After having dispatched a meal, I went ashore, and found no habitation save a single house, and that without an occupant; we had no doubt that the people had fled in terror at our approach, as the house was completely furnished.

Christopher Columbus

Yumnuk that’s a great post, but you know the part that says

“One interesting aspect of the study is that individuals tested in the Cibao region seem to have a different DNA sequence than those tested in the southern part of the island. While both sequences are indigenous the variants could shed some light on ancient migrations. The study also reveals that the Taino descendants from the Cibao area could have been relatively “un-mixed racially” until more recent times.”


Could it be that the Dominican examined by the shore are decedents of people outside of DR. like the other islands. I have read that Puerto Ricans are about 60% have Taino blood.


I doubt I have any in me, maybe through my grandfather “father’s father” in Barahoena. My father’s mother was a Spaniard.

yumnuk, as time passes, you will come to realise that anthonyc is a pernicious know -nothing, who has a standard modus operandi. if you quote a reference, he will indubitably tell you that they have been CONSENSUALLY discredited. then he will trot out some guy, whom he has not read, as the "consensus". remember, this is the same guy who says that it is consensually agreed that FDR caused the Great Depression!

Dread I am pounding him , and I Am only getting started.




chillaxin, thank you for your support .




It’s time to bury the mistaken belief that all the Taínos died.
Photo of cemetery at La Isabela by Jeanny Wang.

HA!

So far I have PROVEN that the story that Columbus gave Small Pox infected blankets to the Indians was a myth.

I have also pointed out that the Indians of the New World were just as Evil as their European counterparts if not more.

The Only think getting pounded is your pud on your many dateless nights.

anthonyc, you lost me somewhere in the thread. where, might i ask, did you PROVE that the smallpox blanket assertion was fallacious? and, how did you PROVE it?

Columbus was no Jesus Christ, but it is a stretch to make him a Hitler or a Genghis. He was an ambitious sailor and a Christian zealot. He committed sins in the name of both those qualities, but it is difficult to swallow that he single-handedly engineered the demographic collapse of the natives.

There was definitely a strange mix of envy, hate from the Anglo world towards the decaying Spanish empire. This was only natural as they competed for empire. Columbus legends play into this. Columbus was made to seem like a saintly Christian pioneer in sharp contrast to his swarthy, backwards (Catholic), violent crewmen...and by extension the swarthy, backwards, violent Spaniards that followed. This was consciously done by writers in the early days of US history who wanted to paint a contrast of their emerging modern (Protestant), white nation vs. decadent, misceginated Spanish America. So ironically buying uncritically into Columbus legends is in some sense buying into anti-Lat.Am. bias.

"I have also pointed out that the Indians of the New World were just as Evil as their European counterparts if not more."

Of course evil is relative but the Indians in question, the Tainos, were among, according to all contemporary accounts that I have read, the most docile people ever encountered by Europeans during their age of exploration.

Very interesting article. I was a little dismayed that I could not find another article on this subject but oh well. I'm assuming that this work is somehow tied into the work of Dr. Martinez Cruzado who had conducted a similiar study in Puerto Rico several years ago, in fact the one cited by the article. The figures reached for mitochondrial taino ancestry in DR, 18%, was very interesting indeed. The study in Puerto Rico came to a figure of near 60% for that island and a similiar study in Argentina, long considered a "white" country came up with something like 55% Amerindian DNA via the maternal line, or mitochondrial DNA. I thought similiar figures would be found in DR. Why? Because I figured that the majority, but not all, of our African DNA came by way of the Haitian soldiery which would not have affected mitochondrial DNA in any shape or form. It's difficult to draw other conclusions as the study didn't indicate what percentage of the Dominican's population mitochondrial DNA was from either Europe or from Africa but this study will definitely upset the accepted paradigm of Dominican ancestry for many and hopefully help further shed some light on our people's history once all the facts can be ascertained.

http://www.mikhaela.net/2002/10/on-whole-columbusgenocidesmallpoxholid.html

Now show me proof that Columbus did distribute SmallPox infected Blankets.