into the oblivion from which they shouldn't have come out in the first place.

http://www.centrelink.org/JorgeEstevez.pdf

Only a moron like you would try to make dominicans pass as offshoots of haitians, since last I saw, dominicans have more time on the island than the haitians would ever have. And before you come with your usual stupidity of saying "Those were spaniards that were before us", let me tell you one little tidbit: Spaniards were never the majority on the Santo Domingo colony, since this last one was conformed by mixed people and the few slaves that were left after the spanish sugar industry collapsed. You can yell all that you want, but you'll never be able to change those facts. Sayonara, moron, I'm done with your idiocies.

Hey Lat, no doubt DR have a great percentage of Mulattoes, I doubt they want to be pass for white, however, I think Haiti play a great role in their insecurity about their identity in a sense of un-defining or defining it.

Look at several past bloody invasion, then policy on each side noiriste versus blanquismo, the most interesting one is probably the present mess that Haiti is in, I am not sure that anyone would liked to be associated with.

In a positive note, I can see some rapprochement, and better understanding, since there are good people on both sides.

That rapproachment would have come even sooner, antonio, had it not been for the stupid idiots and rabble rousers like dominicanation, which are making things more difficult on both sides of the spectrum.

Lautaro, I somehow dont believe that the sentiments are necessarily anti Dominican as I too have worked cohabitated with many AA in the past and yes they are very quick to arbitrarily label anyone with the slightest bit of color as Black. Their belief that Hispanics in general are Black, I believe stems from their own inferiority, identity complexes and sentiment that the system has not worked for them but does work for Black or mixed SA/Caribbean immigrants. Many apparently have much resentment towards black/mixed/ immigrants who have benefited or progressed in their same communities and hold a firm belief that these immigrants were given preferential treatment. And I have to agree that many times this is the case. Many are given preferential treatment. I have worked in companies where management will make every attempt not to hire a AA but would hire foreign blacks. Is it "just" no. Can I blame them? To a degree yes and no.

But times are changing, and they too are a dying breed as many mixed children are beginning to identify themselves as not black or white but what they are. Mixed, biracial, leaving some entities/states to begin to add biracial as a race/ethnic identifier.

After the fight let take care of this together, here's one example where cooperation is key

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/health/16glob.html?_r=1

Haitianation, Said

Taino my a$$. Sad to say but the Taino race has been extinct for quite some time now "GET OVER IT"
The so called 73% Mulattoes population of DR are nothing more than Haitians mixed with whatever the hell else. And I do agree with the one drop rule one drop of black blood should label you as a blacky and you Domincans are in FACT in denial.... Last time I checked Laut was trying to pass himself as a white. LOL. One could only imagine the look on Laut's face when he found out that he wasn't WHITE. Oh my. Funny thing is every time Lau goes back to DR he still pretends that he is white matter of fact he seldom encourage others to call him BLANCO. Ahh! stupid confused negro.

Arkatype, Said Typical haitian responses from a haitian self hater.

Moreno. Morena, Taino, Taina, WHATEVER LAUT there's a 93% chance that you may have some Haitian blood in you. Remember that your country was ruled for 22 years by the Haitians and that our gov. was trying to pump as much Haitian blood into your country as possible. They even said that 1 Haitian soldier during those times were allowed to have 5 Dominican wives. And since Dominican women have a profound love for the Mandingo like Haitian soldiers and they still do to this day. I bet you they were doing it like rabbits back then day and night, like I said LAU there's a very high chance that you might have some 100% pure grade A (The A stands for AYISYEN by the way) As I was saying you might be Haitian after all LAU. IT's okay to be Haitian LAU I'm one and I turn out to be NORMAL <--Whatever that means). By the way did you hear the news that C Kennedy wants to be Senator and she most likely will be one and then of course once she takes office I will be one of the first to send her a letter reminding her about the injustice that the poor Haitians are facing in DR. Yes I will. matter of fact I've started the draft letter already I'm going to make this letter sounds so heartwarming that even Ghenkis Khan would shed a tear if he were to read it. Anyway you do the math if you think I'm lying about the 73% of DR mulattoe population are in fact Haitian descendants you said it yourself that we outnumbered your country greatly in the 1800's and of course most of the Dominican men were forced to enlist in the Haitian Army to replace the older Haitian soldiers while the Haitian soldiers were given a cushy job in St. Domingue looking after the butter pecan mamis. Am I mistaken? Isn't that what happened?

A New Collection of Taíno Artifacts from the Dominican Republic



The Taíno were part of a complex mosaic of native cultures inhabiting the islands of the Caribbean. The Taíno were the first indigenous people of the western hemisphere to meet Spanish explorers. When Christopher Columbus landed on Hispaniola in 1492, the native inhabitants of the island identified themselves as Taínos – a term that meant “good,” “prudent,” or “noble.” Collected in the Dominican Republic, the artifacts in the newly-accessioned M.H. Sanborn and Keriakou Family Collection provide information about the same cultural group that first encountered Columbus--the Taíno.

The Taínos were bordered by other groups in the Lesser Antilles, sometimes called the Island-Caribs, although they probably did not constitute a unified ethnic group. More recent studies of the indigenous people encountered by Columbus have revealed a complex cultural mosaic (Wilson 1993). The Taíno, however, did have substantial contact with the people of the Lesser Antilles. These people were in contact with both the Greater Antilles and South American Mainland, and were heavily involved in trade and raiding both to the North and South.

The Taíno organized themselves socially and politically into regional, district, and village chiefdoms (Rouse 1992). The Taíno believed that a chief, or “cacique,” the highest ranking member of the society, provided a conduit for communication between the physical and spiritual world (Wilson 1990). Like the societies of many mainland Mesoamerican groups (Rouse 1992), Taíno society consisted of two fundamental social classes – the nobility and the common people. Commoners, also called “naborias,” hunted, fished, and grew crops, and they frequently used stone mortars to pound manioc, the staple food, into cakes. The Sanborn and Keriakou Collection includes many of these stone mortars. The nobles, or “nitaínos,” worked as craftsmen, creating both ceremonial art and everyday utilitarian objects (Alegría 1998). The Taíno played a ballgame similar to those played by groups in mainland Mesoamerica. Ballcourts have been found in Puerto Rico and on the island of Hispaniola (Wilson 1990).

The M. H. Sanborn and Keriakou Family Collection, recently donated and accessioned into the Department of Anthropology collections, is comprised primarily of stone and ceramic objects, but also of objects made from shell and bone, such as beads and chopping and digging tools. The stone artifacts include drilled beads, adzes, mortars, pestles, and zemi figurines. The ceramic objects include both complete vessels and broken adornos and other decorative elements.

M.H. Sanborn

Beginning around 1925, MacCleary Hobbes Sanborn Sr. worked as the assistant chemist of the Central La Romana Sugar Factory in the Dominican Republic. During the 1920’s, he developed an interest in archaeology and began scouring the country for native artifacts. Sanborn collected and documented objects from a wide range of sites, predominantly along the coastal areas in the northern and eastern regions of the Dominican Republic. He also carefully documented the locations of burial caves and pictographs that he discovered during his travels. Mr. Sanborn personally donated artifacts in 1911 and expressed his wishes to donate a large part of his collections to the Smithsonian Institution before his death. His wife, Rosa Pabón Sanborn, began donating these artifacts to the Smithsonian in 1963, and Sanborn’s granddaughter, Mrs. Linda Keriakou, donated the main collection of 263 objects in 2003. Mr. Sanborn also donated a collection of native artifacts from Puerto Rico, including a substantial assortment of native pottery vessels.

Other Taino Collections

Acquisition of the Sanborn collection continues an interest in Taino archaeology at the Smithsonian Institution that dates back to the last quarter of the nineteenth century. Other Taino holdings in the Department of Anthropology include artifacts collected in Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) by George Latimer prior to the 1870s and in Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic by Jesse Walter Fewkes (1903-4) and by Herbert W. Kreiger (late 1920s).

anthropology.si.edu/cm/taino.htm

Until you come with conclusive genetic proofs about your points (something that I highly doubt you can produce, unless they are forgeries, as with everything produced by noirists like you), your rants are and will only be assumptions, BS and wishful thinking. And you know what they say of people that ASSume. As much as you hate the french, it doesn't change the fact that your genesis lies with Bertrand D'Ogeron at Port-de-Paix, circa 1661.

Lautaro, please do not waste your intellect on this man.... you'll be better off ignoring Him.




Marking Taíno Heritage




A group of young men and women in Azua